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piston-ring replacement
Hi; I need to replace the piston-ring in one of my engines. I have never done this before, are there any special tools you need or any special procedures to follow? Also with a new ring what is the proper ring gap supposed to be? And is the procedure for a standard ring the same for a dyke's ring? Thanks for any help.
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piston-ring replacement
Work one end of the ring out and very gradually and carefully push it back and up very slightly as you work your way around until it comes off. Reverse the procedure to install. Same deal with the Dykes. Bear in mind that the ring land is an important part of the seal and if ideally the piston should be replace along with the ring. Less than ideally you might be OK without it if the land is in good condition. I think the end gap should run around .001" Pretty hard to measure it in place.
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piston-ring replacement
I usually break to old ring in two & use the broken edge to clean the piston lands, clean the carbon out at the bottom of the land. Check the ring end gap by putting the new ring in the sleeve & align with bottom of the piston , check gap ,1 to 2 thousands. Most Dykes rings are pinned so they don't rotate & catch the ring end in a port , don't put the pin anywhere but at gap or you will break the ring when you put piston in sleeve. I clean the sleeve & piston with the finest Scotch -Brite . Wash the whole works with hot soapy water & spray with carb cleaner. I have always used medical castor oil when I assemble an engine . MAX H.
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piston-ring replacement
Yeah Max, I don't recall any two stroke not being pinned even with a plain ring but that would just be the ones I had apart of course. Even the plain end could hook a port. No sweat like that with the four strokes.
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piston-ring replacement
Most ringed Schneurle engines have pinned rings because the ports are so large although I just had a look at my OS 40SR which uses an unpinned Dykes ring but the exhaust port has a bridge in the centre. All the earlier cross flow engines had bridged ports so they didn't need pins either. In some ways this is a better system because then the ring can rotate and wear perfectly round.
Rings should always be removed and fitted in a spiral because this gives the least amount of flex and strain (especially important with a Dykes ring). Lift one end out just far enough so it can rest on the piston crown then very slowly work it around out of the groove. As it comes out the free end will slowly move across the crown. Installation is the reverse by twisting the new ring slightly until one end will just fit in the groove then work the rest in carefully. If I remember correctly the proper end gap is about .0015" to .002" per inch of bore diameter. And while we're on the subject, does anyone have Frank Bowman's details? I lost them in a recent hard disc crash :( |
piston-ring replacement
And while we're on the subject, does anyone have Frank Bowman's details? I lost them in a recent hard disc crash :( Frank bowman 1211 N. allen Farmington, New Mexico 87401-3568 (505) 327-0696 Also: http://www.dol.net/~dave.reed/otto.html |
Dykes rings
OK guys, I pulled the head off of my Webra .50 the other day to make certain it had a dykes ring because some were talking about it in another thread. The ring gap is in the center of the back intake port, should I move it?
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Re: Dykes rings
Originally posted by hobbsy OK guys, I pulled the head off of my Webra .50 the other day to make certain it had a dykes ring because some were talking about it in another thread. The ring gap is in the center of the back intake port, should I move it? |
Rings
It is at the very top of the piston, I have never removed it, the engine runs well so I'll just leave it be. I might call Paul at Paul's model supply and run it by him though.
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piston-ring replacement
Hi Dave. With a case brain drift I forgot the whole point was that you wanted to replace the ring. Anyway if you decide you need to you have the info. Did anyone mention to make sure the rod is put back in facing the same way? There is generally a chamfer in the front of the big hole to accommodate a radius on the pin. Is the power down on your engine?
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Woops
Sorry John my .50 is brand new, I just broke it in, when I saw the discussion I decided to see if I had an ABN or a Dykes ring equipped engine. It was then that I noticed the ring ends were in the center of the rear intake port. The engine runs great. As my old Italian neighbor that I grew up beside would say, I mak-a you veddy confuse, so sorry. I learned a lot about oil well pump engines when I was quite young from those old guys.
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Re: Woops
Originally posted by hobbsy Sorry John my .50 is brand new, I just broke it in, when I saw the discussion I decided to see if I had an ABN or a Dykes ring equipped engine. It was then that I noticed the ring ends were in the center of the rear intake port. The engine runs great. As my old Italian neighbor that I grew up beside would say, I mak-a you veddy confuse, so sorry. I learned a lot about oil well pump engines when I was quite young from those old guys. |
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