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here is the latest status. all parts fabricated and ready to start covering. 5 yards of some thin yellow matl from Wal Mart, roll of 3/16 red stripe. have downgraded power to OS 28 4 stroke, stole from a Flying Flea, along with the mini servos. 1 1/2 ponds total, prior to covering. will keep yaall posted. dick
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Dick looks excellent. I'll be looking for your flight report.
I too cut my teeth on aeromodelling when my father brought home a set of those red Popular Mechanics books. After I moved out my parents moved and my mother tossed them. I've kept my eyes open at flea markets to see if I can get the volumes with the modelling articles. I'm so glad someone found this. I've thought for awhile this would be a good candidate for electric and am going to see if I can squeeze this one in this winter.
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I too cut my teeth on aeromodelling when my father brought home a set of those red Popular Mechanics books. After I moved out my parents moved and my mother tossed them. I've kept my eyes open at flea markets to see if I can get the volumes with the modelling articles. I'm so glad someone found this. I've thought for awhile this would be a good candidate for electric and am going to see if I can squeeze this one in this winter.
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Howdy. my 27" dia, plans will be available, once mine flies. right now I am in the process of ripping off all the prior yellow/orange covering. found out - TOO LATE- that the cheap matl was not Nitrate dope compatable, so now using Coverite Yellow, won't be that much heavier and will be stronger. will not be much change in total weight, just a loss of manhours. will keep you posted as it prgresses. dick
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Dick:
Looking good. Great idea to strengthen the hoopskirt by incorporating circular spars beteen the ribs, which wasn't mentioned in the original .O2O engine size plans.
I still have the supplies in storage (microfilm from monokote??) from 1976 to make my third Hoopskirt. I need to get started on that project.
Approximately 10 years ago I spoke directly with Roy Clough Jr. on the phone. He stated he made "lots" of models that were published in many different magazines and he definitely remembers the design of this plane. A very enjoyable gentleman to talk to.
Continue posting your progress. It is most enjoyable to see your progresssion.
Until next time...
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Looking good. Great idea to strengthen the hoopskirt by incorporating circular spars beteen the ribs, which wasn't mentioned in the original .O2O engine size plans.
I still have the supplies in storage (microfilm from monokote??) from 1976 to make my third Hoopskirt. I need to get started on that project.
Approximately 10 years ago I spoke directly with Roy Clough Jr. on the phone. He stated he made "lots" of models that were published in many different magazines and he definitely remembers the design of this plane. A very enjoyable gentleman to talk to.
Continue posting your progress. It is most enjoyable to see your progresssion.
Until next time...
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I've kept my eyes open at flea markets to see if I can get the volumes with the modelling articles. I'm so glad someone found this.
Thanks
I've kept my eyes open at flea markets to see if I can get the volumes with the modelling articles. I'm so glad someone found this.
Thanks
I've recently seen many Roy L. Clough Jr. original model plans removed from the "Do It Yourself" volumes from Popular Mechanics for bid on EBAY. Mine were purchased over a six year period which included yearly volumes during the 70's which ended approximately 1976.
Check there for Waterbug, Hovercraft, Parasol Plate plane, etc, etc, etc.
Hope this helps.
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Didn't see it mentioned in the thread so I will remind you all that Roy is still designing and publishing unusual flying objects, most frequently in the pages of Flying Models.
Anxiously awaiting a flying report Dick---a very ambitious project worthy of a good result. Tom
Anxiously awaiting a flying report Dick---a very ambitious project worthy of a good result. Tom
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howdy. here's today's status. almost ready to put it in Bobbie McCarrols, hands. he's our test pilot. its a little over 3# ready to fly with the OS 28, 4 stroker. have decided to get busy and finish the 1921,Besson H-6 Triplane,seaplane, or maybe the 1917 Debruyere C-1, Canard Pusher or maybethe Russian TB-3, 2 pursuit carrying twin engine bomber, before starting on the Dornier Do L2 Delphin II. no sense in wasting time in between buiding projects. times running out. dick still trying to locate Mr. Clough
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DocBoss...That's about the time my dad bpught the books, early through the mid 70's. I've seen those plans floating around on ebay. I'd like to grab a copy of the plans, but I'd like to find a set of the books for the sentimental value. By coincedence in the mid 80's Popular Mechanics released another set of books. I thought I'd buy those, only thing is they weren't many modelling projects. They look good on the bookshelf though.
