Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > Kit Building
Reload this Page >

gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

Community
Search
Notices
Kit Building If you're building a kit and have questions or want to discuss kit building post it here.

gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-04-2011, 06:13 AM
  #1  
edgeflyer
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: TX
Posts: 369
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

Can I use super77 to bond thin aluminum to fiberglass ? Should I take the primer back down to bare glass ? Thanks
Old 05-04-2011, 10:12 AM
  #2  
cutaway
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Worth, FL
Posts: 1,009
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

Is this a structural or cosmetic bond? If it just something like gluing aluminum foil fake panels on, gluing to the primer will probably work fine. If it has to take any load, maybe not...
Old 05-04-2011, 10:41 AM
  #3  
Hydro Junkie
 
Hydro Junkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Marysville, WA
Posts: 10,524
Received 130 Likes on 123 Posts
Default RE: gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

I have to agree, if you're talking a structural bond, strip the primer. What you have to remember is that the glue will only hold as much stress as what it's attached to. If the primer bond is weaker than the glue, the primer will let go and the bond will fail. If it was me in that situation, I'd strip the primer and scuff sand the glass to get a better bond
Old 05-04-2011, 02:06 PM
  #4  
soarrich
My Feedback: (98)
 
soarrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: The Villages, Florida NJ
Posts: 4,677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass


ORIGINAL: edgeflyer

Can I use super77 to bond thin aluminum to fiberglass ? Should I take the primer back down to bare glass ? Thanks
I agree with what the others said, plus this:
Fiberglass and aluminum will vibrate in different ways, no glue bond will really work. You want to mechanically tie the parts together,rivets, bolts come to mind, but you can use fiberglass to do it too. If you wanted to bond a aluminum rod to the inside of a fuse you could drill a hole across the rod so that glass and resin would get in the hole. Now if the resin bond fails you have the mechanical bonding still holding the rod to the fuse.
Old 05-04-2011, 05:36 PM
  #5  
invertmast
My Feedback: (23)
 
invertmast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Capon Bridge, WV
Posts: 8,198
Received 225 Likes on 116 Posts
Default RE: gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

super77 has a tendency of relaxing its hold when subjected to high heat as well....
Old 05-05-2011, 03:54 AM
  #6  
sensei
 
sensei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: SAN ANTONIO, TX
Posts: 2,826
Received 17 Likes on 15 Posts
Default RE: gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

3M 77 spray adhesive is a temporary spray adhesive only, I don't know what your application is, but if you do decide to go with a spray, brush, or roll on adhesive, you might consider 3M 30NF, it is much better suited for for permanent bond lines.

Bob
Old 05-05-2011, 06:48 AM
  #7  
ARUP
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,343
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

Do a test with lacquer based contact cement. Methinks it would work well for light structural (your call!) and cosmetic work. That stuff really sticks to itself! I have used it to stick 1/64 ply skins to balsa and ply open structure. You can't get the pieces apart without breaking something.
Old 05-05-2011, 07:11 PM
  #8  
edgeflyer
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: TX
Posts: 369
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

Gluing fake aluminum turkey feathers to the tailcone of my jet.
Old 05-05-2011, 08:47 PM
  #9  
soarrich
My Feedback: (98)
 
soarrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: The Villages, Florida NJ
Posts: 4,677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass


ORIGINAL: edgeflyer

Gluing fake aluminum turkey feathers to the tailcone of my jet.
Go to HomeDepot and get DUCT Tape, not Duck Tape, it's in the heating and air conditioning section. I scratch-built this plane and made a fiberglass cowl for it then used Duct Tape to make it look like aluminum panels.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Nl28266.jpg
Views:	29
Size:	104.5 KB
ID:	1604878  
Old 05-06-2011, 02:27 PM
  #10  
khelsea
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Detroit Lakes, MN
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

I glue lithoplate to whatever with contact cement. Use a roller to get full contact where you can. Just make sure you scratch it up on the backside and clean well with lacquer thinner and wait for the contact cement to dry " weldwood" when they touch together they arn't comin apart. Just put 4 louvers on each side of my Concept Fleet, came out great. Lanny Khelsea
Old 05-11-2011, 03:32 PM
  #11  
tenacious101010
Senior Member
My Feedback: (97)
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 1,653
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: gluing aluminum to primed fiberglass

I have found the best adhesive for securing aliminum sheeting to composite is Ganopy Glue. The worst part is it takes a while to try but it works great. I just completed a 100 inch wingspan plane completely covered with aluminum roof flashing from home depot. I was amazed how well the canopy glue worked after testing many different adhesives.
Denny

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ec88042.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	117.3 KB
ID:	1607247  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.