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Thanks missile, for the kind word...warrantee is unfortunately not an option...I bought it off of a friend.

In any case valuable lesson learned...

On a slightly different note, do you lube any of the plastic to plastic parts like the slide block?

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I'm bored, guess I'm going to rebuild my CP tonight.. I'm actually thinking about aluminum for it.. lol

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how do you figure a set of Align 315mm blades would work on the CP? that's the only set I can find..

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Hi delvallejr-

I've been using Tri-Flow on all bearings, ball links and slider. It claims to have petroleum distillates. I know it's supposed to be a no-no on plastic... no problems yet! Haven't noticed any swelling or softness. I had been using either Tri-Flow or Trinity oillite lube on motor bushings. In the process of installing brushless esc's/motors and HH gyro. No more bushings! :D

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Heres my video on youtube. Anyway the video was done on a digi cam and I usually fly about chest high most of the time. But I didnt want to crash in front of you guys so i kept it lower to the floor. Im wandering on purpose to get the feel of the controls. I have my cyclic dumbed up with wheel collars and bcp paddles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ijIfjOKWE

douglas4 :)

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That's over a 60mm change in length from stock Axe to Align blades. You could change pitch with separate Tx... a smaller pinion on the motor would just drop the head speed... a bigger pinion would pull more amps than designed for... install a bigger motor and esc... might need a longer boom... Me thinks you're out of the park on this. Please tell me you posted in the wrong forum.

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Heya douglas4-

Looks like the wheel collar changes are working well for you, congrats! Where are you flying at? Shuffle board floor? Were you flying with the stock NimH pack? If so, you are doing very well!

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Thanks missle. Um its an empty room "1b" 1 floor below the main floor of my building i live in. The only things in there are shopping carts and a give away item table. I move the carts along the wall and the room is mine to play in. it never gets used for anything else. The shuffle board patterns you see are literally the tiles in the floor. Nobody goes down there to play any more. Im lucky every time i go there its always empty. Ya its stock batterys im using till i get the 910 lipos. I usually stay in one place as long as i can but i wanted to move it around so you could see how dumbed up the cyclic was. Im also usually about waste to chest high all the time. I was nervous on camera too. I really didnt feel hovering was that difficult once i had it trimmed and listened to all the advice online. The hard part for me i felt was getting it off the floor with training gear when i first got it. I only had the training gear on for few months. I thought they were actually hindering my learning. once they were off i felt i had more control and feel out of ground affect. the heli seemed more stable and i didnt panic in the air. I felt more in control. I had more crashes with the training gear than without just my observation. I was scared to tip over more and when the gear came off i wasnt scared of a tip over...strange eh...? Now flying in figure 8's and circles and nose in will be the real challenge. I have Trex sa skids on now which are much beefier than the stock ones and the new needle tail boom. So I feel little more confident i wont damage my boom or skids if i hit the floor hard. Next will be the mico heli cnc rotor head and slide bloc and the cnc swash and the rest I will leave plastic and stick with stock blades. Im still thinking about the gws dd tail but not sure yet of that mod.

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Great hovering douglas4! When I see videos like that it makes me think there's something wrong with my axe or with me. After two months I still can't get control of this thing. Granted, with work and honey-do lists every weekend, I'm not getting a great deal of air time, but sheesh!

I'm going to try the collars on the flybar and putting the linkages in the middle hole of the servo arms to see if that makes it any easier. Not ready for the training gear to come off by a longshot though.

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oops, realized that the rear rotor won't turn with the huge blades on it... I put the battle scarred plasti-blades back on..

I was thinking that the weight and extra blade would be too much not only for the motor to spin, but also, that's a lot of extra stress on everything with the added weight and rotating and all... bad idea.. won't work..

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I use LubriPlate all purpose super lubricant (GQ Electronics - but I'm sure I bought it locally) - has Lithium, and I've used it for over 25 years on my servos - I would apply it to the servo gears. Seems to work very well.

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Plus could the tail rotor handle the added torque??

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Thanks, MMatheny for the info.

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So, on the flybar weights. Should I add a couple more to the flybar or just slide the ones that are already on it closer to the paddles?

Thx.

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TO: Helis rule...!

No don't...? Just ad a 1/16" wheel collar on either end of the flybar to the farthest place right next to your paddles. If you move the ones that are there alredy you wont have anything to hold your flybar in place. Those wheel collars hold your flybar in the flybar carrier. You might want to swap the stock paddles for the blade cp paddles which also make a difference they are a little thicker than the stock ones and slightly heavier. My heli's linkages are in there stock position. I didnt move them on the servo arms @ all. I changed the stock servos to hs-55's, balanced....measured and trimmed my heli and tweaked the mixer board and away I went. the video is the result of long hours reading rcgroup posts and the posts on this forum too, and applying what I read to my heli. The bcp paddles, wheel collars and hs-55's helped alot in the cyclic response. Im using the stock batterys in the video. I have yet to get lipos and the 2 cnc bits i want.