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YOWZZA! I skip out on this forum for a month and come back to find THIS thread! Dick, you are my hero! I've been chuckling to myself all the way down through the read of this. I'm really looking forward to hearing about how it flies. Best of luck.
I might just have to try a 24 inch version built up super light for an 049. I truly hope I'm wrong but 3 lbs and 27 inch diameter sounds like it may be too highly loaded. If I try this it'll use elevons at the rear much like a delta wing model for the two controls. And most likely my throttle equipped Medallion.
One question though.... How are you going to tell when it's upside down? Between the top fin and the wheel it's going to look pretty durn close either way....
PS: Just a note that I've never come across a Roy Clough article or pic of a model design of his that did NOT bring a big grin to my face. This guy really knows how to have fun with his modelling.
I might just have to try a 24 inch version built up super light for an 049. I truly hope I'm wrong but 3 lbs and 27 inch diameter sounds like it may be too highly loaded. If I try this it'll use elevons at the rear much like a delta wing model for the two controls. And most likely my throttle equipped Medallion.
One question though.... How are you going to tell when it's upside down? Between the top fin and the wheel it's going to look pretty durn close either way....
PS: Just a note that I've never come across a Roy Clough article or pic of a model design of his that did NOT bring a big grin to my face. This guy really knows how to have fun with his modelling.
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thanks. you never know how any of them will fly, let alone get off the ground. anyhow it will be another addition to the ceiling hangers. my plans will be available for copying as soon as we try to fly it. send me an address. [email protected]
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the Big RED fin on top is different color of the Yellow landing strut. will tell you later if I'm correct, that is if and when it gets in the air. will save my circular wing leading/trailing edge form for you. it was simple, wrap 3/32 sht strips around the form in enough layers to get the thickness required and then shape to size. Remembering that the leading edge is shaped 90 degrees from the flat side. I used yellow glue rather than instant, takes longer but a heck of a lot cheaper. you might look up ROY Clough on the web. listd a lot of his models, but not the HOOP PLANE. sure a lot of them there. dick
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I have come across a couple more interesting articles by Roy Clough Jr.:
b. and just today a came across item # 5905874594, in eBay, for a CL design article from 1947-48, using a 'stressed-paper-skin' construction method that he had developed; far ahead thinking on his part.
I have come across a couple more interesting articles by Roy Clough Jr.:
b. and just today a came across item # 5905874594, in eBay, for a CL design article from 1947-48, using a 'stressed-paper-skin' construction method that he had developed; far ahead thinking on his part.
I suppose modern modellers would want to introduce a few Carbon Fibre reinforcing threads into the layers.
Interesting, cheaper cleaner and less smelly than Glass Reinforced Plastic.
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I do the same thing, using 1/16- 3/32x 1/2 strips wrapped around a foam plug, 1st layer length wise, then next 45 degrees, then next 90, etc. use yellow glue, sure a lot cheaper than CA, sure produces a good strong fuselage. be sure to chop the foam out. also some odd shapes, attached is an original design, by friend in Pa. dick
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Doc Boss hows your HOOP plane coming. mines hanging from the dinning room ceiling waiting for my radio geru to finish up his part. at presnt back on the 14 foot Flying Qaker, installing the dual radio and servo platforms in front and rear, control push rods, etc. finish up landing gear and wheels. gas engine and electric motor, opionaly powered. cover fuselage and go flying., before snow comes. dick
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Dick:
Great to see and read about your progress. Really hope you get a picture of it flying just like Roy did back in the '60's. When I built my second Hoop Skirt in 1976, it was square and straight as below:
However since your recent question, I pulled my 1976 Hoop Skirt from 28 years of storage and just took a picture of it tonight for you to show you what 28 years of storage does to an originally square and straight model:
Notice the oblong shape the hoop has taken along with the warping of the stabilizers and top rudder, in addition to the elevators. Oh well, for the past 28 years, I've always enjoyed remembering the thrill it gave me when she took the maiden flight, slowly climbing while gently rocking and rolling from side to side as she gained altitude. I still have the materials purchased from 1977 to build the third Hoop Skirt. Your endeavor has given me the impetus to consider rebuilding it again, if I could only get some time away from the practice.
