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[8D]And do you know what else is wrong???
Where are the kits??? I know that they went
the way of "ARF MANIA", but gee whiz, there
are still a lot of us out there who want our kits
back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jerry there sadly are very few of us out there I have an Ace hobbies Fred Reese Biplane am trying to get started on When you look at the Ads on the electrics "its out of the box and fly in 20 minutes" and now we have ARFS no glue required, So little demand sadly. The time I have spent reduing an ARF could have built a kit martin

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Technically, rockets and electrics are motors. They are considered "reaction devices". I wish I could remember the complete engineering definition that I used to know from the Fifties. I've been trying to remember it for years. It was obvious, the way that it was stated. Then Duke Fox comes along and calls his engines motors. On top of that, the automobile repair manuals obtained the name Motor Manuals. That further clouded the issue to the point that the two terms are used interchangably.

Kind of like the word "volatile". Volatile relates to how easily a liquid substance evaporates. It has nothing to do with explosivity, in a direct sense.

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Right you are, but we all know that liquids must evaporate under pressure in order to "explode."

Also, when you buy model rocket "motors," the package names them model rocket engines--at least last time I bought them that's what was on the estes label....

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Before we get too pedantic on engine vs motor, I suggest you consult your dictionary. You will be appalled at the degeneration of western civilization. Also, you should not own or use an IC motorcycle, motorhome, or motorboat; not if you want to keep the faith. :eek:

I understand there is a device on the market which will give your electric an IC sound. It seems like there is a market for a device which will also dump a couple of ounces of hot castor oil over your electric airplane. :D

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Some how though it does not sound right getting on my "engine" cycle "engineing" through "engine" city to where my "engine" boat is docked etc.. :D

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The word "engine" is another name for a machine or an apparatus. Cotton gin is a shortened version of cotton engine. Engine lathes are used to make machine parts. Ancient Roman warriors used siege engines to attack fortified positions. We find stuff on the web by using a search engine. Heat engines convert heat into mechanical work. Calling an electric motor an electric engine may not be common usage but there really is nothing wrong with it either.

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That would depend upon whether you are using the vernacular of the common man, or of the professional. (wink)

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Get outta here. The dictionary is written by a liberal arts major. What does he know about engineering.

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Engine, Motor, Mill, Powerplant, Lump, Squirrel Cage, whatever you call them, there's nothing like spraying castor all over
your covering...

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Hey guys...in spanish the word motor is used no matter if it is an internal combustion one or electric...
No point on discussing it...becouse motor comes from a machine that produces motion of any kind, and engine is more related to the heat processes... anyway, both are machines that produce rotational movement..the thing is...BETTER THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION engine or motor...call it as you want...
I think that I'll try an electric motor the day that comes one that can produce 1.65HP spinning an 11x6 propeller and that i can recharge the batteries in 5 minutes...but not for now..!!:D

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elctric is for the rx not the prop

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ill switch when theres more power to my wheels lighter weight longer run times louder sound a little smoke and when i can recharge the battery faster than i can fill tha tank

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Hmm. I always considered the Harly Davidson MOTORcycle engineers as profesional... Live and learn I guess.. :D:D

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OK now, my love of the internal combustion engine/motor has nothing to do with semantics, definitions or vernacular, it has to do with marvel of all the moving parts operating together to make it work, and the resultant power output. They look good , sound good and work good. Think about it, a little tiny micro-machined device that actually operates perfectly and puts out a lot of power for it's size. The very fact that it is miniaturized and works as well as it does and is as inexpensive as it is, is a marvel, expecially considering that they have been around for a good number of years. What's not to like?

Regards,
doubledee

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Or....... Mouse; Rat; Elephant; Nailhead; Flathead; L-head............. :)

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Not to mention knucklehead, shovelhead & all the other Harley-heads.[8D]

jess

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Inline fours, 6's, 8's. Radials. V-6's, V-8', V 12's. Flat fours, sixes. Single and Overhead cams. Did anyone mention F heads?

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Don't forget rotaries.

Personally, I've always been fascinated by all things automotive - that is, devices that are self-propelled. Whether the propellant is electricity or chemitry, to me, is besides the point.

Sounds like far too many of you have selective memory. You only remember the good parts and promptly forget the bad. You say you love the smell of castor, I say most of what you smell is not castor but burnt nitro, in the form of various nitrous oxides and nitric acid - great stuff of one's lung, aint it? Gas engine fumes? Even worse. I too love to run my loud and obnoxious IC reciprocating engines, whether it is bolted to an airplane model or to a sawhorse. I, however, have my ear muffs on and I stand upwind.

You say you love the feel of oil on your hands? Really?? I thought a lot of modelers are going gasoline precise because they get tired of the slime and grime of glow puffers. Remember now, you skin is very quick to absorb whatever chemicals that are placed on it. That's why nicotine or birth-control patches work so well. It is also why I don't touch used motor oil any more, which is full or nasty carcinogens. I wear latex gloves when I change motor oil. I avoid contact with gasoline too. Another bucket full of carcinogens. Nitromethane? I don't mind it running through my glow engines, but not in my veins.

Hey, somebody's got be the contrarian.;)

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Nope, FAI fuel smells much the same,

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Hmm. Remember Vane (or was it Bane?) in the Movie Batman and Robin? He wore a suit with some sort of chemical which made him strong. Poision Ivy would hit a button which gave him an extra shot and he would wreck havoc. LOL Batman or Robin tore loose the hose and he shrank into a thin wimp. Well that's what nitro does for engines.

If it did the same for humans people would be shooting it up. But, it is relatively harmless for humans. Gasoline is worse, and the methanol worse yet. However, you are being parinoid with the gloves, unless you have some extreme alergies, or cancer that is.

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I'll take your word that nitromethane is relatively harmless. I do know folks used to (still do?) take nitroglycerin as heart medicine. Still, I don't know if nitromethane stays nitromethane inside the human body, or if it reacts to form something else nasty. I don't particularly want to find out.

I will say this though: I spilled a few drips of 20% nitro car fuel on my dinner table a while back, and it ate the varnish in a matter of seconds. The exhaust fumes from the same 20% car fuel also stings my eyes when I have trouble getting a nitro car started. If it ain't nitric acid, it is something else not very kind to my eyeballs.

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It's not the nitro that gives these engines that smell, it's the castor oil. Nitro burning dragsters don't smell like that. Gasoline burning motocross motorcycles do smell like that when they use castor oil as a lubricant.

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Nitromethane was first commercially sold in large quantities to clean printing presses. It was used as a solvent to remove excess ink.

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If you walk through the exhaust cloud from your engine and your nose hair falls out and your eyes burn like hell, you are approaching the right level of nitro in your fuel.