RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

I might need to put a couple of ounces of castor to it then. I wanted some 15% fuel and it was either Omega, Cruel Power or 22% Ritchs Brew.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

That is a shame . I feel Iam very lucky to have access to all the Sig fuel Ican afford. Wal Mart has castor in the pharmacy . I use the Humco brand, no sugar, no additives.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

If you want more power use less oil, there is extra oil for protection on lean runs, but it does rob power. But be prepared for a shorter engine life.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

Why pay that price for drug store castor when you can buy it for about $20 a gallon from Fox?

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

I can do better than that:

Why am I paying $12 a QUART at my LHS when I can get a gallon of it from Fox for $20!!!! Thanks for the heads up!

Man, I need to get better at this interweb thingy....

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

Personally Iseldom have that much use for it and a gallon of castor would sit around a very long time. So instead I grab a $2 bottle when I am picking up chips and salsa,,,,,and beer,,,,,and pizza,,,,,, and rolaids

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

Sig lists castor for 17.24USD per gallon.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

That's a full service pharmacy right there!

I have to agree with jeffie on this one. It would take me years to go through a gallon and it would probably turn to syrup by the time I used the last of it.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

I'm going to have to ask why you said that.

I have a quart of Morgan's castor. I add about 2 oz to a gallon of Omega 15. It costs something like $7.99.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

You must have a catalog. The current price for a gallon of Sig Castor #SIGCO003 is $22.99 straight from the website.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

No, I looked at the website. I just checked again and prices are different. It must have let me in to the dealer side of the site this morning.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

Spinnerrow,
My .60 NX is holding up just fine. I have not had any problems whatsoever with it. I would not be concerned about the Rod at all, unless you try to spin it 17-18 thou. The engine makes awesome power in the 15,000 bracket where it performs like a mule.:D

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

thought I would check it again. It still has the higher price


<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" width="600"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="20%" rowspan="2">http://www.sigmfg.com/images/yy1SIGCO001.jpg</td> <td align="center"><font color="#ae0000" size="4" face="Arial">Baker's Grade AA Castor Oil
The Number 1
Lubricating Oil for blending Glow Fuel</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Arial"> Over the years, CASTOR OIL has proven to be one of the most effective lubricants for glow model airplane engines. Castor Oil lubricates and protects your engines over a wide range of operating conditions, including the extreme high temperatures that an over-lean needle valve setting can cause. Use straight or blend 50-50 with a synthetic oil like KLOTZ KL-200 RACING LUBRICANT.

NOTE: If you are using a brand of fuel that is short on oil, you can add 5 oz. of castor oil to 1 gallon of fuel to raise the fuel's total oil content approx. 3%.</font></td> </tr> </tbody></table><table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" border="0" bgcolor="#20548a" width="605"> <tbody> <tr bgcolor="#efefef"> <td> <form name="order1" action="/cgi-bin/dpsmart.exe/ProductsV6.html?Z+Sig+sptp3799" method="POST"> <font color="#20548a" size="1" face="Verdana"><input type="hidden" name="dp_form" value="order1" /><input type="hidden" name="dp_Search1" value="a41FuelISigCasterOil" /><input type="hidden" name="dp_Search" value="Index" /><font color="#000077" size="1" face="Verdana">Product Code</font></font> </form> </td> <td colspan="2"><font color="#20548a" size="1" face="Verdana">Description</font></td> <td align="center" colspan="2"><font color="#20548a" size="1" face="Verdana">Price</font></td> <td align="center" colspan="2"><font color="#20548a" size="1" face="Verdana">Type Order
Quantity</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana">SIGCO001<input type="hidden" name="dp_prod1" value="SIGCO001" /></font></td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana">SIG AA CASTOR OIL PINT<input type="hidden" name="dp_desc1" value="SIG AA CASTOR OIL PINT" /> </font></td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" align="left" valign="top"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana"> EACH<input type="hidden" name="dp_um1" value="EACH" /></font></td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" align="right" valign="top" colspan="2"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana">$7.99<input type="hidden" name="dp_price1" value="7.99" /></font></td> <td bgcolor="#efefef" valign="top" colspan="2"><input name="dp_qty1" value="" size="4" maxlength="5" style="color: black; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica; font-size: 8pt;" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana">SIGCO002<input type="hidden" name="dp_prod2" value="SIGCO002" /></font></td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana">SIG AA CASTOR OIL QUART<input type="hidden" name="dp_desc2" value="SIG AA CASTOR OIL QUART" /> </font></td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" align="left" valign="top"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana"> EACH<input type="hidden" name="dp_um2" value="EACH" /></font></td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" align="right" valign="top" colspan="2"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana">$10.99<input type="hidden" name="dp_price2" value="10.99" /></font></td> <td bgcolor="#efefef" valign="top" colspan="2"><input name="dp_qty2" value="" size="4" maxlength="5" style="color: black; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica; font-size: 8pt;" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana">SIGCO003<input type="hidden" name="dp_prod3" value="SIGCO003" /></font></td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana">SIG AA CASTOR OIL GALLON<input type="hidden" name="dp_desc3" value="SIG AA CASTOR OIL GALLON" /> </font></td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" align="left" valign="top"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana"> EACH<input type="hidden" name="dp_um3" value="EACH" /></font></td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" align="right" valign="top" colspan="2"><font color="#414141" size="1" face="Verdana">$22.99<input type="hidden" name="dp_price3" value="22.99" /></font></td> <td bgcolor="#efefef" valign="top" colspan="2"><input name="dp_qty3" value="" size="4" maxlength="5" style="color: black; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica; font-size: 8pt;" /></td> </tr> </tbody></table>

