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keep 5.9 or sell it??
i plan on buying the savage xl, and wanted to know if the 5.9 is worth running, or should i sell it new and put the picco .28 ( mabye the lrp) in. is the 5.9 a good reliable engine that holds a tune?
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RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
Sell teh 5.9. It has not been a great engine. Itys got problems with bearings, needles falling out and air leaks. Also the Picco and LRP will be faster anyways. Top end of the 5.9 is not all that good. You can easily sell the 5.9 on ebay and get the money or at least most of the money you need. You can also wait till the lrp 30 comes out.
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RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
I just put a Picco .28 and 086 pipe on my XL and love it...I had the clips in the piston fail on me 2 time already and had nothing but problems with the 5.9...The truck is awsome with the Picco
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RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
when does the lrp .30 come out? also is there any thing else that needs attention out of the box? besides lociting
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RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
The LRP 30 is out, in at least two variations, the LRP and Nosram 30. The Aussies and Europeans have local access to them, I am not sure when they will hit the US market. Glen
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RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
I don't like selling my trucks or my old parts so I am keeping the 5.9 in my XL till she hand grenades her self Then the picco goes in. I will rebuild the 5.9 and put it in some thing else like my Tower Terror or what ever [sm=shades_smile.gif]
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Heres hoping my 5.9 has problems just befor the p3 Im getting from supertib arrives. Then I can explain the new one to my girlfriend.
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RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
So far my XL 5.9 is ok . . . seems to need a tune every run. I have 7 tanks through it . . . getting better every run . . . but the general set up on the XL seems lacking?
I am constantly having to adjust the idle and throttle servo . . . have random shut downs . . . always running rich, then bam engine temp jumps to 300+ . . . while smoke and muff discharge are everywhere :) My low speed needle seems really tight . . . hard to do an 1/8 turn, only done 2 1/8 turns . . . but feel as though it's going to break. If anyone can give me a history of their tuning experience with the 5.9 please help. I am headed in the right direction and things slowly get better . . . but the idle and throttle servo are really getting to me. Every time I run I am having to mess with idle, breaking, revs and spinning wheels . . . and then random idle shut downs . . . I am loving the tweaking, but . . . will this thing ever run smooth ? |
RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
ORIGINAL: Nitrocrow So far my XL 5.9 is ok . . . seems to need a tune every run. I have 7 tanks through it . . . getting better every run . . . but the general set up on the XL seems lacking? I am constantly having to adjust the idle and throttle servo . . . have random shut downs . . . always running rich, then bam engine temp jumps to 300+ . . . while smoke and muff discharge are everywhere :) My low speed needle seems really tight . . . hard to do an 1/8 turn, only done 2 1/8 turns . . . but feel as though it's going to break. If anyone can give me a history of their tuning experience with the 5.9 please help. I am headed in the right direction and things slowly get better . . . but the idle and throttle servo are really getting to me. Every time I run I am having to mess with idle, breaking, revs and spinning wheels . . . and then random idle shut downs . . . I am loving the tweaking, but . . . will this thing ever run smooth ? |
RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
I say sell it!!!!!
Heck, even if the engine were the older K4.6 engine, I would sell that too. Tday's aftermarket engines are just so much better than the K engines. |
RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
Nah I am blowing smoke and un-used fuel at all rpms . . . from Idle to high speed . . . I have only gave the low speed a 1/16 turn. I have an air leak somewhere . . . but I'm afraid I don't have the expertise to rebuild an engine yet.
On blocks should my drive train be spinning at all . . . that is another thing I can't correct no matter how much I minor(ly) tweak idle, break and servo . . . :( ORIGINAL: bigwaltc ORIGINAL: Nitrocrow So far my XL 5.9 is ok . . . seems to need a tune every run. I have 7 tanks through it . . . getting better every run . . . but the general set up on the XL seems lacking? I am constantly having to adjust the idle and throttle servo . . . have random shut downs . . . always running rich, then bam engine temp jumps to 300+ . . . while smoke and muff discharge are everywhere :) My low speed needle seems really tight . . . hard to do an 1/8 turn, only done 2 1/8 turns . . . but feel as though it's going to break. If anyone can give me a history of their tuning experience with the 5.9 please help. I am headed in the right direction and things slowly get better . . . but the idle and throttle servo are really getting to me. Every time I run I am having to mess with idle, breaking, revs and spinning wheels . . . and then random idle shut downs . . . I am loving the tweaking, but . . . will this thing ever run smooth ? |
RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
Though Big Walt I will turn the LSN back that 1/16 . . . if you think that is the case . . . so far from what I read I respect you !!!
