What About a Staudacher S-300?
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I won 3rd place in Sportsman at the 2002 IMAC nats in Muncie with the Lanier Staudacher. As dumb as it sounds, I BEEFED it up, as it was my first big gasser! Box stock, with 1/8 wing sheeting (full coverage - no fake ribs) it weighs 26 pounds dry, after 2 significant rebuilds. It's powered with a BME 102, and it will accelerate vertical till it disappears in the sky. It flies smooth, slows down nicely on the downlines with a 2 blade MENZ 26-10, and only burns about 20 ounces doing the sportsman sequence twice. It requires about 3% UP mix with rudder to avoid a nose pitch down with Rudder, but that's about it. I'm building a second one with fake ribs (3/4 inch wide) with foam between them hot wired out, and this saves about 10 ounces compared to a fully sheeted, solid foam wing. Replacing the tank floor with 1/8 lightply saves another ounce. A couple 2 3/4 holes in the firewall box saves another 3 ounces. I DID replace the built up flat tail surfaces with airfoiled foam on this one, hoping to make it more "groovy" in flight, though the full scale had slab surfaces just like the kit. By the way, those tail flying wires are FUNCTIONAL, so be sure to put them in solid. I managed to pop one doing some violent snaps!
The plastic cowl and wheelpants are just fine if you take your time and follow the instructions. I paint my plastic parts with Rustoleum appliance epoxy white as a base color. It's fuelproof, and tough as nails, but takes about a week to dry completely.
I really like mine, and plan on beating the pants off some guys with my $239 kit!!
The plastic cowl and wheelpants are just fine if you take your time and follow the instructions. I paint my plastic parts with Rustoleum appliance epoxy white as a base color. It's fuelproof, and tough as nails, but takes about a week to dry completely.
I really like mine, and plan on beating the pants off some guys with my $239 kit!!

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I'm in the process of building a Lanier Staudacher. I have a construction article on my website. It is a work in progress, as is the plane. Look under 'Technical Articles' in the menu on the left.
See http://cih.home.mindspring.com/rcindex.html
Let me know what y'all think.
Craig.
See http://cih.home.mindspring.com/rcindex.html
Let me know what y'all think.
Craig.
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I built two for the TOC once for Mike Mc Connville - -and built some smaller ones - --I used diamond shaped airfoils on all of em - no rigging wires - all were kept light - if you ignore the fuselage shape - the layout is close to the S 300
anyway - the Staudachers -fly as well as anything else - if you use identical wing loading/power/ size - you would be hard pressed to find much difference between them and the 300 S stuff - I sure couldn't.
If you go by the differences in various kits -- the comparisons have no validity -
anyway - the Staudachers -fly as well as anything else - if you use identical wing loading/power/ size - you would be hard pressed to find much difference between them and the 300 S stuff - I sure couldn't.
If you go by the differences in various kits -- the comparisons have no validity -
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I have acquired a Carl Goldberg Staudacher. Haven't flown it yet, I'm hoping for this weekend. Doesn't have a cowl, but I've ordered that. I haven't seen one at our field, so I'll enjoy having a unique aircraft! It's powered by a Super Tigre G-90.
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I have been flying the 40% Lanier Staudacher for two years now. I cored out the wings and lightened up the fuse some, all up weight with a ZDZ160 Champ on KS89 pipes is 37.5 lbs. This combo is out of sight vertical. I only fly IMAC so I can't comment on 3D stuff but I will put my Staudacher up against any thing on the planet as far a IMAC goes. The Staudacher is just one smooth flying plane, mine has no knife edge coupling at all, it lands at a walk. I like it better than my Extra 330l as it slows down a lot better in the down lines. I believe that any one who builds this plane will like it a lot just pay attention to weight but that goes for any model you build. Just my .02
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Well.. the Staudacher flew today! It was a bit windy and cool, but not all bad. She was a little squirrely at first while I faught it's unreasonable desire to fly into the ground. But once trimmed out, she flew like a dream. And man, talk about a gentle landing! Touched down with barely a bounce, and nice and slow. I can tell I'm going to really enjoy flying this plane.
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Just in case the original poster cares.
I just started flying a Lanier Staudacher, the 33%ish version.
Fly VERY VERY well.
I over-powered it abit. I fit a 3W106QS. Fits like a glove.
Had to mount the Fromeco Lithiums in the back so i could balance it.
Flys great, had to add some up/right thrusts to keepit straight in verticals.
A great thing about the staudacher is the way it slows down. it has a lot of nose area,
and then you pull the throttle back it really comes to a halt.
Anyway, just my 2cents.
If any of you flyt the SE imac circuit, you'll see it this year.
Cheers
wayne dengel
I just started flying a Lanier Staudacher, the 33%ish version.
Fly VERY VERY well.
I over-powered it abit. I fit a 3W106QS. Fits like a glove.
Had to mount the Fromeco Lithiums in the back so i could balance it.
Flys great, had to add some up/right thrusts to keepit straight in verticals.
A great thing about the staudacher is the way it slows down. it has a lot of nose area,
and then you pull the throttle back it really comes to a halt.
Anyway, just my 2cents.
If any of you flyt the SE imac circuit, you'll see it this year.
Cheers
wayne dengel
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I just purchased a used staudacher 37% that was built by Pauls custom R/C at around mabye 1998 or so and the originall owner is not sure what kit this a/c may have been born from . It may have even built from plans;I have tried the phone number on the internet no luck it looks like paul is out of business or has another name at this time. If anyone knows of this builders location Iwould be very happy to get his new number so I can get the plans. Thanks 36OLDS
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I have built a Lanier Staudacher, and have a ZDZ 80 ccm twin in it. I like it very much. It fits xacly into my VW Passat coupe.
