Ok. I am getting ready to start building a four star 60 in the next month. I hope to order everything I need to complete the plane in the next week or so and begin building soon after. After I downloaded the manual from sig's website I am getting scared and think I would be better off with an ARF. I am going to build though but feel like I will get lost. Maybe it will less confusing when I have the parts in front of me.

As soon as I start building I will start a build thread.

Another question is the manual says to epoxy the spar dubblelers together. Can I use titebone instead of epox? Also use Titebond original or Titebond 3?

any advise will be appreciated.

I use a similer (wood) glue to titebond.  It will work just fine.  I have read many postings regarding the differant titebond glues.  Bottom line was they all work about the same. 
Dont be worried about building.  My next kit will be the 4*60.  I have heard many good things about that kit.  If you have the engine, servos, covering, you will be surprised at how fast it goes together.  Building is very rewarding.  You are gonna love it.

Read this, It will give you a good idea of what to expect and it will put a lot of your fears to rest

[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=1196]Kit Building 101[/link]

I am ordering everything but the engine in one swing. So I will order the engine (probably Magnum 91) when I get to that step. I plan on using a magnetic building board.

I hope I enjoy building but am nervous. When looking at the manual I don't under stand the dihedral brace but will learn in time.

When you have the plans in hand there is a page or two that will show you all the parts and what type of wood they are made of. It helps to ID the parts before you ever open up the glue bottle. When I teach building I have the student read the instructions and look at the photos three times before the wood is ever pulled out of the box. There are several places I wouldn't use wood glue in place of epoxy. Others will disagree but I feel I get a much better bond with epoxy. Little places like the LG block, fire wall, tabs that the aileron plates mount to.
The 4* 60 is a wonderful build, I have been using it to teach building with for years.

Read the manual several times taking note of any pictures. Being your first build the terminology used by SIG in their manual may not be what you'd call it. Also, I'm pretty obsessive about planning stuff out before I cut into the wood. Guess that it's due to lousy short term memory. As a result I make my own list of steps - keeps the manual clean of notes in the margin.

Only caution on use of Titebond (original, II or III) or any of the other aliphatic resins (water based wood glues). Water will warp wood. So make darn sure that you allow plenty of time for the water to evaporate when gluing things up as well as weighting things down. This is doubly critical for those lil ole wing spars. Some builders keep free weights around just to ensure that things remain straight.

Looking forward to participating in your build thread!

If you are 100% sure you have excellent wood/wood contact then wood glue or thick CA is fine, but there are some places where you don't or don't know if you do, like gluing in a dihedral brace on a wing with the center section already sheeted. Epoxy will bridge a small gap and be very strong, wood glue will not.

My original post I was wondering if I could use titebond on the spar dubblers or use epoxy like the manual states.

Also is elmars wood good or gorilla wood glue the same as titebond?

It's not rocket science! With Sig's guidance on one hand and all these helpful types ready to comment with their experiences, how can you go wrong?
Have a blast!
My advice: don't sweat minor inaccuracies, like a wrinkle in the covering. Perfection isn't required and building skills come as you build kits one after another. Each one will turn out a little better than the last.
I've noticed if I build the fuselage first there's no telling how long it'll take to build the rest! On the other hand, if I get the wings and tail surfaces done first the whole project continues quickly.
I mark each piece with its part number while still in the die-cut sheet according to the diagram provided.
A 4-Star airplane is going to be a great reward for your efforts!

The similer glue I mentioned previously is the Gorilla glue. I use it for Fuse box construction.  Doublers.  But not where I want all the strength I can get.  I use epoxy to join the wing halves to each other  and the verticle stabilizer to the fuse.  And the firewall.  I have never had a joint seperate.  See if you can find a syringe to shot the glue into tight spaces.  I get mine at my LHS.  I have also had Walmart give them to me for free.  But they were not hobby syringes and were too small. 

