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Old 09-25-2020, 08:17 PM
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Default 11.1v Battery for G4 turbine

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Does anyone know if 3c Lipo (11.1v) is supported by Kingtech G4 model turbines?
Old 09-26-2020, 04:22 AM
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3S Life still....the only draw back......
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Originally Posted by Dansy
3S Life still....the only draw back......
Bummer - but thank you for confirming, Dansy.
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Originally Posted by skunkwurk
Bummer - but thank you for confirming, Dansy.
i talked to Dirk about the limitation. It's actually 10.0 volts and the limiting component is the igniter. Freshly charged LiFe's should be drained down to the 10.0 limit before you start the Turbine.
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Originally Posted by Zeeb
i talked to Dirk about the limitation. It's actually 10.0 volts and the limiting component is the igniter. Freshly charged LiFe's should be drained down to the 10.0 limit before you start the Turbine.
Thanks, Zeeb.
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The 10v has always been the least since G1, the motor won’t start if the voltage is above, self preserving
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Originally Posted by Zeeb
i talked to Dirk about the limitation. It's actually 10.0 volts and the limiting component is the igniter. Freshly charged LiFe's should be drained down to the 10.0 limit before you start the Turbine.
I've just checked the G4 manual to see if it mentions anything about the 10.0V limit - it doesn't. I'm sure a fully charged 3S Life battery would max around 12.5V ? Do we have any source for that guidance please?

Regards, Jason
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Originally Posted by Jason_H
I've just checked the G4 manual to see if it mentions anything about the 10.0V limit - it doesn't. I'm sure a fully charged 3S Life battery would max around 12.5V ? Do we have any source for that guidance please?

Regards, Jason
‘You will never see 12.5 from a 3SLife.....at least I never have all you have to do is cooling for a few second then it will start
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Originally Posted by Dansy
‘You will never see 12.5 from a 3SLife.....at least I never have all you have to do is cooling for a few second then it will start
Those LIFE batteries voltages are black magic to me, but I know what you mean! Not like a simple LIPO, you know when you are at 25% easily with those
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Originally Posted by Jason_H
I've just checked the G4 manual to see if it mentions anything about the 10.0V limit - it doesn't. I'm sure a fully charged 3S Life battery would max around 12.5V ? Do we have any source for that guidance please?

Regards, Jason
Yes, actually it doesn't. It only mentions 10.0V limit in G1 & G2 manuals. But since Kingtech recommends 3S LiFe for G4 as well, it means that all G series share the same igniters. That's my understanding.
As for the batteries, a fully charged 3S LiFe will be 10.8V and a fully charged 3S LiPo will be 12.6V. That's a serious voltage difference.......
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Originally Posted by Jason_H
I've just checked the G4 manual to see if it mentions anything about the 10.0V limit - it doesn't. I'm sure a fully charged 3S Life battery would max around 12.5V ? Do we have any source for that guidance please?

Regards, Jason
Yeah, Dirk......
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Old 12-08-2020, 04:43 AM
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At times you can get the overvoltage message on a fully charged LIFE battery. So after a charge I like to hold the throttle up a little longer during the start. This will run the starter motor manually before the start lowering the voltage for a good start.

3 cell LIFE is the only recommended battery for these engines G2 and up. Some people will use a 2 cell LIPO but that does not last as many flights and not recommended since the biggest wear on a turbine happens during start up you want the max voltage the system requires. I also would never stick a lipo in my plane anyway unless its an EDF but that's just me. I have to many scale planes that the battery's are not accessible without allot of work so they must be charged in the plane.
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