Goldberg Super Chipmunk build, round two, modified (rebuild)
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Goldberg Super Chipmunk build, round two, modified (rebuild)
After crashing my chippy I decided I liked this plane too much to not rebuild a new one. This will be a modified plane with retracts, and a DLE20cc gas engine.
All that I have learned building in that last year or so will go into this plane. I started with the wing and decided to sheet the entire wing for strength being it will have the DLE20 in it.
For the retracts, I am using the Sierra 100 degrees rotating retracts. They worked well in the last bashed up chip with the Corsair wing. The chippy wing is not as thick at the core and the spare is a little forward. I am using the same system used on the Corsair wing with a plywood spare at the retract. I also installed a plywood rib on either side and at the LE. Sheathing the entire wing should help with strength also.
I am going with the servo in the wing also. On all my kits, I have been doing scale hinge lines and I have only done three planes this way. It is a lot of work, and I wanted to come up with a better and easier way to do this. The first system was using triangle balsa and sanding it down to a radius to receive the rounded ailerons or elevator, a lot of sanding!
Furthermore, the TE of the wing at the ailerons is very delicate and does not cover or finish out well. So I decided to try using carbon-fiber strips and a small balsa block to achieve the pocket. It would be strong and hopefully easier.
It worked out very well and was so much easier than all the sanding, and it was no more work than the standard beveled systems recommended in the kit.
Step one is to clamp a strait edge to the bottom of the TE, put wax paper between the two so they don’t get glued together. Clamp every few inches.Step two, cut a piece of CF to length leaving it just a little long at the end (wing tip). Clamp it down to hold it in place and at the right angle. Using quick CA glue it in place. Step four, cut and glue a piece of square stock to the inside of the CF and TE, clamp it of hold it with your finger. Repeat for the top. This is so easy and takes only a few minuets to do. It does push the aileron out a ¼ so it is best to do the ailerons first then do the wing tips and center section to match the ailerons. Very clean and very strong. I am very curious to how it will finish out with covering. The ailerons finish the same, round them off, cut the slot, and you are good to go. We will see if this works on the tail feathers.
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The finished wing ready for sanding, I will do that when the fuselage is done and then I will fiberglass the center section too. I did solid balsa wing tips and made them a little longer and thicker at the aileron, nice and strong for those windy days and wing tip scraping.
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Tail feathers
The scale hinge line worked great on the stab and fin also. I did do it a little different then the wing. In the stab I held the sheathing back at the TE using a small square stock of balsa. Then I glued a small piece of 1/32 balsa to shim out the CF to be flush with the top of the sheathing. This was as much work as the ailerons and very easy.
On to the fuselage!
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Modifications to fuselage and tail feathers.
I beefed up the firewall and added right thrust. I also added another set of ribs on the fuselage sheeting; the three just is not enough to give a clean rounded look to the turtle back.
I placed the retract air tank up in the fuse behind the cockpit to allow for the pull-pull for rudder.
The tail feathers will be getting scale linkages. The elevator gets a heavy doughty torque rod soldered this time; also the rudder and tail wheel get a soldered torque rod too. The fule tank will sit at the CG up in front of the cockpit.
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RE: Goldberg Super Chipmunk build, round two, modified (rebuild)
Great airplane and an excellent kit, except for a small span in it's life!! I've built several over the years and have one on the shelf for a winter project. I noticed all the die crunched parts are now laser cut, big improvement.
I was wanting to power it with a 15cc gas engine but there is a weight difference of about 14 oz. over the Saito 91 that I probably will use. Have you done any figuring to see how much nose heavy you might be?
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I was wanting to power it with a 15cc gas engine but there is a weight difference of about 14 oz. over the Saito 91 that I probably will use. Have you done any figuring to see how much nose heavy you might be?
rv9-a
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I have flown this plane with both the Saito 100 and the DLE 20. With the Saito it flew very good as a chippy should, light and fun. With the DLE 20 it flew just as good but with much more get up and go, unlimited vertical and a lot of fun, not much change in flying tendencies. To balance with the DLE20 I put both batteries in the back section of the fuse. It weighed just under 11lb. I fly in wind a lot, 15-20 and it loves that and I am good with that. I am almost ready to cover so I will post all my modifications leading up to that soon. This kit builds very easy and fast. I don't remember if it was much different then the first besides now they give you a plastic cockpit. I'm not going to use it. My chippy lasted just over a year of rough flying, hard landings and a lot of abuse. It only died due to my lack of skills and experience. I am making it really strong so I can abuse it even more ;-)
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I was hoping you would say you did it with the batteries. I'll just build in a aft battery compartment as I go. I may just go with the DLE 20 it actually weighs fraction of an ounce less than the JBA 15cc.
Keep the reports coming.
thanks, rv9-a
Keep the reports coming.
thanks, rv9-a
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Yes, the DLE20 is a good fit to just about any 60 sized sports plane; war birds are more finicky with the extra weight. I finished the fuselage and adding the extra ¼ rails for the sheathing worked really good, keeps the shape much better. I am using the last punch out on the bottom of the fuse for my battery hatch. I glued in a few rails to tie the batteries too. Next I will mount the engine and set the cowl.
