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Old 10-07-2019, 05:51 AM
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Default Volunteer for youth and need suggestion on small kits planes

Hello, I have been in RC for a while but have only built one kit long back and the rest have been small and Giant Scale Arf. I am a Pilot and I teach aviation to youth ages 12ish 15ish. I am trying to add in more hands-on activities that will allow me to keep them engaged instead of lectures all the time.
I am familiar with kits, but I really want something that is CHEAP!!! Would it be better to get plans and get all the wood myself or get a kit that includes all the material?

I want something that is small too! Something that a small electric can go in probably a 480 size or smaller. I am thinking something no bigger than a ParkZone Super Cub size, (1300mm/ 51in). Based on my research I think the 1300mm/1100/920mm size would be good for them, but those seem to be more of foamies and not wood kits? Where can I find wood kits/plans in this size?

Also, I am not fully familiar with electric size because I am more into gas and nitro so I am REALLY open to suggestions on electrics.
Old 10-08-2019, 09:25 PM
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I'm certainly no kind of expert in the smaller planes, and I haven't dealt at all with electric, but I've got a few suggestions you might think about.

#1 would be the 1994-era SIG LT-25, kit #RC74. It's designed as a nitro plane but many have been built as electric. It's a trainer with box-type construction, so construction is pretty easy and straight forward, and youth should be able to fly it rather well. It's a bit bigger than you're thinking - wingspan is 63", and it's 3-channel, but those things actually help in the early stages of learning how to fly. To just see what it's like and maybe download the build manual, take a look at my page https://wanderings-ds.jimdo.com/sig-rc-kits-41-60/ - it's just over half way down the page. The SIG website shows it at https://sigmfg.com/collections/sig-k...adet-lt-25-kit

#2 might be the SIG 4-Star EP-20, kit #RC106. This one's designed as both nitro & electric but she's no "trainer", wingspan's 48". Also has box-type construction. It's on my site, same page as the LT-25 but farther down. SIG website has it at https://sigmfg.com/collections/sig-k...star-20-ep-kit

#3 might be the SIG Rascal-C, kit #RC80. Originally designed in 1947, the kit's designed as nitro & electric, wingspan's 49". This plane's a bit more of a project to build, basically a box-type but with some detail work that youngsters could get into rather well. In my site it's on the same page as the 4-Star and LT25, about half way between them. You can download the instruction manual right there too. In the SIG site, it's at https://sigmfg.com/collections/sig-k...sig-rascal-kit

#4 would be the 1980-era SIG Hummer, Kit #RC50. It's designed as a 1/2a plane, wingspan is 34", and is certainly not a trainer but I'm positive it would take to electric power quite well. To buy it, I'd suggest going directly to https://sigmfg.com/collections/sig-k...sig-hummer-kit but to just take a look at the sheet plans, take a look at my page https://wanderings-ds.jimdo.com/sig-rc-kits-41-60/ - the Hummer's about half-way down.

I'm sure there are other kits out there too that are more along the lines you're looking for - easily built trainers. Hopefully, someone will come along and pass some more ideas to you.

You're doing a great thing here - I wish you all the success in the world.
Old 10-09-2019, 04:21 AM
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I have had a lot of experience with kids in Cub Scouts and grade school with the AMA Delta Dart, aka AMA cub. It is rubber powered free fight and is built with a safety razor blade and white glue. They can built in one session, especially if the leader makes the dihedral joint with medium CA. They are cheap when purchased in bulk from AMA. They could be used to whet the kids' appetite before doing the R/C trainer.

I have built many planes from kits, plans, and scratch. A kit will likely cost less than a plans built model and it will save the hassle of sourcing everything you need.

Balsa USA has a trainer kit designed to introduce newcomers to building. I have no direct experience with it, and it may be bigger than what you desire. It would not hurt to check it out.

Good luck with your work with the kids!!

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Old 10-16-2019, 02:23 AM
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Greetings from Finland

It is great that somebody is willing to work with kids and trying to get them involved in our excellent hobby.

One source where you can almost limitless amount of different drawings is.
https://outerzone.co.uk/
Big and small old school and modern.

Other option is to do it completely other way
https://zoomport.eu/shop/RC-Kits-and...00.aspx?page=8
That is just an example, there is other manufacturers. That is great fun to have aerial combat with those planes either in- or outdoors. Just tie piece of paper serpentine behind the fighter. Then launch five to seven planes in the air and thrill is there. They are practically inbreakable and if there is damage then repiar is easy super glue and kicker. And it do not have to be only kids, it is very addictive. Only caveat is, that try to keep performance equal between planes more or less same battery capacity (2C), engine and propellor.

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Old 10-17-2019, 11:16 AM
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Thanks for the input guys
Old 12-05-2019, 09:34 AM
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For students, to keep the costs down, you may want to check out rubber powered kits and possibly have a RC trainer for all to learn on. Sig still sells free flights and RC kits. Also check out their Herr kits which include a small 3 channel sail plane, a Piper Cub, etc. Good luck!
https://sigmfg.com/
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How about this:
Buy a Kadet MkII kit
Use it as a pattern and make more kits using it
Conversely, use the kit to make hard plastic patterns/templates from and then get the materials to build several. All you would need at that point would be engine mounts for whatever power you go with, motor, cowl and landing gear for each plane being built. You can order most of that from Sig or, if you want a more durable cowl, from Fiberglass Specialties as they have one for a MKII that fits a four stroke
Old 12-10-2019, 07:30 AM
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I teach a middle school engineering class for 8th graders which includes a flight unit. A lot of the answer to your question depends on what you want your goal is with the kids. I think you can't beat rubber free flight for teaching building and flight forces as those planes simply will not fly if they aren't straight and trimmed right. RC is more exciting and has more instant fun to it, especially when you show up with already built planes. It's great for learning skills including listening, dynamic thinking, systems thinking, and hand/eye coordination.

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