LSN wont tighten
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LSN wont tighten
Every since I've got my Savage LE I've had nothing but trouble. My LSN wont tighten at all so I can't set it back to the base setting, it just screws in forever and ever and goes in too far it seems without stopping. I tried to take the needle out to see if it was crushed, but it wont come out either. What's going on here? It's making it impossible to tune because I cant set it to LSN to the base setting, it always bogs down when I accelerate at WOT and any attempts at leaning it out just makes it stall.
I'm starting to really hate this hobby and I'm close to getting rid of this truck already. Any help would be appreciated...
I'm starting to really hate this hobby and I'm close to getting rid of this truck already. Any help would be appreciated...
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RE: LSN wont tighten
Since you've already screwed the lsn in so far you will probably have to unscrew it quite a ways to get it out far enough to clear the slide. You'll have to do this before you can reset the lsn.
To reset the lsn you have to do a few things. First you need to back out the idle screw (the angled one on top) so that you can completely close the carb slide. Next, hold the carb slide shut with one hand while gently screwing the lsn in until it bottoms out then back it out the reccomended number of turns. If you don't hold the carb closed then all you do is open the carb slide with the lsn. And finally reset the idle screw until you have a 1.5mm to 2mm opening.
Now, reset the hsn to factory settings and you'll be ready to tune the engine.
When tuning it's very important to make a short high speed run before you start tuning and between every needle adjustment. When tuning the lsn you need to let the truck idle for 5-10 seconds before you do the high speed run.
To tune the engine, start with the hsn. Tune it in 1/8 turn increments until you quit getting performance improvements then back the hsn back out 1/8 turn.
Now tune the lsn by turning the lsn in 1/16 turn increments until you quit getting performance improvements then back it out 1/16 turn.
Finally, adjust the idle needle until the truck will run but not try to move forward.
Tuning can be frustrating but once you learn it's not really all that dificult.
Keep in mind that any hobby has a learning curve. If it were too easy it would not be as much fun and that goes for ANY hobby.
To reset the lsn you have to do a few things. First you need to back out the idle screw (the angled one on top) so that you can completely close the carb slide. Next, hold the carb slide shut with one hand while gently screwing the lsn in until it bottoms out then back it out the reccomended number of turns. If you don't hold the carb closed then all you do is open the carb slide with the lsn. And finally reset the idle screw until you have a 1.5mm to 2mm opening.
Now, reset the hsn to factory settings and you'll be ready to tune the engine.
When tuning it's very important to make a short high speed run before you start tuning and between every needle adjustment. When tuning the lsn you need to let the truck idle for 5-10 seconds before you do the high speed run.
To tune the engine, start with the hsn. Tune it in 1/8 turn increments until you quit getting performance improvements then back the hsn back out 1/8 turn.
Now tune the lsn by turning the lsn in 1/16 turn increments until you quit getting performance improvements then back it out 1/16 turn.
Finally, adjust the idle needle until the truck will run but not try to move forward.
Tuning can be frustrating but once you learn it's not really all that dificult.
Keep in mind that any hobby has a learning curve. If it were too easy it would not be as much fun and that goes for ANY hobby.
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Every since I've got my Savage LE I've had nothing but trouble. My LSN wont tighten at all so I can't set it back to the base setting, it just screws in forever and ever and goes in too far it seems without stopping. I tried to take the needle out to see if it was crushed, but it wont come out either. What's going on here? It's making it impossible to tune because I cant set it to LSN to the base setting, it always bogs down when I accelerate at WOT and any attempts at leaning it out just makes it stall.
I'm starting to really hate this hobby and I'm close to getting rid of this truck already. Any help would be appreciated...
Every since I've got my Savage LE I've had nothing but trouble. My LSN wont tighten at all so I can't set it back to the base setting, it just screws in forever and ever and goes in too far it seems without stopping. I tried to take the needle out to see if it was crushed, but it wont come out either. What's going on here? It's making it impossible to tune because I cant set it to LSN to the base setting, it always bogs down when I accelerate at WOT and any attempts at leaning it out just makes it stall.
I'm starting to really hate this hobby and I'm close to getting rid of this truck already. Any help would be appreciated...
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RE: LSN wont tighten
I backed out the idle screw as far as I thought I should, the carb wont close anymore and it's still about 1/2 a mm open but the idle screw doesn't close the carb any further the screw just starts coming out above flush. I dont have any drill bits so I cant try that method Polar_Bus.
I just cant get it to the base setting, no matter what i do. I tried all of your suggestions, the LSN wont tighten and it wont "bottom out" it just screws in forever and gets a bit tighter to turn but it doesnt bottom out at all. Turning out the LSN 3 turns from this position isnt even close to the base setting and it wont start. It's still way screwed in, so I have no clue how to put it at the base setting because I cant get the LSN to stop going in! I'm just blindly unscrewing it until the truck will start and by the time I get to that stage I have absolutely no clue where it's set at and the truck runs really badly and any adjustments richer/leaner from that point and it just stalls or bogs down and accelerates slowly. I also have air bubbles in the fuel line which wont go away and I don't know why even if I prime it before starting...
It's annoying me, I've never once had good run because of these issues. Simply cannot reset LSN at all... If I get it to start, it smokes alot and either stalls or bogs down and runs slowly off the line and no amount of needle adjustments in either direction make this go away. It either bogs down on accleration or just stalls completely and there's no happy medium between these two.
I just cant get it to the base setting, no matter what i do. I tried all of your suggestions, the LSN wont tighten and it wont "bottom out" it just screws in forever and gets a bit tighter to turn but it doesnt bottom out at all. Turning out the LSN 3 turns from this position isnt even close to the base setting and it wont start. It's still way screwed in, so I have no clue how to put it at the base setting because I cant get the LSN to stop going in! I'm just blindly unscrewing it until the truck will start and by the time I get to that stage I have absolutely no clue where it's set at and the truck runs really badly and any adjustments richer/leaner from that point and it just stalls or bogs down and accelerates slowly. I also have air bubbles in the fuel line which wont go away and I don't know why even if I prime it before starting...
It's annoying me, I've never once had good run because of these issues. Simply cannot reset LSN at all... If I get it to start, it smokes alot and either stalls or bogs down and runs slowly off the line and no amount of needle adjustments in either direction make this go away. It either bogs down on accleration or just stalls completely and there's no happy medium between these two.
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I also can't take the LSN out to check if it's damaged, doesn't come out and won't tighten in all the way... I'm not enjoying this hobby, it's just making me angry.
Just a photo of what the LSN "should" look like at the proper setting would be helpful...
Just a photo of what the LSN "should" look like at the proper setting would be helpful...
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RE: LSN wont tighten
you cant start this hobby and expect all to go well. Things much worse than that will occur as time goes by, tell HPI and they should send a new carb, or try to get the screw out somehow, it could be the screws thread thats been damaged, its unlikely to be the carb anyway.
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I emailed HPI but got a message saying not to expect a reply for several days I live in Australia so there is no local HPI to contact either, man this really sucks...
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RE: LSN wont tighten
Calling them on the phone works best. I bet they would give you a number and tell you to send them the carb and they will send you a new one.
sounds like it was broke when you got it.
LIGHTLY snug next time...
sounds like it was broke when you got it.
LIGHTLY snug next time...