Continue on Dick as I anxiously await the results of your maiden flight..
Until next time,
DocBoss
Great to see and read about your progress. Really hope you get a picture of it flying just like Roy did back in the '60's. When I built my second Hoop Skirt in 1976, it was square and straight as below:
However since your recent question, I pulled my 1976 Hoop Skirt from 28 years of storage and just took a picture of it tonight for you to show you what 28 years of storage does to an originally square and straight model:
Notice the oblong shape the hoop has taken along with the warping of the stabilizers and top rudder, in addition to the elevators. Oh well, for the past 28 years, I've always enjoyed remembering the thrill it gave me when she took the maiden flight, slowly climbing while gently rocking and rolling from side to side as she gained altitude. I still have the materials purchased from 1977 to build the third Hoop Skirt. Your endeavor has given me the impetus to consider rebuilding it again, if I could only get some time away from the practice.
Continue on Dick as I anxiously await the results of your maiden flight..
Until next time,
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Hi Everyone;
Greetings from the dry heat of the Valley of the Sun...[Phoenix, AZ], compared to the humid heat I just left behind in Florida. [I now know the difference for sure!]
I just 'eBayed' the whole '55 year of Air Trails magazines, and have gotten a real kick out of leafin' through them, and found 5 more construction articles by Roy Clough Jr. What a guy, and what wild designs he built and published; they are amazing and are as follows:
VENUSIAN SCOUT- in the 3/55 issue; a 1/2 A CL UFO-Flying Saucer type model
SATURNIAN-...................8/55 "; another 1/2 A type of CL UFO Spaceship type
TAN-GIRO.......................9/55 ", an unusual in-line twin gyrocopter, CL .15 size model
TEENIE GENIE................10/55 ", a great looking 1/2A CL Stunt, with a ping pong ball pilot
TEE-JAY.........................12/55 ", a 1/2 A delta type FF model adaptable to CL
Seeing all these models designed and presented in the matter of a few months just boggles my mind, and they are all so different, WOW. But I tell you, that little TEENIE GENIE really stirred my juices, a real cute little CL, reminds me of the old Southwestern Models DIL BOD 1/2A racer kit of so long ago, & yes, I do have a DIL BOD in my collection. I think that little TEENIE GENIE will go just fine with one of my old TD .O51s.....hmmmmm, [remember 1/2 CL guys? from so long ago, it was a riot.....double hmmmmms...]
I hope this above info is of interest to all you fellow Roy Clough Jr. fans, and keeps this thread open and continuing. Best regards to all from sunny and real hot, [+ hurrricane free], Phoenix,
Joe Nagy.
Greetings from the dry heat of the Valley of the Sun...[Phoenix, AZ], compared to the humid heat I just left behind in Florida. [I now know the difference for sure!]
I just 'eBayed' the whole '55 year of Air Trails magazines, and have gotten a real kick out of leafin' through them, and found 5 more construction articles by Roy Clough Jr. What a guy, and what wild designs he built and published; they are amazing and are as follows:
VENUSIAN SCOUT- in the 3/55 issue; a 1/2 A CL UFO-Flying Saucer type model
SATURNIAN-...................8/55 "; another 1/2 A type of CL UFO Spaceship type
TAN-GIRO.......................9/55 ", an unusual in-line twin gyrocopter, CL .15 size model
TEENIE GENIE................10/55 ", a great looking 1/2A CL Stunt, with a ping pong ball pilot
TEE-JAY.........................12/55 ", a 1/2 A delta type FF model adaptable to CL
Seeing all these models designed and presented in the matter of a few months just boggles my mind, and they are all so different, WOW. But I tell you, that little TEENIE GENIE really stirred my juices, a real cute little CL, reminds me of the old Southwestern Models DIL BOD 1/2A racer kit of so long ago, & yes, I do have a DIL BOD in my collection. I think that little TEENIE GENIE will go just fine with one of my old TD .O51s.....hmmmmm, [remember 1/2 CL guys? from so long ago, it was a riot.....double hmmmmms...]