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Engine and cowl
For those that are wondering how a DLE20 will fit on a 60-sized kit, here is how it fit on my chippy. On my first chippy that was built for the Saito 100 all I did was drill new holes for the new engine mount and move the cowl out to fit. On this new chippy I am building it for the DLE20 so I put some mounting blocks for right thrust and to move the engine a little further away from the firewall so the carb can breath. The throttle and fuel lines are pretty much the same as you would for glow. I did decide to put the ignition inside where the tank use to be. The fiberglass cowl fits well and it looks great too. I decided to go with the stock muffler this time. I had a Pitts on the first chippy and it worked well being I had already cut the cowl for the Saito. The Pitts was damaged so I did not want to spend the $80 for a new one. I like the way the stock muffler fits. I do not have to cut anymore than I would have with the Pitts. You don’t have to cut the entire back portion of the cowl like you do for the pits so I like this better. Not sure what I am going to do for a spinner this time. The scheme I want will require a white spinner, so I might go plastic. I added no down thrust.
I have learned that blind nuts and 4-40 bolts are not the best way to hold the cowl on. I have fond that smaller screws work better. They don’t wallow out, and they look good too. So I went with three on each side into the plywood sides and three on top into the ribbing. On my old chippy the four bolts were always giving me trouble. The nine smaller screws worked really well so that’s what I will go with.
By moving the cowl forward it creates plenty of venting in the bottom of the cowl with no additional cutting needed.
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This Chippy is all ready to cover. I like to set up the plane with all linkages installed (elevator, ailerons and throttle) and working before I cover to make sure all is working right and there is nothing that needs to be changed. I won't do the pull-pull until I am in the covering process, the fuel lines and the rest of the electronics will be installed after covering.
Now comes the hard part, figuring out what scheme I want to do. As soon as I figure that out I will paint the cowl. I am thinking of doing a red, white and blue with some black. The top of the wing will be a star burst, red white and blue. The bottom will be white with red stripes for identification (inverted flight). The fuse will have mostly red with the top of the nose being black, maybe some on the bottom too. Then the tail section of the fuse will be white with a tapered red strip from the nose. The fin will be white, and I might do something on the rudder. The top of the stabilizer will be the same as the wing, as will the bottom too.
I installed the elevator servo as close to the outer wall and the 4-40 push rod runs along the side of the fuse down to the tail pined a few times before it reaches the elevator toque rod. I went with the 4-40 rod because it is stiffer, and I can use the weight in the tail section. The tail feathers are all ready to be covered, hinge line works great too!
The aileron linkage is clean and works great. I used the Sullivan horns (my new favorite) with titanium 4-40 rods. I glued in a 3/16 ply hard point in the ailerons for the horn. The landing gear is all mounted and ready to be hooked up once she is covered.
I am going to use Ultra coat for covering.
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Your Chipmunk is really looking good. I especially like how you are hooking up to the rudder and elevator. If I may make a suggestion I would get rid of those quik links and use ball links instead, even on the pull/pull for the rudder. It would be a shame to have to remove the covering if a quik link broke, ball links are almost indestructible. Do you have any idea of what your finished weight will be? I would really like to use the DLE 20 on mine but it may be heavier than I would like.
Keep the info coming
rv9-a
Keep the info coming
rv9-a
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Your Chipmunk is really looking good. I especially like how you are hooking up to the rudder and elevator. If I may make a suggestion I would get rid of those quik links and use ball links instead, even on the pull/pull for the rudder. It would be a shame to have to remove the covering if a quik link broke, ball links are almost indestructible. Do you have any idea of what your finished weight will be? I would really like to use the DLE 20 on mine but it may be heavier than I would like.
Keep the info coming
rv9-a
Your Chipmunk is really looking good. I especially like how you are hooking up to the rudder and elevator. If I may make a suggestion I would get rid of those quik links and use ball links instead, even on the pull/pull for the rudder. It would be a shame to have to remove the covering if a quik link broke, ball links are almost indestructible. Do you have any idea of what your finished weight will be? I would really like to use the DLE 20 on mine but it may be heavier than I would like.
Keep the info coming
rv9-a
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ORIGINAL: rv9-a
Your Chipmunk is really looking good. I especially like how you are hooking up to the rudder and elevator. If I may make a suggestion I would get rid of those quik links and use ball links instead, even on the pull/pull for the rudder. It would be a shame to have to remove the covering if a quik link broke, ball links are almost indestructible. Do you have any idea of what your finished weight will be? I would really like to use the DLE 20 on mine but it may be heavier than I would like.
Keep the info coming
rv9-a
Your Chipmunk is really looking good. I especially like how you are hooking up to the rudder and elevator. If I may make a suggestion I would get rid of those quik links and use ball links instead, even on the pull/pull for the rudder. It would be a shame to have to remove the covering if a quik link broke, ball links are almost indestructible. Do you have any idea of what your finished weight will be? I would really like to use the DLE 20 on mine but it may be heavier than I would like.
Keep the info coming
rv9-a
My finished weight is 10 lb- 13oz pretty close to the last one (under 11 lb) so I am cool with that because I know she will fly great, and she likes wind too.
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OK so where do we start. I covered her with Ultra coat, and went with a traditional star burst on the top pf the wing, red white and blue with an all white fuselage. The tail feathers are the same, the rudder is white. On the bottom I am going with a red and white strip for visual confirmation. I dressed her up with the decals, looks good to me!