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Frankenthumb 04-08-2004 11:51 PM

The 4 basic manuvers
 
Hi guys,

I'm sitting here trying to remember the "basic" manuvers.

I recall seeing a show that described "4 basic manuvers" from which all other manuvers are derived:

1. loop
2. roll
3. ?
4. ?

The others I can't recall, but I think that Spin may have been one of them? And Straight Line the other?

Maybe there were only 3 basics? Does anyone out there know what the heck I'm talking about, or am I ready for the "Loony Bin"?

Geistware 04-09-2004 01:30 AM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
Check out this link
http://www.geistware.com/rcmodeling/...ics/maneuvers/




ORIGINAL: Frankenthumb

Hi guys,

I'm sitting here trying to remember the "basic" manuvers.

I recall seeing a show that described "4 basic manuvers" from which all other manuvers are derived:

1. loop
2. roll
3. ?
4. ?

The others I can't recall, but I think that Spin may have been one of them? And Straight Line the other?

Maybe there were only 3 basics? Does anyone out there know what the heck I'm talking about, or am I ready for the "Loony Bin"?

MarkNovack 04-09-2004 01:50 AM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
Franken,
You are not ready for the loony bin. You are right on the money. Loop, roll, straight flight, and spin (or autorotation) are the basic forms of flight that all other aerobatic manuevers are formed from. Some people include take-off and landing, but these are not basic forms of aerobatic flight, they are basic manuevers.

Example: A Cuban 8 is two 5/8th loops with 2 stright lines and two half rolls.

Example: An avalanche is a loop with an autorotation on the top (a snap is an autorotation just like a spin but nastier).

Regards,
Mark

Frankenthumb 04-09-2004 08:50 AM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
Thanks guys!

Geist: Great site! Lots of good stuff there.

Mark: How would you classify a hammerhead? Straight line vertical, then what? 1/2 spin?

Geistware 04-09-2004 07:49 PM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
Vertical up line, yaw around the planes CG with less than 1/2 wing span displacement prior to the down line.




ORIGINAL: Frankenthumb
Thanks guys!
Geist: Great site! Lots of good stuff there.

Mark: How would you classify a hammerhead? Straight line vertical, then what? 1/2 spin?

Frankenthumb 04-09-2004 08:00 PM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
Right, I know how to perform a hammerhead, what I'm wondering is: what is the wing-over at the top considered, considering that there are 4 basic manuvers (loop, roll, straight line, spin). Would it be considered a 1/2 loop (even though it is done on the yaw axis, it is still a half circle) or would it be considered a 1/2 spin?

I'm guessing Spin, but I'm no expert.

Geistware 04-09-2004 09:34 PM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
No it is considered a stall turn.

Frankenthumb 04-10-2004 02:07 AM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
I don't think a stall turn is one ov the 4 basics, is it?

psk560 04-10-2004 07:48 AM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
In the film "Daredevils of the Sky" which is film about aerobatic pilots, they list the four basic maneuvers as the

roll
loop
hammerhead
spin


Hope this helps. Just watched it the other day.

Craig

FrancisG 04-10-2004 10:32 AM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
Where does the tailslide fit in?

Frankenthumb 04-10-2004 07:08 PM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
PSK, are you positive about that? I was sure that straight line was one of them.

So how about this: loop, roll, straight line, stall.

"stall" would cover any manuver where the wing is stalled IE hammerhead, tail slide, etc. A snap roll would be a combination of roll and stall, etc.

Geistware 04-10-2004 08:34 PM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
A hammer head is a stall turn!

psk560 04-11-2004 07:00 PM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
Frankenthumb. Those are the maneuvers the short documentary about aerobatics listed. It was a film made by "NOVA", "Daredevils of the Sky".

Craig

siclick33 04-11-2004 07:10 PM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
Is a tail slide a stall? I thought it was a ballistic manoeuvre.

The wing never reaches it's critical angle of attack.

Geistware 04-11-2004 08:48 PM

RE: The 4 basic manuvers
 
Tail slide is an advanced maneuver


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