See below

TiteBond II

<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="611"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td width="105"><font size="2" face="Arial">Physical Properties (Typical)</font></td> <td width="5"></td> <td width="486"> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="486"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Type</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Cross-linking polyvinyl acetate</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Calculated VOC: </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">5.5 g/L</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">State</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Liquid</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Weight/gallon </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">9.1 lbs.</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Color</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Honey cream</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Chalk temperature*</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Approx. 55&deg;F.</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Dried film</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Translucent, yellow</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Flashpoint </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">&gt;200&deg;F.</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Solids </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">48%</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Freeze/thaw stability </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Stable</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Viscosity </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">4,000 cps</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">pH </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">3.0</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Storage life </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">12 months in tightly closed containers at 75&deg;F.</font></td> <td width="6"></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <font size="1" face="Arial">*Chalk temperature indicates the lowest recommended temperature at which the glue, air and materials can be during application, to assure a good bond.</font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccc99"> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="15"></td> <td width="596" colspan="3"></td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td width="15"></td> <td width="105"><font size="2" face="Arial">Application Guidelines</font></td> <td width="5"></td> <td width="486"><font size="1" face="Arial">Application temperature</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Above 55&deg;F.</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Open assembly time</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">5 minutes (70&deg;F./50%RH)</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Total assembly time</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">10-15 minutes (70&deg;F./50%RH)</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Minimum required spread</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Approximately 6 mils or 250 square feet per gallon</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Required clamping pressure </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Enough to bring joints tightly together (generally, 100-150 psi for softwoods, 125-175 psi for medium woods and 175-250 psi for hardwoods)</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Methods of application </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Plastic bottles for fine applications; glue may also be spread with a roller spreader or brush.</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Cleanup </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Damp cloth while glue is wet. Scrape off and sand dried excess.</font>
</td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccc99"> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="15"></td> <td width="596" colspan="3"></td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td width="15"></td> <td width="105"><font size="2" face="Arial">Bond Strength ASTM D-905
(On Hard Maple)</font></td> <td width="5"></td> <td width="486"> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="400"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="200"><font size="1" face="Arial">Temperature</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">Strength psi</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">% Wood Failure</font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#000000"> <td width="400" colspan="3"></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="200"><font size="1" face="Arial">Room Temperature</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">3,750</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">72</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="200"><font size="1" face="Arial">150&deg;F. Overnight</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">1,750</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">6</font></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
TiteBond III

<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="611"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td width="105"><font size="2" face="Arial">Physical Properties (Typical)</font></td> <td width="5"></td> <td width="486"> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="486"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Type</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Advanced Proprietary Polymer</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Calculated VOC: </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">5.6 g/L</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">State</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Liquid</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Weight/gallon</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">9.22 lbs</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Color</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Tan</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Chalk temperature*</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Approx. 47&deg;F</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Dried film</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Light brown</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Flashpoint</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">&gt;200&deg;F.</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Solids</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">52%</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Freeze/thaw stability</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Stable</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Viscosity</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">4,200 cps</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">pH</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">2.5</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Storage life</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">12 months in tightly closed containers below 75&deg;F.</font></td> <td width="6"></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <font size="1" face="Arial">*Chalk temperature indicates the lowest recommended temperature at which the glue, air and materials can be during application, to assure a good bond.</font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccc99"> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="15"></td> <td width="596" colspan="3"></td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td width="15"></td> <td width="105"><font size="2" face="Arial">Application Guidelines</font></td> <td width="5"></td> <td width="486"><font size="1" face="Arial">Application temperature</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Above 47&deg;F.</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Open assembly time</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">10 minutes (70&deg;F./50%RH)</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Total assembly time</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">20-25minutes (70&deg;F./50%RH)</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Minimum required spread</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Approximately 6 mils or 250 square feet per gallon</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Required clamping pressure </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Enough to bring joints tightly together (generally, 100-150 psi for softwoods, 125-175 psi for medium woods and 175-250 psi for hardwoods)</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Methods of application </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Plastic bottles for fine applications; glue may also be spread with a roller spreader or brush.</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Cleanup </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Damp cloth while glue is wet. Scrape off and sand dried excess.</font>
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Patent Pending</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial"></font>
</td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccc99"> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="15"></td> <td width="596" colspan="3"></td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td width="15"></td> <td width="105"><font size="2" face="Arial">Bond Strength ASTM D-905
(On Hard Maple)</font></td> <td width="5"></td> <td width="486"> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="400"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="200"><font size="1" face="Arial">Temperature</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">Strength psi</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">% Wood Failure</font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#000000"> <td width="400" colspan="3"></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="200"><font size="1" face="Arial">Room Temperature</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">4000</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">57</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="200"><font size="1" face="Arial"></font></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Original TiteBond

