Moki Vs. Mark
 

I've got two Moki's and am sold on them. I've got a friend looking for a 2.10. Chief hasn't got them anymore. The only thing I can find (short of used Moki's) is Mark's any of you guys know anything about them? Morris Hobbies handles them but I can't seem to get any info about them.

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same engine different name same factory i have one with 6 gallons thru it and i might sell it if interested i would take 250.00 for it

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Mark is exactly the same product as Moki, just relabeled to get around hassles with distribution agreements. I have a Mark 2.10 NIB with backplate mount if anyone is interested. I find I prefer the 1.80 size, but nothing wrong with the 2.10. Would sell mine or swap even for a NIB 1.80.

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Don't take this wrong but 2 replies and both want to part with the Marks. Makes me wonder about them.

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Wanting to swap for same product different size indicates satisfaction with the product, not dissatisfaction. In this displacement range, there's nothing in the way of glow engines that beats a Moki/Mark for performance and value. I say that even as a fan of MVVS, which is another great line of engines. For quarter scale glow power, Moki/Mark is the way to go. Lots of Moki fans in southern NH.

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Thats what I was looking for someone who was happy with them. As a Moki owner I am very happy with both mine. My concern was over the Mark brand. After all the O.S. clone garbage around today it pays to do your homework. If I had a 1.80 laying around I would take you up on your offer. Thanks Mike

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How is the fuel consumption on a 180 or 210?

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Not what you would think. They are pretty frugal when it comes to fuel. I've got the 1.80 in the G.P Eagle and the 2.10 in the GP Wagstaff both with stock tanks. I've never measured flight time but I will say that I get tired of flying before fuel bec0mes a issue.

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Fuel consumption using Morgan FAI fuel (0% nitro) and Cline regulator is not far from gas believe it or not. With my Moki 1.80 I get 11 minute flights with a 16 oz tank and just under half is left. With the 2.10 the results are the same. I just wish I didn't put 20 oz tank in it. It's too big. It almost seems like the 1.80 has more power. The vertical on a 14 pound CAP with the 1.80 is way better than the 15 pound Edge with the 2.10. Maybe that's why people want the 1.80.

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Shucks Joe, you're giving away our secret! Actually, the difference in power is not much, tho I have to believe the 2.10 has the advantage. But power/weight, the lighter 1.80 has the advantage. For flying aerobatics where strong vertical performance is desired, I prefer the 1.80, since the model will be "overpowered" anyway. For warbirds and quarter scale in general, I think the 2.10 is preferable, since these planes typically are not overpowered, and a little more weight is a minor consideration for them.

As to fuel consumption, I also like a 16 oz tank, fly a double round of IMAC Basic and have plenty of fuel left (1/4--1/3 tank) when I land. Running in a new engine with rich needle setting, they slurp up a tankful pretty quick; but as they get broken in and tuned right, running time and fuel tank size ceases to be a concern. A gallon will take me through a two-day weekend, 4-5 flights each day.

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don't get it wrong i love the power i just went to all gassers and mine is a moki not mark,the engine runs great and will fly allday long

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Not giving up my glow anytime soon and I am into gassers. I can throw a 40 size profile in my trunk in one piece. It just doesn't get any simpler. Cleaning the oil off is pretty easy. And who needs ski's. Just plop it down in snow, fuel it up again and hand launch it. Dork it in and CA it back togther. Gotta love it.

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Anybody have the Moki/Mark .135? If so, what do you think of it? Will it go in a "60" size airplane? thx Jim

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A 1.35? No way jose. Too much engine. That engines's for a 90-120 sized plane.

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I'm thinking of a "60" sized airplane that will take the .60-.90 series of engines with similar dimensions. thx Jim

PS: The plane would weigh seven to eight pounds.

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I'd try the OS 120AX or Saito 125. The Moki is simply a lot of power and weight on a 60 size plane. Even on a 90 size plane the Moki is a lot. It's more of a 120 size engine. 90 minimum. For example put a Moki 1.35 on a Funtana 90 or a Showtime and you'd have a good setup. Still with a ton more power than you need, but it would work.

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RcMiket, I have one Moki 2.10, two Mark 2.10 and one Moki 1.8. They're all from the same Hungarian manufacturer as stated above. Great engines all of them - just do your research regarding fuel and set-up.

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Thanks I run the recomend fuel in both my Moki's haven't had a bit of trouble. I glad to hear the Mark's are from the same source as the Moki's.

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Not just the same source, but indistinguishable if you hold one of each in your hands--except for the logo on the crankcase.

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Actually the Marks have been improved over the Mokis with the addition of the low speed dial detent. Should hold a low speed needle setting much more reliably. Sure beats the old trick of using a drop of CA so the low speed dial didn't rotate with vibration.

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There was a thread here, about a year ago, discussing this same engine, made for Dave Patrick Models (under the DPM nameplate), with a lower C/R, to entertain the North American lust for nitro...

Sickening... The standard Moki/Mark engines run perfectly and very economically, on cheap, 20/80 (FAI) fuel.

Why spoil this attribute with expensive nitro???

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Where can you buy them? No one in the US has them any more. I would love to have another 2.10

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Husker, if you go up to post #2 & #3 at the top of this thread, there are two available, one used, one NIB.

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What prop size is optimum for a Moki/Mark 1.80 on an aerobat, such as a 77" Extra, Yak, etc.? NOT interested in prop-hanging, flip-flopping, etc.

Basically, I'm stuck with "tweeners" for now. A tweener is a model that is between gas size and big glow size. I have a BME 50 gas engine, but I must run it on white gas and not having too much luck with that; it might be the fuel, might be me- just dunno. Also, its really too much engine for these "tweeners".

Hence the interest in a 1.8 glow engine. I tried an OS 1.60; it was marginal on this size airplane.

I'll repeat husker's question; what vendors are selling these Moki/Mark engines nowadays?

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1.80 takes a good wood prop 18x8--18x10 Menz, Bambula, or Mejzlik 19x8 if you can find them. I don't know anyone in the US carrying stock Mokis except the Dave Patrick versions, which are modded for nitro. Supposedly Just Engines is not permitted to ship them to the US. Don't know about other European or Asian dealers. Chief Aircraft used to list them, but don't see them on that website.

I'm not a major fan of DPM, but I am of the engine. When I say 'the engine,' I have no experience with the DPM nitro-burning product, but knowing Moki I would not hesitate to give it a whirl. Original FAI fuel Mokis come up on RCU marketplace from time to time. I got a 1.80 here which has treated me well, though it did need some cleaning up.