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Old 07-03-2009, 11:51 PM
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Default RE: Great Planes 40 PETE N POKE Sport Build!

Tell me about it. That's one reason the plane has been sitting on the shelf so long. When you refer to the August issue of MA, as in August of 2009?
I may just take the plunge and go for it. Music wire might look wierd. But it's worth looking into!

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To rebuild the wing struts you would need to do major surgery in the fus where they are epoxyed in. Might I suggest you make the new struts out of music wire. In the August Issue of "Model Aviation" there is a good artical on just how to do this.

The wing incidence is 1 degree positive in relation to the horizontal stab that is set at set at 0 degrees.

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Old 07-09-2009, 08:25 PM
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I know the ASP engines are made at same plant as magnums. Have a .52 4 s,runs great,swings a 12x6 ma like nobodys business. Only problem, had a hard time getting it to work on my pete n poke. Throttlr arm clearence. F-1 former to tall. Shows a .52 4 s in construction book but no help on how to use it. If you figure it out let me know.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:31 PM
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Mark, is that thing airworthy yet, you have all weekend to get that thing up to speed so I can see how it flies
Old 07-12-2009, 05:58 PM
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Todd,

I will be ready to go. Just make sure you bring a plane down with you. Looking forward to it, It has been almost two years since we got to fly together.

See ya buddy!
Old 07-14-2009, 11:40 PM
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I just finished the frameup on my pete n poke, ready for sanding. I realy didn't care for the wing cradle myself so I bent a 3/4'' wide by 1/16'' thick piece of aliminum to fit the inside of the cradle pieces and epoxied it in. I had to modify the pockets in the fuse a little but it looks prety good. I hope this will give a little more resiliance to it.
Old 08-09-2009, 12:27 AM
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[X(]CAUTION!!!!!!!!! PAY CLOSE ATTENTION WHEN YOU BUILD THE TRUSSES THAT HOLD ON THAT BIG WING......ITS A VERY WEAK POINT IN THIS KIT........MY WING CAME OFF ON MAIDEN FLIGHT.....BAD DESIGN........I WOULD NEVER BUILD ANOTHER ONE.......(SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE).......
Old 08-11-2009, 02:11 PM
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how about a flight report i have been following along with your build it looks great i also just got my kit last week was thinking of using a 56 satio or 70 os for power would the 56 be enought
Old 08-11-2009, 05:22 PM
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Default RE: Great Planes 40 PETE N POKE Sport Build!

Sorry about your Pete edmoor. I have one with a Saito 56. It flies nice, but different due to the high wing. I like it very much and am very satisfied with the performance.
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Old 08-11-2009, 07:30 PM
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Get that throttle connected Stickman???
I can snap a pic of my Father's setup for ya......
Old 08-15-2009, 10:35 PM
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Default RE: Great Planes 40 PETE N POKE Sport Build!

Howdy all,
I had started posting my build here but got behind on the pics. I have completed my PNP so I thought I would post the completed pics.
I did modify the kit.

Moved the hatch to the top. The entire area front of the cabin struts is the top hatch. This was done so no hatch would be on the bottom for this plane will have floats in the near future.

Did pull-pull for the rudder and the elevator. Note the outside bellcranks for the two elevator halves.

Installed functional wing struts going from the bottom of the fus to the middle of each wing panel. This was for the stress of float flying and to help hold the wing to the fus.

Reinforces the Cabin Struts with hardwood triangle stock.

Installed the engine inverted. This was done for the looks of it. (I just love inverted engines.)

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Old 08-16-2009, 02:46 AM
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Dude, I love the tail art!

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Old 01-20-2010, 10:04 PM
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Default RE: Great Planes 40 PETE N POKE Sport Build!

This thread is so helpful to me,lots of great info...I am going to (attempt) to build a Pete N' Poke soon. Ihave had some surgery and though recovering fairly well I have been advised to "get a hobby" to get my mind off of things.so I have always wanted to build a plane...flying it is a separate issue at this point.


Ihope it is alright that Ibumpped this thread. Isuppose Iwill start a build thread of my own but just wanted to say thanks for this one.
Old 01-21-2010, 10:42 PM
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Default RE: Great Planes 40 PETE N POKE Sport Build!

Fishtown,

Thanks for the kind words! Glad we were able to help! This will be a Hobby that you will enjoy for the rest of your life.

Glad to know you are doing well. Let us know if we can help.