<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="611"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td width="105"><font size="2" face="Arial">Physical Properties (Typical)</font></td> <td width="5"></td> <td width="486"> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="486"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Type</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Aliphatic resin emulsion</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Calculated VOC:</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">10.7 g/L</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">State</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Liquid</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Weight/gallon </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">9.2 lbs.</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Color</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Yellow</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Chalk temperature*</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Approx. 50&deg;F.</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Dried film</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Translucent</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Flashpoint </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">&gt;200&deg;F.</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Solids </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">46%</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Freeze/thaw stability </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Stable</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Viscosity </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">3,200 cps</font></td> <td width="6"></td> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">pH </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">4.6</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="240"><font size="1" face="Arial">Storage life </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">12 months in tightly closed containers at 75&deg;F</font></td> <td width="6"></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <font size="1" face="Arial">*Chalk temperature indicates the lowest recommended temperature at which the glue, air and materials
can be during application, to assure a good bond.</font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccc99"> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="15"></td> <td width="596" colspan="3"></td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td width="15"></td> <td width="105"><font size="2" face="Arial">Application Guidelines</font></td> <td width="5"></td> <td width="486"><font size="1" face="Arial">Application temperature</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Above 50&deg;F.</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Open assembly time</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">5 minutes (70&deg;F./50%RH)</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Total assembly time</font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">10-15 minutes (70&deg;F./50%RH)</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Minimum required spread </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Approximately 6 mils or 250 square feet per gallon</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Required clamping pressure </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Enough to bring joints tightly together (generally, 100-150 psi for softwoods, 125-175 psi for medium woods and 175-250 psi for hardwoods)</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Methods of application </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Plastic bottles for fine applications; glue may also be spread with a roller spreader or brush.</font>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Cleanup </font><font color="#666666" size="1" face="Arial">Damp cloth while glue is wet. Scrape off and sand dried excess.</font>
</td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#cccc99"> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="15"></td> <td width="596" colspan="3"></td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td width="15"></td> <td width="105"><font size="2" face="Arial">Bond Strength ASTM D-905
(On Hard Maple)</font></td> <td width="5"></td> <td width="486"> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="400"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="200"><font size="1" face="Arial">Temperature</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">Strength psi</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">% Wood Failure</font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#000000"> <td width="400" colspan="3"></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="200"><font size="1" face="Arial">Room Temperature</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">3,600</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">77</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="200"><font size="1" face="Arial">150&deg;F. Overnight</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">1,600</font></td> <td width="100" align="center"><font size="1" face="Arial">10</font></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

I use original TiteBond andTiteBond II, and avoid super glues like the plague.

Generally there is a reason for using epoxy though, and I don't use an Alphatic resin in place of epoxy.

They might be, but Elmars nor Gorilla glue will publish their specs, which can only suggest that they don't perform up to Titebond specs.

Gorilla's exact quote was "We do not publish specifications for our products for competitve reasons." They wont even tell you exactly what it is, i.e. type of resin, or even if it is a resin glue.

Niether will Elmers.

I kind of like to know exactly what Iam using so Ijust stick with Titebond Original and Titebond II. Idon't like Titebond III.

Check out Airfield Models discussion about the types of useful adhesives. The site has plenty of other good stuff.

Thanks Minn flyer that picture has helped a lot.