I hope this above info is of interest to all you fellow Roy Clough Jr. fans, and keeps this thread open and continuing. Best regards to all from sunny and real hot, [+ hurrricane free], Phoenix,
Joe Nagy.
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Thanks Joe for the summary of Roy Clough models. was never into control line models, always free flight, rubber and gas till RC came along after my Gold Cup and Unlimited Race boat phaze on the Detroit river and the circut around the country. the missle and space oppertuities changed all of that. now its true scratch build of what odd ball aircraft that I like. fly them once or twice and then they become ceiling hangers, my wife is very proud of our own little museum. whew, I know your not too interested in all of the above, its there. will contiue to build and try to fly the unusual. dick
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I just 'eBayed' the whole '55 year of Air Trails magazines, and have gotten a real kick out of leafin' through them, and found 5 more construction articles by Roy Clough Jr.
I hope this above info is of interest to all you fellow Roy Clough Jr. fans, and keeps this thread open and continuing. Best regards to all from sunny and real hot, [+ hurrricane free], Phoenix,
Joe Nagy.
I just 'eBayed' the whole '55 year of Air Trails magazines, and have gotten a real kick out of leafin' through them, and found 5 more construction articles by Roy Clough Jr.
I hope this above info is of interest to all you fellow Roy Clough Jr. fans, and keeps this thread open and continuing. Best regards to all from sunny and real hot, [+ hurrricane free], Phoenix,
Joe Nagy.
Cheers
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Thanks Joe for posting the information. I'll try to find some of the articles. Sure would be great if Roy Clough published a book with all these models. Thanks again. Until next time...
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I put Roy L Clough Jr into a Google search and found a biography of him. It included detail of the huge number of articles etc he has published, many on models. He seems to still be active, elsewhere I found a mention of small motor electric making from junk.
The biog is found at www.modelaircraft.org/museum/bio/clough/pdf I had to use akrobat to read the pdf.
Thanks Joe for posting the information. I'll try to find some of the articles. Sure would be great if Roy Clough published a book with all these models. Thanks again. Until next time...
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I put Roy L Clough Jr into a Google search and found a biography of him. It included detail of the huge number of articles etc he has published, many on models. He seems to still be active, elsewhere I found a mention of small motor electric making from junk.
The biog is found at www.modelaircraft.org/museum/bio/clough/pdf I had to use akrobat to read the pdf.
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OK now that your reading up on ROY. how many of you are planning to upscale to a Radio Controlled Model. don't tell me I'm the only one around to do it. it ain't hard, just get started being a Scratch plan maker and Builder. dick
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I put Roy L Clough Jr into a Google search and found a biography of him. It included detail of the huge number of articles etc he has published, many on models. He seems to still be active, elsewhere I found a mention of small motor electric making from junk.
The biog is found at www.modelaircraft.org/museum/bio/clough/pdf I had to use akrobat to read the pdf.
I put Roy L Clough Jr into a Google search and found a biography of him. It included detail of the huge number of articles etc he has published, many on models. He seems to still be active, elsewhere I found a mention of small motor electric making from junk.
The biog is found at www.modelaircraft.org/museum/bio/clough/pdf I had to use akrobat to read the pdf.
Old Git:
All I have to say about you finding and posting the aforementioned information is.....
I have been looking for this information since 1970.
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Glad to be of assistance and that I am not only a receiver of help.
I noticed the device your Hoop was standing on. Have you been into RC since Eighteen 70?
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I noticed the device your Hoop was standing on. Have you been into RC since Eighteen 70?
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