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Hi,
Thank you for your info Socrates (Thalis69). I have already know about the Junior-100 plan witch is in outerzone site, but unfortunately this is not what i am looking for. This one is the first junior with removable main landing gear. I am looking for the latest version with fixed landing gear assembly witch have some fuselage frame improvements too.
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Spiros
PS Kales giortes eyxomai me ygeia!!
Thank you for your info Socrates (Thalis69). I have already know about the Junior-100 plan witch is in outerzone site, but unfortunately this is not what i am looking for. This one is the first junior with removable main landing gear. I am looking for the latest version with fixed landing gear assembly witch have some fuselage frame improvements too.
Regards,
Spiros
PS Kales giortes eyxomai me ygeia!!
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Hi Spiros,
By comparing the plane's characteristics that appear on Outerzone's plan with the one that is in the catalogue I have,there are a couple of differences.
The wingspan is the same-1120mm ,but the length and wing area are different.The outerzone's version has 820mm length and 22dm².
In the catalogue that I have, the plane appear with 810mm and 21dm²..The weight limits are also appear different.Practically,the plane must be the same.
I think that I have the newer version in stock.If you are interested,just let me know.
Regards,
Socrates
By comparing the plane's characteristics that appear on Outerzone's plan with the one that is in the catalogue I have,there are a couple of differences.
The wingspan is the same-1120mm ,but the length and wing area are different.The outerzone's version has 820mm length and 22dm².
In the catalogue that I have, the plane appear with 810mm and 21dm²..The weight limits are also appear different.Practically,the plane must be the same.
I think that I have the newer version in stock.If you are interested,just let me know.
Regards,
Socrates
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Hi to all fellow modellers,
I hope everyone in ok and this season finds you well in your labs with new builds and constructions.
As far as I can follow any thread or quote about Pilot kits,I can say that still there are many planes that are constructed and flying around the world.
There are a few more pictures to upload and finish the kits that are included in the catalogues I have.What is really happened though,is that
due to a change in RCU page format, the list with all the kits and main characteristics that I have written is ruined.I have to re-write it and upload it for future reference.
That is all for now.
Have a nice winter with a lot of balsa dust and glue smells.
Socrates
I hope everyone in ok and this season finds you well in your labs with new builds and constructions.
As far as I can follow any thread or quote about Pilot kits,I can say that still there are many planes that are constructed and flying around the world.
There are a few more pictures to upload and finish the kits that are included in the catalogues I have.What is really happened though,is that
due to a change in RCU page format, the list with all the kits and main characteristics that I have written is ruined.I have to re-write it and upload it for future reference.
That is all for now.
Have a nice winter with a lot of balsa dust and glue smells.
Socrates
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Hi Socrates,
Everything is just like you say. The junior 100 was my first plane when I started dealing with the hobby. And because it's ruined at some point, I want to rebuild it from scratch. Unfortunately I have lost the original plans for this and I am looking for them now. It was the second edition or the European version as many say. Anyway, thank you very much. I will let you know.
Regards,
Spiros
Everything is just like you say. The junior 100 was my first plane when I started dealing with the hobby. And because it's ruined at some point, I want to rebuild it from scratch. Unfortunately I have lost the original plans for this and I am looking for them now. It was the second edition or the European version as many say. Anyway, thank you very much. I will let you know.
Regards,
Spiros
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Thanks Les, at least I know where I/we all stand. Question now is I wonder if they will hold a trademark/copyright etc etc on the original stuff. If we replicate and reproduce, developing a full set of templates for each kit that we can send to the kit cutters or even start selling the whole kit including the Fibreglass Specialties cowl etc. Its not a ticket to financial mecca but for those left who thrive on Balsa dust, maybe there will be some demand.
A local hobby supplier really ticked me off the other day telling me that I am wasting his time even talking about scratch building. I just wanted some good quality ply. Apparently nobody does that anymore. The new ARF's are lighter, can do 3D better and if damaged you just get a new wing or tail etc. He said its an expensive hobby and if you cant afford it dont get involved. Pretty much ushered me out of the shop. I was nearly beaten with a stick when I suggested I was going to build a plane and use a converted weed whacker motor because that's what I have and can afford at the moment. Interesting he was the China Pilot ARF dealer.
I guess I am probably whipping a dead horse, but while I and other people out there are interested in building kits, I will pursue the revival of the much applauded OK/Pilot kits. Starting with the 1/4 Decathlon, then maybe the 1/3.5 Pitts since I can get my hands on a built one and reverse engineer it. its very early days yet.
Greig
A local hobby supplier really ticked me off the other day telling me that I am wasting his time even talking about scratch building. I just wanted some good quality ply. Apparently nobody does that anymore. The new ARF's are lighter, can do 3D better and if damaged you just get a new wing or tail etc. He said its an expensive hobby and if you cant afford it dont get involved. Pretty much ushered me out of the shop. I was nearly beaten with a stick when I suggested I was going to build a plane and use a converted weed whacker motor because that's what I have and can afford at the moment. Interesting he was the China Pilot ARF dealer.
I guess I am probably whipping a dead horse, but while I and other people out there are interested in building kits, I will pursue the revival of the much applauded OK/Pilot kits. Starting with the 1/4 Decathlon, then maybe the 1/3.5 Pitts since I can get my hands on a built one and reverse engineer it. its very early days yet.
Greig
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"I have a TOMMY, partly built(fuse only), that is waiting for completion.
Divine Wind is the hardest kit to find and when it appears,it is sold at high prices.I suppose the flying qualities must be very good.Harlequin is also a wonderfull bird.
I believe that many would love to share their experiences with these gliders.
Regards,
Socrates[/QUOTE]"
Tommy was my first ever RC plane and I have very fond memories of it. In fact, I'm restoring that very bird after 35 or so year after it snapped the wing on a high start.
As for hardest Pilot glider kit to source, how about Flying Feather? You cannot find even a photo not to speak of a kit or plan.
Cheers Andreas
Divine Wind is the hardest kit to find and when it appears,it is sold at high prices.I suppose the flying qualities must be very good.Harlequin is also a wonderfull bird.
I believe that many would love to share their experiences with these gliders.
Regards,
Socrates[/QUOTE]"
Tommy was my first ever RC plane and I have very fond memories of it. In fact, I'm restoring that very bird after 35 or so year after it snapped the wing on a high start.
As for hardest Pilot glider kit to source, how about Flying Feather? You cannot find even a photo not to speak of a kit or plan.
Cheers Andreas
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Hi Andreas and fellow modelers.
Thank you for your post.TOMMY is finished during the quarantine we had here in Greece between March and April.
I even flew it once just to check the CG and flying characteristics.


