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Old 10-16-2007, 02:23 AM
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I just started my Don Smith P-51. I have one half of the fuselage laid up and glued on the building board. I would like to hear from anyone that has built one of these before, who may know of any pitfalls to watch out for. I plan on a Sachs 8.4 inline twin. Any thoughts on fiber glass and paint finishes?

Thanks for any input.

Richard
Old 10-16-2007, 11:04 AM
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Default RE: Don Smith P-51D

I would like to know as well. Are you doing a build thread on this??? I plan on starting mine when I finish my Nosen 51 and 50 other projects

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Old 10-16-2007, 02:33 PM
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Well, I would if I thought anyone was interested. I wish you had yours started, as I would like to compare notes. The first half of the fuselage went real nice. As long as you use your square to keep all lines on the plans lined up with the parts you are working with. The real pain part starts now. Sheeting! Boy do I dislike doing that. But I guess I'll make it through the many compound curves on this airplane. I always do. I just don't like it.

If you are interested, and if I can work out how to post a few pix. on here, I will do that. Any help on the picture posting would help a lot. I am an old man and not very computer oriented. I just barley do get by with one.

Good luck on your other projects.

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Old 10-16-2007, 02:49 PM
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One thing I did do, that I think is note worthy, is to take the plans for the fuselage and the wings (but not the rest of them) down and have them copied onto some better paper. The paper from Don Smith seems to break, when bent. Not tare, but break. Cheap and brittle. So as long as I don't sell or give away the new copies, I am fine. And I think the prints will last me through construction.

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Old 10-16-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default RE: Don Smith P-51D

I need pics lol,

Richard i am about to buy the plans this week and would love to see
how the fuse is comming and cowl, etc, as it is so hard to find pics
for this plane,

Sounds good anyway Richard,

Regards Lee
Old 10-16-2007, 10:46 PM
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Wish I c ould send pix. But the system keeps saying it's overloaded and to try again later. I will try another time.
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another try.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:09 PM
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Well, after all that I got a duplicate. I'll try some more. This is a learning curve for me. So bare with me.
Old 10-16-2007, 11:11 PM
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Two more.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:14 PM
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These pix don't show the sheeting I have started. Just to hold things firm so I can flip this half over and start the other side. But since this worked I will post another picture when I get started on that side, as well as the cowl and the canopy and the exhaust stacks.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default RE: Don Smith P-51D

Looking great whats the material you are building with ,,it looks like ply to me is that correct will be watching with enthursiasim I see you are using cling wrap on plane I use that clear vinyl it totally protects plane and is as clear as glass all ther best on your build keep them pictures coming
Old 10-16-2007, 11:27 PM
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THANK LOOKS GREAT RICHARD, HOW HAVE YOU FOUND THE PLANS TO WORK FROM,
BUT AGAIN LOOKING VERY GOOD, HAVE YOU GOT YOU COWL AND CANOPY.

REGARDS LEE
Old 10-16-2007, 11:52 PM
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Ok, here are the pix of the cowl, canopy and exhaust stacks (Just infront of the cowl. They are still taped together) and the air intake.

The plans are ok so far. But with out any instructions, I think it is safe to say this is not a kit for a beginner. In fact, some bit of experiance is a good thing from what I see so far.

Richard

Oh ya. I put this stuff in front of my Top Flite 83 inch 182, just for size comparison.
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Default RE: Don Smith P-51D

THEY ARE SOME REALLY GOOD PARTS YOU HAVE THERE, AM DEFFINATLY GOING TO GET
THIS SET OF PLANS, EXCEPT DON IS SO HARD TO EMAIL LOL.

DID YOU GET YOUR PLANS AND PARTS FROM HIM DIRECTLY.

THIS IS GONNA BE A BIG PLAN

REGARDS LEE
Old 10-17-2007, 01:45 AM
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Yes, I got them all directly from him. The kit is a "Precision Cut kits". I bought it on ebay from a guy who said he didn't have the time to invest. I do think that Precision Cut Kits could have used better balsa for sheeting. The fuselage formers and all the wing ribs are 1/8th ply. It all seems good. It's just the sheeting. But I can live with it.

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Old 10-17-2007, 02:22 AM
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ohh awsome, Being i live in aus, im not sure if ill get the kitcutter and pck to do it as my postage could really $$$
but an definatly looking into , makes the job so much more simple.

