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spoonrc 11-26-2008 06:16 AM

Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
What do you guys think is a better choice. I love building the kits and don't have any trouble building them though what will be a better all out truck.

The price of the kit is 529 AUD and 499 for the 3.5. Its a hard choice but for super sport id rather pay the extra 30 and build it my own. Whats your comments?

Midget 11-26-2008 06:24 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
mmmmm, Dont think there was a 3.5.
In my Opinion - I would get the Savage XL...
Good Bang for Buck - 5.9engine, three speed, extended chassis, extended axles and larger cups and drive shafts...
Maybe a little more $$$ than the savage xss, but worth it for the upgrades..
Just my 2 cents

Oh sorry, 3.5 stands for .25
Yeah, there is no savage 3.5 X.
The Savage X range all have a 4.6 in them...

spoonrc 11-26-2008 07:14 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
There is.. link here http://www.*********.com.au/store/pr...ca8813823ec5fe its updated from the 3.5, its the 3.5 RTR but with X features.

Don't want the Savage XL.. they are way over priced in Australia, all the savages just dropped in price except for xl.

hhhs001 11-26-2008 07:17 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
First time I've seen a 3.5 with an X platform.

Not a bad price in that case.

twobnvd 11-26-2008 05:33 PM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
I have the 3.5 great power great motor has never let me down.. From what I have heard it is an ABC motor not sure what it means but people say they are nearly bullet proof.. LOL I love mine my brother has the x withthe 4.6 and he only beats me by about two feet in a 50 yard race. But that could be gearing as well... But I can pull wheelies with eas plenty of power u wont be dissapointed...

pythonfan 11-26-2008 05:34 PM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
for those who don't know the 3.5 is the uk version of the savage.

twobnvd 11-26-2008 10:44 PM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
correct mine came from overseas. Got mine off a guy that was in the milltary stationed overseas

ThunderbirdJunkie 11-26-2008 11:31 PM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
you know

The X 3.5 would be ideal for somebody planning on swapping the engine right away

hhhs001 11-27-2008 12:20 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
Depends how they package it really. Wouldn't wanna open the easy access gearboxes and discover - GASP - plastic diff housings with 2 bevel gears!!

If you're certain its a full on X platform, and you need the radio gear, and don't mind swapping the engine once you've ripped the 3.5 to shreds, then its a dream come true.

From my understanding the XSS has a few upgrades here and there compared to the RTRs, like the stinger, Dirt Bonz tires and I think a few things in the drivetrain.

ThunderbirdJunkie 11-27-2008 12:22 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
The HD outdrives and dogbones are useless in the XSS kit.
the std X4.6 diffs are good enough for most trucks, even the ones making epic power.
if the X3.5 has the aluminum diffs, and the easy access gearbox and bulkheads, GET IT!

spoonrc 11-27-2008 01:50 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
What I am extremely confused at is on this website http://www.hpieurope.com/kit-info.ph...No=882&lang=en it says that this is the classic one just updated. Now if you go here http://www.*********.com.au/store/ad...f741c2&x=0&y=0 its a different build but with the X platform..

I can't find anything on the HPI website about a Savage X 3.5 just a classic, but in the picture it does show the "X" and the only difference is the engine and exhaust.

If that is the "X" platform then I will probably get the 3.5 as within a few months I'll swap it out for a Picco .28.

twobnvd 11-27-2008 02:18 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
reguardless what everyone says you will not be dissapointed withthe 3.5 there are a bunch of 2.5 's out there and mine will run one into the ground and keep up with the 4.6 like I stated above.. The motor is solid as a ROCK.. its an ABC constructed motor. I run the heck outta mine daily and it keeps going.. Haters.. its still a savage just not an xl if the choice was xl or 3.5 go xl but other than that no major power diffrnec my brother has the 4.6 and I run side by side with him.
http://www.hpieurope.com/kit-info.ph...=en&partNo=882
straight from hpi's site says "Savage 3.5 – the best “value for money” Savage ever!"
If your gonna go picco go for it. Three speed trannys are not that great. Piccos destroy them anyways. Too much torque
### NO PLASTIC DIFFS### I have one