You are right about Flying Feather.I have never heard of this kit mentioned by anyone,anywhere before,but you.
I had a feeling,though,that I had seen this name once.After checking a few RCM old magazines I found what I actually remembered.
It was in a Hobby Shack advert in March 1977 issue!

I even found many other kits,gliders and ARFs from the series that Doug(W.E. Fan) had mentioned before.
Andreas,you made me start a new survey!
I know that I am outdated with my postings.I have started writing the PIlot kit list again and plan to keep it shorter(name-engine-wingspan).
I have aquired two more old catalogs with a few more kits in the list.But what really astonished me was the number of kits I found in old rc magazines,especially RCM.
Before closing this post,I would like you to check a Pilot Piper Cub-20 build video series on YouTube by Mark Robinson.The plane is made from plans and I must say
that the videos are very interesting for all aspects of construction.
Thank you for your time.
Socrates
Thank you for your post.TOMMY is finished during the quarantine we had here in Greece between March and April.
I even flew it once just to check the CG and flying characteristics.


You are right about Flying Feather.I have never heard of this kit mentioned by anyone,anywhere before,but you.
I had a feeling,though,that I had seen this name once.After checking a few RCM old magazines I found what I actually remembered.
It was in a Hobby Shack advert in March 1977 issue!

I even found many other kits,gliders and ARFs from the series that Doug(W.E. Fan) had mentioned before.
Andreas,you made me start a new survey!
I know that I am outdated with my postings.I have started writing the PIlot kit list again and plan to keep it shorter(name-engine-wingspan).
I have aquired two more old catalogs with a few more kits in the list.But what really astonished me was the number of kits I found in old rc magazines,especially RCM.
Before closing this post,I would like you to check a Pilot Piper Cub-20 build video series on YouTube by Mark Robinson.The plane is made from plans and I must say
that the videos are very interesting for all aspects of construction.
Thank you for your time.
Socrates
#235

Hello guys,
After along period of inactivity time came to start a new Pilot project.
Therefore I started working on something that never saw in my hometown air neither elsewhere from the places I flew all these years
Shooting_Star_40
After some time of work on my computer my best friend came and challenged me !
QB20L !!!!!!!!!!!!
So it happened, I left aside the SS40 and started working on the plan of QB20L II, this is what I found searching the net, but NO 20L.
On a visit to another friend's workshop and talking about it he got obsessed of the idea and unexpectedly he brought me the KIT of the first version what exactly I was looking for !!!
Therefore I have worked the last week and managed to copy in my cad software the plans in order to laser cut the frames and the airfoils.








After along period of inactivity time came to start a new Pilot project.
Therefore I started working on something that never saw in my hometown air neither elsewhere from the places I flew all these years
Shooting_Star_40
After some time of work on my computer my best friend came and challenged me !
QB20L !!!!!!!!!!!!
So it happened, I left aside the SS40 and started working on the plan of QB20L II, this is what I found searching the net, but NO 20L.
On a visit to another friend's workshop and talking about it he got obsessed of the idea and unexpectedly he brought me the KIT of the first version what exactly I was looking for !!!
Therefore I have worked the last week and managed to copy in my cad software the plans in order to laser cut the frames and the airfoils.