What retracts do uo think you will use,

Lee.
Old 10-17-2007, 02:48 AM
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I made a mistake. The name is "Precision Cut Kits". I will most likely order the retracts from Don Smith Plans. Their advertisement on the plans, says they carry them.
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i was led to belive they are sierra giant scale ones, look very nice that is forsure.
i think abouy 6-3/4in wheels and about 7 inch spinner does that look right.
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The wheels on my plans measure seven inches. And yes the spinner is a seven inch unit. Don Smith sells them for 185.00. They are machined aluminum.

This is a place to get 1/4 scale P-51 retracts too. http://www.sierragiant.com/prod13.html
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Thanks some big wheels and spinner, i like the detail on the cowl for the vent
never seen it on a scratch build plan/cowl, nice touch,was actually wondering how i was going to put the piece in lol
so are you going to keep all the control surface controls in the fuse wings stab etc. for that scale look.

Im pretty sure the wings will have enought room to house it too as well
as the stab.flaps will be easy to do, do you know yet how many servos you will run
in each surface.

Im just about to order my plans and accessories, i am looking to run a 3w 150b2, inline twin
so i can turn a nice 4 big 4 blade prop Should look and sounds magic, esp. with a scale exhaust.

Thanks Rich,

Lee
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I thought someone might get a kick out of this. Especially the master builders out there. One of which I am not. To paraphrase an old saying by the "Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers", Tape will get you through times without clamps, better then clamps will get you through times without tape. Well, it's like this,,,,Ya gotta use whatcha got! One question though. Just how did we form a civilization before tape?


gtstcoupe: Hay Lee, trust me when I say there is more then enough room in the wings and stab. and vert. fin to put anything you may want. Just for grins I checked out the room to put in a min. servo for the trim tabs. ha ha ha, plenty of room. If I had one of those 378 channel xmtrs, I might give that a try. But no, I don't and I won't. But you could. I will be using seven 1/4 scale servos. Not counting throt. and gear.

I will no doubt still be building this when you get started. It will be interesting to follow your project.

Rich.

This kit is laser cut. That is why a lot of the edge smudges are seen. It's just smoke.






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Oh ya, to answer your question, I plan on using one servo for each control surface. And of course throt. and retracts. The latest additions to my radio collection are the 2.4gig module for my Fut. 7UAP, and the Fut. 2.4 gig six channel T6EX. The rest of my xmtrs are 4, 5, and 6 channel 72mc. stuff. So If I get to crazy with channel usage, I would have to do a heavy invest in another radio, or use both of these. Which I have seen done. I have had so many xmtrs, that I hate to spend money on any more. I had thirteen of them here a while back, but I have been selling them on ebay just to get ride of them. Still have six or seven. Say I couldn't interest you in a good Jr,,,,,oh never mind.

One thing that would be way cool, is an on board starter. But there is another channel. Or two if you have a kill switch, I guess. I have only seen them in ad's.

Well, back to the glue bottle. As you can see, I like to use plenty, then worry about clean up later.

Rich

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Wow looking great rich,
Yeah i carnt wait to get mine in so i can start assembelly
i wil also look at at laser cut short kit, to get the big stuff out the way.

I actually have a jr xp662 , love it even tho it does not doo a whole lotta
stuff its is still a nice radio Ill be using pcm for mine

I think remote start is very cool , i actually have it on my car lol

Ill have to start calling you transmitter man with that many lol
I thought there would be lots of room for every thing.

are you doing a scale retract for the tail wheel as well
nothing like a lotta glue, im the same, i thinking i may do the bulkheads in
z-poxy as i have heaps of it lol, tho trusty wood glue works well.
altho i think i may need my poxy for the glassing of it aswell.

p.s , Loving the pics

Thanks rich.

Lee
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I am going to try my hand at glassing mine too. I have never done that with an airplane before. I hope I don't screw it up. I did build a 42 foot fiberglass sail boat when I was young. So I do know something about glass it's self. I just don't know about the airplane aspect.
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Yeah me too never glasssed a plane before, i belive you use about 1/2 oz cloth and go
from there. has there been much progress over the past few days.

how many hours has it taken you to get the fuse to where is is now.

Thanks rich,

LEE

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