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

Yes that is the correct pricing. I saw prices for several items and all were a fair percentage below the normal price. The site must have had a glitch that time I checked. It even looked slightly different.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

I have not ordered anything from Sig in probably 40 yrs. The Sig stuff I have came from a dealer.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

Omega is 50% castor, 50% syn.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" width="100%" class="table"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="40%" class="tableheaders">

Blend</p> </td> <td width="20%" class="tableheaders">

Nitro</p> </td> <td width="20%" class="tableheaders">

Castor/Synthetic</p> </td> <td width="20%" class="tableheaders">

Total Oil</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccc99"> <td colspan="4"> <h4>Omega Aero Blends</h4> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td width="40%">

FAI</p> </td> <td width="20%">

0%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

30/70</p> </td> <td width="20%">

17%</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccccc"> <td width="40%">

5%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

5%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

30/70</p> </td> <td width="20%">

17%</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td width="40%">

10%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

10%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

30/70</p> </td> <td width="20%">

17%</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccccc"> <td width="40%" class="bgcolor1">

15%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

15%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

30/70</p> </td> <td width="20%">

17%</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td width="40%">

25%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

25%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

30/70</p> </td> <td width="20%">

17%</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccccc"> <td width="40%">

40%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

40%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

30/70</p> </td> <td width="20%">

17%</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccc99" class="bgcolor1"> <td colspan="4"> <h4>Specialty Fuels</h4> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td width="40%">

4-Stroke (standard)</p> </td> <td width="20%">

15%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

50/50</p> </td> <td width="20%">

17%</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccccc"> <td width="40%">

Heli 15% (standard)</p> </td> <td width="20%">

15%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

2/98</p> </td> <td width="20%">

17%</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td width="40%">

Jet 7%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

7%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

6/12 Multiviscosity</p> </td> <td width="20%">

20%</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccccc"> <td width="40%">

Jet 15%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

15%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

6/12 Multiviscosity</p> </td> <td width="20%">

20%</p> </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td width="40%">

Super-Tiger</p> </td> <td width="20%">

10%</p> </td> <td width="20%">

6/6</p> </td> <td width="20%">

12%</p> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

Yea, its too bad Tower had its little parting of the ways with Sig. It wasnt Sigs fault the Chinese factory wouldnt sent the ARFs they made and the nitro shortage certainly wasnt their fault(again China) and the balsa shortage was because the wind turbines are eating it all up.
They did do a web page update recently.
Iahve friends that work at Sig and they are just a bunch of airplane guys like us that want to make airplane stuff to sell.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

And cargo insulation on ships.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

Just for giggles.

APC 9x9 - 16,400rpm

Omega Aero 15%
94 degrees and 70% humidity

I might try this one on my Strega this weekend but when I ran the 9x10, I had not climb out and since I'm taking off on a grass field, it was a bit of a challenge to get airborne.

My 10x8 was getting 14,700 to 14,800 today as well. With it being so hot, I should probably run a 10x7 to get it more into the sweet spot.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

w8ye
Thank You for posting that Morgans info, Ithink a lot of people mistakenly believe the Omega has 18% not 17% .

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When you are accustomed to Omega and start using Wildcat Premium you will think that Wildcat Premiumdoesn't have as much oil.

The Omega has 17% oil. The Wildcat Premium only has 16% oil. There is difference is the ratio of synthetic to castor.

Wildcat Premium is 80/20 and Omega is 70/30.

With a slightly lean run, the Wildcat Premium will feel rather dry whereas the Omega with more castor oil as well as more total oil will feel like it has more oil



<p align="justify"><span class="style14">PREMIUM Available in 5%, 10%, and 15% nitro's has a fuel for all of your 2-stroke needs. Wildcat Premium contains 16% total oil with a composition of 80% synthetic and 20% degummed racing castor and can be used in all 2-stroke engines that are ABC or AAC ball bearing engines. </span></p><p align="center">http://www.wildcatfuels.com/newsite/...100-prem-1.jpg
</p>
Wildcat has a Premium Extr with 18% oil at the 80/20 ratio that works better in my Four strokes
<p align="justify"><span class="style14">PREMIUM XTRA Available in 10% and 15% nitro's contains 18% total oil with a composition of 80% synthetic and 20% degummed racing castor. The extra 2% oil being for ringed, bushed engines, break-in, and where extra oil is simply wanted or required by warranty.</span></p><p align="center">http://www.wildcatfuels.com/newsite/.../100-premx.jpg</p>

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

LOL! It seems nearly every thread I start eventually boils down to a fuel discussion - no matter what the original topic of the thread was. I wonder if I started a thread in the fuel forum if it would end up talking about a ported Evolution 60NX?

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

There is only one reason Chinese suppliers don't ship.

RE: Porting an ABL/ABC Engine
 

Well Ihappen to know why they didnt and I will keep it to myslef as I promised. it wasnt Sigs fault.