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RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
btw lsn is flush . . . :D
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RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
ORIGINAL: Nitrocrow Though Big Walt I will turn the LSN back that 1/16 . . . if you think that is the case . . . so far from what I read I respect you !!! |
RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
ORIGINAL: Nitrocrow Nah I am blowing smoke and un-used fuel at all rpms . . . from Idle to high speed . . . I have only gave the low speed a 1/16 turn. I have an air leak somewhere . . . but I'm afraid I don't have the expertise to rebuild an engine yet. On blocks should my drive train be spinning at all . . . that is another thing I can't correct no matter how much I minor(ly) tweak idle, break and servo . . . :( ORIGINAL: bigwaltc ORIGINAL: Nitrocrow So far my XL 5.9 is ok . . . seems to need a tune every run. I have 7 tanks through it . . . getting better every run . . . but the general set up on the XL seems lacking? I am constantly having to adjust the idle and throttle servo . . . have random shut downs . . . always running rich, then bam engine temp jumps to 300+ . . . while smoke and muff discharge are everywhere :) My low speed needle seems really tight . . . hard to do an 1/8 turn, only done 2 1/8 turns . . . but feel as though it's going to break. If anyone can give me a history of their tuning experience with the 5.9 please help. I am headed in the right direction and things slowly get better . . . but the idle and throttle servo are really getting to me. Every time I run I am having to mess with idle, breaking, revs and spinning wheels . . . and then random idle shut downs . . . I am loving the tweaking, but . . . will this thing ever run smooth ? |
RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
Yea After a run and the shut down at 2 1/8 turns (1 1/4 turn) on the LSN . . . I turned it back
(1/8 and then some), though smoke was everywhere and it was still spitting . . . still say result . . . and still super sluggish acceleration . . . thanks for help though! |
RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
bigwaltc . . . WAS EXACTLY RIGHT . . . today in warmer weather, I turned back the LSN (rich), and MAGIC, no shutdowns or stalls . . . leaned the HSN a tad more and my 5.9 XL is running like a dream . . . THANKs MAN !!! Doing wheelies and engine temp is a purrrfect 240 !
Thanks folks !!! and thanks to Budbud . . . also . . . ORIGINAL: bigwaltc ORIGINAL: Nitrocrow So far my XL 5.9 is ok . . . seems to need a tune every run. I have 7 tanks through it . . . getting better every run . . . but the general set up on the XL seems lacking? I am constantly having to adjust the idle and throttle servo . . . have random shut downs . . . always running rich, then bam engine temp jumps to 300+ . . . while smoke and muff discharge are everywhere :) My low speed needle seems really tight . . . hard to do an 1/8 turn, only done 2 1/8 turns . . . but feel as though it's going to break. If anyone can give me a history of their tuning experience with the 5.9 please help. I am headed in the right direction and things slowly get better . . . but the idle and throttle servo are really getting to me. Every time I run I am having to mess with idle, breaking, revs and spinning wheels . . . and then random idle shut downs . . . I am loving the tweaking, but . . . will this thing ever run smooth ? |
RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
ORIGINAL: Nitrocrow bigwaltc . . . WAS EXACTLY RIGHT . . . today in warmer weather, I turned back the LSN (rich), and MAGIC, no shutdowns or stalls . . . leaned the HSN a tad more and my 5.9 XL is running like a dream . . . THANKs MAN !!! Doing wheelies and engine temp is a purrrfect 240 ! Thanks folks !!! and thanks to Budbud . . . also . . . ORIGINAL: bigwaltc ORIGINAL: Nitrocrow So far my XL 5.9 is ok . . . seems to need a tune every run. I have 7 tanks through it . . . getting better every run . . . but the general set up on the XL seems lacking? I am constantly having to adjust the idle and throttle servo . . . have random shut downs . . . always running rich, then bam engine temp jumps to 300+ . . . while smoke and muff discharge are everywhere :) My low speed needle seems really tight . . . hard to do an 1/8 turn, only done 2 1/8 turns . . . but feel as though it's going to break. If anyone can give me a history of their tuning experience with the 5.9 please help. I am headed in the right direction and things slowly get better . . . but the idle and throttle servo are really getting to me. Every time I run I am having to mess with idle, breaking, revs and spinning wheels . . . and then random idle shut downs . . . I am loving the tweaking, but . . . will this thing ever run smooth ? |
RE: keep 5.9 or sell it??
Good to hear it's running well for you! I never realized how picky these motors can be until I learned the hard way! The slightest turn on the LSN will affect it, and the MSN gave me some problems as well, I used copper RTV and siliconed it, as well as the base of the carb. Had a buddy from another forum (local) help me out, he gave me some free parts and gave my truck a quick tune! Very happy thus far, had a fun night on Saturday in the cold!
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