Where have all the builders gone
12-06-2022, 06:53 AM
#1553
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When I got into R/C airplanes in the 80's, people would spend all winter building something. When spring came they would show up at the field. "Bill's putting the first flight on his Pica Duelist twin". We'd all get around and watch. Bill would be a little bit nervous cause he spent time crafting it. Bill had skin in the game and it was his choice of colors and features and his heart in the airplane. Weather the flight was good or bad, it was fun. Today someone brings a new ARF. They take off, crash it go get another. No body even bothers watching. Many of them fly more like toys instead of airplanes.
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12-06-2022, 11:58 AM
#1554
When I got into R/C airplanes in the 80's, people would spend all winter building something. When spring came they would show up at the field. "Bill's putting the first flight on his Pica Duelist twin". We'd all get around and watch. Bill would be a little bit nervous cause he spent time crafting it. Bill had skin in the game and it was his choice of colors and features and his heart in the airplane. Weather the flight was good or bad, it was fun. Today someone brings a new ARF. They take off, crash it go get another. No body even bothers watching. Many of them fly more like toys instead of airplanes.
I see no good point in running another down because of his or hers choice of interest in our hobby/sport.
Bob
12-06-2022, 04:16 PM
#1556
12-07-2022, 07:05 AM
#1558
I’ve just read so many post by elitist types as your self that it’s old, do you realize those ARFs are in large for folks that can’t build and those that shouldn’t build if you know what I mean, and they have brought a lot of new young and old people in helping keeping it all alive.
Bob
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12-09-2022, 04:22 AM
#1563
Hey Sensei. Rich Mowery here. Had the buddy with the 540 Carden Edge of yours that had the 200 in plane. You hit it right on the head as always bob.
I have a custom build I saved a buddy on a 40% Carden 300. Thread was started by Crash & Burn Flying Giants. I did some crazy mods to that plane.
Time has flew by for us Bob. If only people new the builder you are/Have done in time.
Yes WE are still out here. I happen to be building an old Yellow Aircraft P-47D razor back now at the time. (Well us builders call Assemble)..
Also Have a Dalton 100cc Extra 260 Build on the table with the fuse almost done. I'm so old now Bob, I fart Balsa dust.
As I say now days Lo & Slow. Little bit here and there. Plane is done.
I have a custom build I saved a buddy on a 40% Carden 300. Thread was started by Crash & Burn Flying Giants. I did some crazy mods to that plane.
Time has flew by for us Bob. If only people new the builder you are/Have done in time.
Yes WE are still out here. I happen to be building an old Yellow Aircraft P-47D razor back now at the time. (Well us builders call Assemble)..
Also Have a Dalton 100cc Extra 260 Build on the table with the fuse almost done. I'm so old now Bob, I fart Balsa dust.
As I say now days Lo & Slow. Little bit here and there. Plane is done.
I hope you are doing well old friend, I am sorry I just read this post, I don’t come to RCU much anymore, just to many old school elitist type personalities, and would be builders around here.
Bob
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gow589 (12-23-2022)
12-24-2022, 06:13 AM
#1566
Vertical Grimmace said: "Why does this not surprise me? "
Most likely it's because your judgmental? That would be my guess, your answer above certainly indicates that. Feel free to write and explain how the way I enjoy the hobby is somehow less important than the way you do.
Most likely it's because your judgmental? That would be my guess, your answer above certainly indicates that. Feel free to write and explain how the way I enjoy the hobby is somehow less important than the way you do.
Instead of paying other folks to live my life for me...I prefer teach myself to do as much for myself and to accomplish as much as I can by my own wits, talents and efforts.
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gow589 (12-24-2022)
12-24-2022, 06:38 AM
#1567
I've got a .030 cubic inch diesel engine that needs a new home.
The design challenge here is to make the best possible use of such limited power.
I don't want to pay someone else to do that for me...where is the fun in doing that...?
I think the lack of "builders" is definitely due to the fact that people are generally lazy and are always looking at ways to conserve energy..
The popularity of RTFs feeds on this basic instinct and this is "where all of the builders have gone".
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gow589 (12-24-2022)
12-24-2022, 07:28 AM
#1568
Lazy people think that paying others to do the hobby for them is a "hobby" but others who know better see it for what it is which is nothing more than a "pass time".
Instead of paying other folks to live my life for me...I prefer teach myself to do as much for myself and to accomplish as much as I can by my own wits, talents and efforts.