It took me some xtra time to make the engine fitting, with adjustable bolts an rubberknobs. The ZDZ has xacly the space it need, nothing more! I think the ZDZ 80 gives it the power it need, with unlimitet vertical. I have 2 KS cannisters in it.
You can see images of the plane at my site: http://home.online.no/~jaeioluf/rc/
It took me some xtra time to make the engine fitting, with adjustable bolts an rubberknobs. The ZDZ has xacly the space it need, nothing more! I think the ZDZ 80 gives it the power it need, with unlimitet vertical. I have 2 KS cannisters in it.
You can see images of the plane at my site: http://home.online.no/~jaeioluf/rc/
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Hey Guys,
Just a little information about the Staudacher, Jon Staudacher sold the rights to Greg PANZL, Greg now produces the PANZL 330. Greg also did the paint work fot Matt Chapmans CAP 580. Greg"S Company is called Wingtip to Wingtip and he is located in MI abouit 1 hour north of Toledo
We produce a 35% PANZL and are developing a 40% PANZL. We manufacturer several planes. The PANZL is right at the top as far as performance in IMAC and 3D.
You can check out our support page on RCU and talk to our customers that have them. The'll let you know.
We sponsor Jerry Neel. Jerry has flow all of our planes and will be flying in the Masters this year. I don't remember if Brad has had a chance to fly the PANZL but Brad competed with our 40% extra330L
Thanks
Al Young
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www.jtecrc.com
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Just a little information about the Staudacher, Jon Staudacher sold the rights to Greg PANZL, Greg now produces the PANZL 330. Greg also did the paint work fot Matt Chapmans CAP 580. Greg"S Company is called Wingtip to Wingtip and he is located in MI abouit 1 hour north of Toledo
We produce a 35% PANZL and are developing a 40% PANZL. We manufacturer several planes. The PANZL is right at the top as far as performance in IMAC and 3D.
You can check out our support page on RCU and talk to our customers that have them. The'll let you know.
We sponsor Jerry Neel. Jerry has flow all of our planes and will be flying in the Masters this year. I don't remember if Brad has had a chance to fly the PANZL but Brad competed with our 40% extra330L
Thanks
Al Young
JTEC/RADIOWAVE
www.jtecrc.com
[email protected]
704-799-1658
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Al,
That is not correct. Jon Staudacher did not sell the rights to the Staudacher to Greg Panzl. Greg sells a Staudacher copy, Greg does not own the rights to the Staudacher.
Regards,
Anna Wood
Queen Creek, AZ
That is not correct. Jon Staudacher did not sell the rights to the Staudacher to Greg Panzl. Greg sells a Staudacher copy, Greg does not own the rights to the Staudacher.
Regards,
Anna Wood
Queen Creek, AZ
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Good morning Mr. Hanson, Could you please tell me how you did the diamond shape tail section on the Lanier Staudacher and how did keep from using the flying wires?
Bob
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I built two for the TOC once for Mike Mc Connville - -and built some smaller ones - --I used diamond shaped airfoils on all of em - no rigging wires - all were kept light - if you ignore the fuselage shape - the layout is close to the S 300
anyway - the Staudachers -fly as well as anything else - if you use identical wing loading/power/ size - you would be hard pressed to find much difference between them and the 300 S stuff - I sure couldn't.
If you go by the differences in various kits -- the comparisons have no validity -
I built two for the TOC once for Mike Mc Connville - -and built some smaller ones - --I used diamond shaped airfoils on all of em - no rigging wires - all were kept light - if you ignore the fuselage shape - the layout is close to the S 300
anyway - the Staudachers -fly as well as anything else - if you use identical wing loading/power/ size - you would be hard pressed to find much difference between them and the 300 S stuff - I sure couldn't.
If you go by the differences in various kits -- the comparisons have no validity -
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I have a lanier staudacher slightly modified (raised the wing 1 inch and airfoiled the stab and fin). It flies great. Managed to win Sportsman (NC Regional champ) back in 2003. Still have it and need to sell it to make room for new stuff. It's in the 3D and aerobatic classifieds. Good shape, just normal usage rash. One hell of a bargain. All you need is radio and engine. Includes all digital servos and BUILT IN home made cannister mufflers (very effective).
It took a long time to figure out how to make it "present" well in the snaps, but once I got that figured out, it was a fine flying machine. This one comes in at 27 pounds with a BME 102/105 on it. It doesn't fly heavy at all, and is VERY stable. It's a good low cost entry into IMAC. I would recommend it as a first IMAC airplane if you're on a budget.
It took a long time to figure out how to make it "present" well in the snaps, but once I got that figured out, it was a fine flying machine. This one comes in at 27 pounds with a BME 102/105 on it. It doesn't fly heavy at all, and is VERY stable. It's a good low cost entry into IMAC. I would recommend it as a first IMAC airplane if you're on a budget.
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Why don't you see very many Staudachers. Are they not good planes? I see a lot of RC kits but I,ve never seen one at a fly-in or Imaa event. How do they fly? I was looking at the Giantscaleplanes.com's 90" Staudacher ARF. It is a beautiful plane.
Can anyone tell me how this plane flys? Is it comparable to the Extras, Edges or Caps. (Notice I didn't say Sukhoi). Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Kelly
Can anyone tell me how this plane flys? Is it comparable to the Extras, Edges or Caps. (Notice I didn't say Sukhoi). Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Kelly
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