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It does appear the avoidance attempt did eventually cause the fatal result, but I guess the NTSB and FAA reports should be scrutinized...

After all, they could see some things this video did not show so clearly.

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http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...7FA243A&akey=1

RE: Engine Torque Problem
 

The info added by this report is the fact that the rear plane's prop also stroke the fuselage of the front plane behind the cockpit...

And that there might have been turbulent air there, from the BearCat that landed previously...


...And that P-51A was not an original WWII Mustang, but an amateur built plane; from the original plans...


So, what had happened? This happened (showing the video)!

RE: Engine Torque Problem
 

Dar,
That was a F7F Tiger Cat "Twin Engine". I am still thinking that the plane was mortally wounded, and was doomed from the collision. It is hard to find anything as far as the specifics of crash's that happen at Oshkosh. I live real real close, and things that happen there seam to be brushed under the rug pretty good. I don't think you will ever hear anymore than what was posted as far as the exact cause. The two pilots involved had never flown in a program like this before, and it seams there was alot of miscomunication between the pilots as to what there intents where after there performance was done. The EAA SAYS IT WAS UP TO THE PILOTS, AND THAT IT WAS FIGURED OUT BEFORE THE PERFORMANCE IN THERE PILOT BREIFING.:eek: It appears as if the EAA passed the buck onto the pilots, and not the many airtraffic controller's that are there during the convention. It also happened to be the day my daughter wanted to come along, and then this happened and the rest of the show was cancelled.

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Oooops!

My bad...
I meant to type 'TigerCat'...

...The BearCat is the single-engine F8F, which has a much smaller 'lingering turbulence footprint'...

RE: Engine Torque Problem
 

I really appreciate the additional information you have given us, Iflyglow.
I have read the report and I have watched the video several times.
I agree with you, something seems to be missing in the puzzle.

There were so many people watching both planes coming for landing, including organizers and tower controllers, and nobody communicated or signaled any alert.
Specially when no tandem landing was scheduled.

The pilot of the rear plane was much more experienced than the pilot of the front plane.
Simply, he was certain that he was landing alone, he announced the landing, and nobody told or signed him what was going on.

The report states that the pilot of the front plane took a shortcut in approach and that his canopy was open and noisy enough as to prevent him from listenning the anounce for landing of the rear pilot.

I imagine it was something traumatic for your daughter to witness.
All very sad.

Beck's short biography:

http://www.ndac.aero/images/beck.pdf

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Last year was the first year since 07 that She wanted to go, and it mainly was for the A380, but did not want to stay for the entire show.:eek: Thats ok since I am there most of the days anyhow. She has never said anything since, but I am sure that sticks in her mind.
I myself have been there many different times over the years when acciedents happen, and they never really anounce anything, and all you will see is a little article in the local paper, and then nothing after that.
Even Patty Wagstaff's drunken driving episode down the runway a few years ago didn't make the paper much:D, other than here trying to fight it in the court system a year later.;) I was there several years ago, when a Jet crashed in a subdivision, and they did not announce anything. You could hear the crash, see the smoke and hears sirons, but they did not say a peep over the loud speaker.
This would not be the first Heavy Metal inciedent there, as a Corsair was taking off several years ago, and Clipped Howard Purdues Bear Cat. The Corsair cart wheeled down the runway in a Ball of flame, but they never announced what happened to the pilot. I think He was Burned extremely bad, but I am not sure he ever even lived.