#236


Hello everyone!! Writing you from very fra south, Trevelin, Patagonia.
Also a bit fan of Pilot kits. At This moment just finishing a Bocker Jungmeister. Others already finished, and others still in the box.
Congrats for your 20L. I think in the near futura maybe I build one also. I have downloaded nearly all the plans for the Pilot kits. But many of them have special cowls or canopies that are nearly imposible for me to duplicaste. If not, I think I would spent the rest of my life building them.
I keep your update anxiously.
Hernan
Also a bit fan of Pilot kits. At This moment just finishing a Bocker Jungmeister. Others already finished, and others still in the box.
Congrats for your 20L. I think in the near futura maybe I build one also. I have downloaded nearly all the plans for the Pilot kits. But many of them have special cowls or canopies that are nearly imposible for me to duplicaste. If not, I think I would spent the rest of my life building them.
I keep your update anxiously.
Hernan
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Ηello to all.
I start my post with a Greek proverb. Better late than never.
This proverbial sign shows the enormous amount of time it took for me to discover you in this thread Pilot Kits.
My name is Ilias and my nick name Hlsat.
I'm from Greece and I'm another fan of the OK Pilot Co Model.
With 4 companies I made my start in the hobby in the distant year of 1973.
Cox and O.S Max engines, Futaba RC System and OK Pilot model Kits.
Regards.
Ilias
I start my post with a Greek proverb. Better late than never.
This proverbial sign shows the enormous amount of time it took for me to discover you in this thread Pilot Kits.
My name is Ilias and my nick name Hlsat.
I'm from Greece and I'm another fan of the OK Pilot Co Model.
With 4 companies I made my start in the hobby in the distant year of 1973.
Cox and O.S Max engines, Futaba RC System and OK Pilot model Kits.
Regards.
Ilias
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Before writing my first post, I read all of your posts and downloaded all of your photo posts.
Warm thanks to all of you and more to my patriot from the island of Kos Sokratis.
I identified some people with very good knowledge and information about this company because of their love for it.
Socrates and W.E Fun with most of them.
In another short post of mine, I will add mine as well.
Regards.
Ilias
Warm thanks to all of you and more to my patriot from the island of Kos Sokratis.
I identified some people with very good knowledge and information about this company because of their love for it.
Socrates and W.E Fun with most of them.
In another short post of mine, I will add mine as well.
Regards.
Ilias
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You are right about Flying Feather.I have never heard of this kit mentioned by anyone,anywhere before,but you.
I had a feeling,though,that I had seen this name once.After checking a few RCM old magazines I found what I actually remembered.
It was in a Hobby Shack advert in March 1977 issue!
I even found many other kits,gliders and ARFs from the series that Doug(W.E. Fan) had mentioned before.
Andreas,you made me start a new survey!
.
Socrates
Both Tommy and Flying Feather have been rebuilt by now and have also spent a fair amount of time up in the air this summer. However, I'm not able to include photos or a link for some reason.
Cheers Andreas.
I had a feeling,though,that I had seen this name once.After checking a few RCM old magazines I found what I actually remembered.
It was in a Hobby Shack advert in March 1977 issue!
I even found many other kits,gliders and ARFs from the series that Doug(W.E. Fan) had mentioned before.
Andreas,you made me start a new survey!
.
Socrates
Both Tommy and Flying Feather have been rebuilt by now and have also spent a fair amount of time up in the air this summer. However, I'm not able to include photos or a link for some reason.
Cheers Andreas.
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you are right about flying feather.i have never heard of this kit mentioned by anyone,anywhere before,but you.
I had a feeling,though,that i had seen this name once.after checking a few rcm old magazines i found what i actually remembered.
It was in a hobby shack advert in march 1977 issue!
I even found many other kits,gliders and arfs from the series that doug(w.e. Fan) had mentioned before.
Andreas,you made me start a new survey!
.
Socrates
both tommy and flying feather have been rebuilt by now and have also spent a fair amount of time up in the air this summer. However, i'm not able to include photos or a link for some reason.
Cheers andreas.
I had a feeling,though,that i had seen this name once.after checking a few rcm old magazines i found what i actually remembered.
It was in a hobby shack advert in march 1977 issue!
I even found many other kits,gliders and arfs from the series that doug(w.e. Fan) had mentioned before.
Andreas,you made me start a new survey!
.
Socrates
both tommy and flying feather have been rebuilt by now and have also spent a fair amount of time up in the air this summer. However, i'm not able to include photos or a link for some reason.
Cheers andreas.
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My current project is a rebuild of this Pilot 1/3.5 Pits Special. I’m going with a 10S electric power system. The sheeted areas of the fuselage will be glassed, open areas covered with Oratex and then the fuselage will be painted. The wings and tail will be Monokote. Planned color scheme will be of the late Art Scholl Pitts.






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