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Duh, I completely forgot that the flybar is one piece and held in place by the collars. Maybe I should also check the centering of that too. Thanks for the heads-up.

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I went to move my servo linkages into the center hole last night and discovered the other two holes in the servo arms are smaller than the outside hole. How the heck am I supposed to enlarge that? My smallest drill bit is 1/16" which looks to be too big. What size do I need or what other methods have been deployed?

Thx.

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HelisRule - My opinion, for what it is worth. Don't move the arms in on the servos. I tried it on mine and within days I had them back out. I think the most significant mod is to add the wheel collars to the flybar and position them next to the paddles as Douglas mentioned. One advantage to collars is that as you improve you can start to bring them into the center. Also, and I know this is scarier, if you can hover around waist high for a minute or two and you can hold position without hitting anything, take off the training gear. I had to out of necessity on mine (broken) and I flew it some anyways. Had some close calls, a few crashes and hard landings but I found that when my parts come in and I got my new heli (axe under warranty) up I was sloppier with the gear on. I had planned on using gear when I started the side in orientations but the bird was harder to control. It just seems freerer to manuever and you will (by necessity) learn to increase power to get it back up and then regain control.
It is nerve racking at first but I think you will surprise yourself once you realize that you can fly it without gear. Mind - this is my opinion only - use your own judgement but i do think the collars will be all you need to tame it down. Good luck with your bird.
One other point for any and all esp new pilots. I got a Simulator and it definately increased my ability. I put off for months thinking I could buy another bird for the cost of the Sim. Yep, I got about the cost of a Sim in spare parts to fix my crashes and I do still have a good supply on hand. The funny thing, I haven't needed the spare parts NEARLY as much since I used the sim. It works, get a Sim.
Amen and Hallelujah, pass the plate and crank up the choir - I am through preaching now.

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But your sermon had some sound advice! Jim :D

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To: Helisrule

K94max is right. Once I took my training gear off the, the axe flew better out of ground effect and was more stable. I tried using the training gear again outside and doing other maneuvers inside with them on and I was all over the place. I was scared to tip it over. I took the gear off again and "voila" no more paranoia stable as can be, and ive only had my axe cp 8 months using no sim either just trail and error. I had 4 crashes and im on my second set of blades and havnt crashed since i put them on back in june. Ive replaced all the rotor head parts once and have another set on hand. Once the gear comes off your skills increase and you learn to not over react on the sticks and panic crash so to speak. With the bcp paddles and wheel collars the cyclic is sort of dumbed up and less sensative. Gives you more time to react to the movements of the heli and anticipate the corrective action. The hs-55's deffinite improvement too. Took the slop out of the collective as aposed to the old stock servos. Heres a vid of me practicing and moving the heli in different directions to get the feel of it out of ground effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ijIfjOKWE

I didnt use a sim but I do suggest it. I wish i had but money and computer specs didnt warrent it. I went the hard route but dont regret it though. I can hover with confidence now and land safely with no mishap. Now comes the nose in and curcuit flying. No 3d for this guy it doesnt appeal to me. I like scale flying.

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Ok, I'll leave the servo linkages as is. So what size are the flybar weights? I'd like to try and get them locally so I don't have to pay shipping and wait a week for them.

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quick question i got the 50$ worth of stuff for my rebate option want to get a lipo battery & charger (it has to be greatplanes or electrifly)
should i get the one the manual recomends also the recomended lipo battery is wired in series for balancing do i absolutly have to use a balancer?
910mah 11.1V is recomended can i go bigger or should i go bigger w/stock motor thanks for any help

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TO:Helisrule

The wheel collars are 1/16". You should be able to buy them at your lhs.

TO: landonsmith

You can go with 1320 lipos but i wouldnt go any higher you may burn out your motors earlier or you 3 in 1 board. Depending on what you want to do with your heli. if you want to go 3d then go seperates and the 1320 lipos. If you just want to go scale for learning I would suggest the 910 balanced safe charge lipos by electricfly. Yes a balance charger is a good idea. heres the link to rcgroups discussion about the axe cp. its 310 pages. everything you will need to know about the axe is there. exellent reading.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=610525

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LH2299&P=1

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axe practice time with 910 mah 11.1v ?

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Depends on how quick you crash:D