Instead of paying other folks to live my life for me...I prefer teach myself to do as much for myself and to accomplish as much as I can by my own wits, talents and efforts.
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gow589 (12-24-2022)
12-24-2022, 09:14 AM
#1569
Thanks for the inspirational post...!
I've got a .030 cubic inch diesel engine that needs a new home.
The design challenge here is to make the best possible use of such limited power.
I don't want to pay someone else to do that for me...where is the fun in doing that...?
I think the lack of "builders" is definitely due to the fact that people are generally lazy and are always looking at ways to conserve energy..
The popularity of RTFs feeds on this basic instinct and this is "where all of the builders have gone".
I've got a .030 cubic inch diesel engine that needs a new home.
The design challenge here is to make the best possible use of such limited power.
I don't want to pay someone else to do that for me...where is the fun in doing that...?
I think the lack of "builders" is definitely due to the fact that people are generally lazy and are always looking at ways to conserve energy..
The popularity of RTFs feeds on this basic instinct and this is "where all of the builders have gone".
Lazy people think that paying others to do the hobby for them is a "hobby" but others who know better see it for what it is which is nothing more than a "pass time".
Instead of paying other folks to live my life for me...I prefer teach myself to do as much for myself and to accomplish as much as I can by my own wits, talents and efforts.
Instead of paying other folks to live my life for me...I prefer teach myself to do as much for myself and to accomplish as much as I can by my own wits, talents and efforts.
Merry Christmas to all!
Bob
12-24-2022, 09:34 AM
#1570
obviously they are not lazy, they work to afford buying other peoples labor to to be involved in our hobby/sport. Did you buy your car, or build it, as most you probably bought it because you wanted to just drive, they bought an Arf because they just want to fly…
Merry Christmas to all!
Bob
Merry Christmas to all!
Bob
HA HA...!!!
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gow589 (12-24-2022)
12-24-2022, 09:51 AM
#1572
When I got into R/C airplanes in the 80's, people would spend all winter building something. When spring came they would show up at the field. "Bill's putting the first flight on his Pica Duelist twin". We'd all get around and watch. Bill would be a little bit nervous cause he spent time crafting it. Bill had skin in the game and it was his choice of colors and features and his heart in the airplane. Weather the flight was good or bad, it was fun. Today someone brings a new ARF. They take off, crash it go get another. No body even bothers watching. Many of them fly more like toys instead of airplanes.
The first Giant Scale planes I saw back then were all "home engineered" with what was available. The excitement and anticipation that went with the first test flights was part of the experience.
RC Pattern .was already well established and many of the best flyers built their own using the latest "exotic" techniques to save an ounce here and there .
Many of the club members brought their partly finished planes to club meetings and some were people who had experience in full scale aeronautics.
This hobby can be a full fledged education, sport and a real adventure if you want it to be.
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gow589 (12-24-2022)
12-24-2022, 10:18 AM
#1573
Those were the days when participation in a club was much more interesting.
The first Giant Scale planes I saw back then were all "home engineered" with what was available. The excitement and anticipation that went with the first test flights was part of the experience.
RC Pattern .was already well established and many of the best flyers built their own using the latest "exotic" techniques to save an ounce here and there .
Many of the club members brought their partly finished planes to club meetings and some were people who had experience in full scale aeronautics.
This hobby can be a full fledged education, sport and a real adventure if you want it to be.
The first Giant Scale planes I saw back then were all "home engineered" with what was available. The excitement and anticipation that went with the first test flights was part of the experience.
RC Pattern .was already well established and many of the best flyers built their own using the latest "exotic" techniques to save an ounce here and there .
Many of the club members brought their partly finished planes to club meetings and some were people who had experience in full scale aeronautics.
This hobby can be a full fledged education, sport and a real adventure if you want it to be.
I also believe to live and let live.
Bob
12-24-2022, 12:14 PM
#1575
but no more Rust Bucket / Basket Cases for this old man to tackle.
It's all the nasty body work that I'm just too old to deal with
My plan is to buy a decently restored Model A Ford....then sell off the stock running gear and so this limits the work to just installing the modern mechanical stuff..[which is fun].
Of course I might need to lie to the Seller a little bit if he asks me what my plans are for the car that he has lovingly restored to original condition.
I'll just tell him that I plan to drive it and to enjoy it "AS IS"..[which isn't too much of a lie if I drive the car home "as is" before dismantling it, chopping the top, channeling it, gutting the original interior, etc....]
