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Old 05-22-2005, 08:07 AM
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Covering a Kadet Sr. with some old Royal silk.
What can I use to seal it? Can I use polyurethane?
I'm sticking it down with non-shrinking dope, but I'm about out. Just wondered what alternative methods I can use to seal it (clear).

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I have yet to run across anyone using polyu on silk. I'd spray Brodak clear dope on it, after brushing one or two thins coats.
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Thanks, I did have good results by brushing on a coat of clear non-shrinking dope, then brushing on two coats of some clear "Odds-n-Ends" paint I've used before, fuelproof of course!
I rather like working with silk, too bad it's so expensive now. Next project after this will be back to silkspan. I do have a package of Dave Brown "Skyloft" I'm going to try on something....
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Thai silk. $2.5/yard.

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Have a look at this material, too. Sold under the name Poly-Span, I have heard that it is a common material called dress liner. Can't say that I've gone to a fabric shop to look, yet, though...It has to be handled with some care-mainly being sure you have it right-side-out and have plenty of clear on it before sanding, or it will fuzz up. But the result is worthwhile-looks a lot like silkspan but is tough as nails. I saw a small screwdriver fall out of a shirt pocket and bounce off of the stuff. Shouldn't get brittle like silk or silkspan, either. This seller, Tom Morris , is a wonderful guy. He'll bend over backwards to help you out.

http://www.tomsbuildingservice.biz/p...r%20Tissue.pdf
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I don't think Polyspan is dress lining material - it is something very different. Dress lining material is more like Sig Koverall, which is good but heavier than silk.

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Thanks guys, I'll report back and let you know how it goes.
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O.K. So here's the update- I covered the fuse with the silk using some Sig nitrate dope. I sealed it with a couple of coats of fast drying polyurethane.

I ordered this:http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...edropclrhi.php to use for the wing and plan on using the same poly to finish out the wing.

Photos soon, I promise.
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Oh yeah, I used the standard JR servo for the rudder and elevator, and a Hitec mini for the throttle. I'm using a standard JR for the ailerons. The Rx is an small JR unit that is standard with the Alpha trainer- (R.I.P.)[sm=eek.gif]

I'm hoping for 5- 5 1/2lbs AUW.
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I hope you did not buy by the gallon. The HazMet fees will kill you. It is cheaper to buy 4 quarts.

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Well....I only bought a quart, but I don't know what they are going to tack on for the HazMat fee.....I tried to find it but they only mentioned "an additional charge" for the HazMat fee.[:@]

It was half the price of a quart of Aerothane from Tower.
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I don't remember any HazMet fee until you got to the gallon size, but I am in the same state. Maybe across state lines is different.

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Yeah, I ordered it to be shipped Fex Ex and when I checked the catalog, it stated "40-60 dollars for Haz Mat fee and we don't recommend using Fed Ex".

I cancelled the order, now I'm going to use some alternative method.....I'll keep you posted.
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Default RE: Silk, sealing and finishing...

Dave Brown Skyloft is way heavier than it looks, very difficult to fill, and you can't control the shrinkage--absolutely horrible stuff. I've just tried PolySpan for the first time and it is WAY better. Sig Koverall is very nice to use and very tough (and lighter than Skyloft). I have silk from Thai Silks that looks terrific but I haven't tried putting it on a plane yet. Jim
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Default RE: Silk, sealing and finishing...

I may use the Skyloft over a solid surface on another project.

I have some FabTac here, and just enough clear dope left to do the wing. I'll be sealing it with polyurethane.

I've used Sig Koverall quite a bit in the past, (including the Kadet Sr. I built for my Dad) but I am going with the colored silk on this one.

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