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Old 04-12-2012, 07:26 PM
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Default Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

Having recently completed a somewhat long term build on a highly modified kit I am looking forward to starting my next project, a Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28.

I will, of course, make some modifications as I go but I am hoping to buildthe kit more or less stock. I will be going over the plans for the next week or so and after my review I will make a decision on how to power the model. I have a new in box Zenoah G-26 purchased but not used on my last build vs. an electric powered model. I am growing really attracted to the electric side of the hobby so I will likely look at how I can get an electric system into the plane first and if I determine electric is not an option then I will default to the Zenoah as a second plan.

Here is what the kit looked like when it arrived.... Contents of the box are in good shape and were packed nicely. I'm not sure how the cat got in there.

Stay tuned!

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Old 04-12-2012, 09:07 PM
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:02 AM
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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

Me as well! Good luck SDP...Buy a plane and get a cat, good deal.
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another good build on the way

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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

After looking over the plans and after I played with some battery configurations on top of the plans I decided an electric variant is a possible choice for this model.

If I install the batteries in a vertical configuration they will fit easily into the cowl. If I make the top portion of the cowl removable then I will be able to access the batteries. This will also leave the sides available for mounting the cowl. My initial plan is to incorporate a stop block into the removable portion of the cowl. This stop block will act as a keeper for each battery which will be secured to trays slid into some vertical rails. All this will be on the firewall where I am sure some weight will be needed.

The model already has a "Cooling Tunnel" built into the fuselage at the bottom of the firewall. In the photo the batteries are all the way down to this "Tunnel". My plan is to make a secondary firewall that will have the mounting rails for the batteries and the actual motor mounted to it. This secondary firewall will bolt onto the firewall built into the model. The stock formers in the area of the firewall are balsa and not up to the task of holding the weight of the batteries.

If you look at the photo of the batteries you can see the curved area just above them. This is the section I plan to have removable to access the batteries.

The second to last photo, of the ruler on the plans, show there is easily enough ground clearance for just about any prop.

Decisions, Decisions!

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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

hi
what about weight would she be very nose heavy?
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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

From what I have seen you need everything up to the firewall plus a good amount of lead (In Most Models)

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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build


ORIGINAL: rye

hi
what about weight would she be very nose heavy?
Pretty much any plane that the full scale had a round engine in will come out tail heavy in a model, just a fact of life builders should know in advance. Most WWI planes have very short nose moments.
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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

Rick had his Batts up forward of the Firewall on his WW1 Electric DR1. When you make your next BUSA order go ahead and order a second, or even third set of landing gear wire. They sell the replacement for a reasonable price, about $10. While your doing your structural soldering you can make a spare set. It can be changed in five minutes.
A few guys do the bungee suspension, but some that have gone to all the trouble say its not worth the effort.
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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

Manfred and Lothar say they are looking forward to having some WW1 company at the field.
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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

The optional Aluminium Cowl should add a little weight.
Old 04-15-2012, 05:57 AM
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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

Here is what the gas motor installation would look like, simple with no issues to work around.....

What do you guys think? Gas or Electric? What would you rather see?

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Gasser.
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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

I would go gas, with the G-26 side mounted carb you will not have the issue of recessing the firewall I had on the DRI. I am guessing you will still be mounting everything else up against the back of the firewall for balance.
I will be watching with interest.
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Default RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build

So far that is two votes for gas.... I am starting to think the Zenoah is the right choice.

I just ordered a new backplate for my Zenoah because the one that is on the motor now was modified (Cut) to fit my Cub prior to changing that build into an electric. The motor was never run on that model because I change to electric mid-build.

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Gas for sure!!!!
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if it were me choosing between gas or electric, I would go with gas.
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I think it needs one of these: 7 Cyl 77cc 4 Stroke Glow Radial Engine by Evolution Engines:-)
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Looks like gas wins!!!

I'll go with the Zenoah G-26 (Electronic Ignition).

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Shoot I know I'm late but my vote is certainly electric NOT !!!! some noise might be nice for this one

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