ThunderbirdJunkie 11-27-2008 02:19 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
Spoon...make sure it's got the aluminum diffs before you go doing anything like that...the 28 will eat those plastic diffs for lunch

spoonrc 11-27-2008 04:30 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=29695

its the X platform just different starter and engine. 17mm hex hubs etc, I think it has the aluminum diffs. Looks to be great value.

scxtreme 11-27-2008 07:17 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 


ORIGINAL: Midget

mmmmm, Dont think there was a 3.5.
In my Opinion - I would get the Savage XL...
Good Bang for Buck - 5.9engine, three speed, extended chassis, extended axles and larger cups and drive shafts...
Maybe a little more $$$ than the savage xss, but worth it for the upgrades..
Just my 2 cents

Oh sorry, 3.5 stands for .25
Yeah, there is no savage 3.5 X.
The Savage X range all have a 4.6 in them...
F4.1 also came in the Savage X. I have one. 3.5 would be a .21 engine. The 4.1 is a .25.

pythonfan 11-29-2008 07:25 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 

ORIGINAL: Midget

mmmmm, Dont think there was a 3.5.
In my Opinion - I would get the Savage XL...
Good Bang for Buck - 5.9engine, three speed, extended chassis, extended axles and larger cups and drive shafts...
Maybe a little more $$$ than the savage xss, but worth it for the upgrades..
Just my 2 cents

Oh sorry, 3.5 stands for .25
Yeah, there is no savage 3.5 X.
The Savage X range all have a 4.6 in them...
wrong again lol, scroll down

http://translate.google.com/translat...acing.co.jp%2F

rclugnut10 11-29-2008 09:16 PM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
uhg did anyone of you guys think to check the HPI europe site????
http://www.hpieurope.com/kit-info.ph...=en&partNo=882

the lug

spoonrc 11-30-2008 04:15 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 


ORIGINAL: pythonfan


ORIGINAL: Midget

mmmmm, Dont think there was a 3.5.
In my Opinion - I would get the Savage XL...
Good Bang for Buck - 5.9engine, three speed, extended chassis, extended axles and larger cups and drive shafts...
Maybe a little more $$$ than the savage xss, but worth it for the upgrades..
Just my 2 cents

Oh sorry, 3.5 stands for .25
Yeah, there is no savage 3.5 X.
The Savage X range all have a 4.6 in them...
wrong again lol, scroll down

http://translate.google.com/translat...acing.co.jp%2F
Thanks for the link!


MaD_MaxX 11-30-2008 10:01 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
Hmm, guys is there a savage X with plastic diff cases and one with alloy ones? I though all of them had alloy cases ::confused::

ThunderbirdJunkie 11-30-2008 06:46 PM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
the X 4.1 has plastic diff cases stock. later versions had the cups in the box with the truck, but not installed

MaD_MaxX 11-30-2008 07:57 PM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
Thanks tbj but this whole savage thing has confused me a little :D
So the engine, the diff case and the dual brakes are the only differences between the older and the newer X ??
I found a good deal for a savage x but its the 4.1 and I don't know if it's'worth it. Well, the dude that's selling it has upgraded the cases to alloy and the brakes. But is there any other major difference between these two that a basher would notice? Like the drive shafts or the transmission for example.

ThunderbirdJunkie 11-30-2008 08:03 PM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
Nope.

Savage X 4.1 is identical to the 4.6, for the most part. Engine/CB are different, diffs are different, brakes are different, that is all

Damo_MadTruck 02-19-2009 02:44 AM

RE: Savage 3.5 X RTR vs. Savage 4.6 XSS kit
 
Does the 3.5 share parts with any other savages? Does anyone know the top speed of the 3.5?

I am also thinking of buying one. Do you think i should?

Thanks


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