Hey just jump on my thread here and post your progress.

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Old 01-22-2010, 10:37 PM
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Here is an update on my PNP. I got the floates on and have mainen it. With the Mag 52 4c the power was marginal. It flew but really depended on the wing to lift it. It would not do a loop even with a shallow dive to begin with. So true scale flying. But with no researve power I had to be very careful.It alsodid not have the power toget off the water. I have sence installed a Saito 72 and it flies much better. At 1/2 throttle it flys like it had the 52 in it but if I need the power I know it is there. Here are a couple of photos.
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Old 03-26-2010, 01:05 PM
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Default RE: Great Planes 40 PETE N POKE Sport Build!

hi that is a nice pnp. im buying 1 tomarrow. i have a slow poke 40 and love it si i wont to buy a pnp what advantige do u have withe a 4 stroke vs a 2 stroke?
what size floats did u put on ur pnp? it make your plane look sweet. ?how hard was it to put them in place i would like to put some on the one im going to biuld.



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Hello I have just finished my pnp after letting it sit waiting for covering for a few months. I powered mine with a YS 63 weighed in at 7 lbs. Mods I have made are, made struts functional, reenforced joints at cradle with aliminum angle stock, and recessed wing servos. First flight was not pretty. Managed to not wreck but It was alot of work to make it turn. Second flight was real good after I made some adjustments. Went 3/4" back from the recomended CG. Put in 30% differential on ailerons,(now rolls on a string). Now it is very easy to fly. Flat turns are awesome. Inverted flight with some down stick. I even got it to spin, however recovery was not instant. Cant wait to get more time on this thing......................antiquefer.
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well this is my pete n poke its done now and i put an os la 46 on it i now it will fly like a champ but i also got a set of 40 floats for it they are also biuld up and there almost done. but i dont know if the 46 is going to be enouph power to lift off the water or not. there is only 1 way to find out though.kind of nevice i have about 60 to 80 hours in biulding it and 10 hours in the floats now so any info or input about my la 46 would be helpfull if its enouph power or not.............................. west
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Old 05-09-2010, 03:19 AM
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well she is finley i hope she flys like she looks sweet. would like to whate tell i get an input on the motor size if any one can let me now if my os la 46 will get her off the water its my first float plane and would hate to see her at the bottom of the lake. and good luck to all those that are out there flying ...........west
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Old 05-09-2010, 08:29 AM
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If you built your's light you will have no problem at all.

Mine was heavy do to the many mods I incorperated plus the heavy paint I used. Even with that the magnum 52 4S got it into the air.

I would suggest you fly it from the ground to get use toit before trying the water. That will also give you an ideal how much power reserve you have. If you can fly around without losing altitude with half power you will be fine.

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Props can make a difference. What are you using?
Old 05-09-2010, 12:53 PM
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i have an 11*7 on it now. and i dint do any mods to it i biult it like the directions sead. i figger its about 5 pounds with out the floats and i used ca med glue so they to are put to gether by the directions. thats for answering my qwestions. i think ur right fly it with weels first good sugestion. thanks again....................west
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I don't have an OS 46 LA, but I don't think the 11x7 is the best prop for your plane/engine combination. The 46 LA does have a reputation for being happiest on fairly large props, but 11x7 is a lot of load, and I do not think you will get maximum thrust from it. Also, your plane has a lot of drag, especially in the water on take-off, so it can't really make good use of that much pitch. So to my thinking, both your engine and your airplane suggest less pitch, and possibly more diameter. I believe OS recommends an 11x6 for this engine, but even that may not be optimal in this case.

I would try an 11x5. It's possible a 12x4 would be even better, but I'm not sure. Either of them will give more low speed thrust, and that's what you will need for take off.

It's good to have a number of different props in order to experiment. You can make a good guess based on experience, but the only sure way to tell is to try different props on your plane. You wouldn't want to buy a new engine just because you had the wrong prop.

I suggest you buy 11x5, 11x6, and a 12x4 props in the Master Airscrew brand. Wood props do not have a good reputation for holding up to water use. Also buy a Dubro spinner nut that can be easily removed, and put aside the plastic spinner until you have chosen your prop.

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thanks for the info. i have a dubro spinner so im good there but all i have for props is 11*6 and 10 *6 im a retard i but on my last post 11*7 i dont even have one of those. but any way ill try the 11*6 on weels and see how she dose

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Just so you know. Water splashed up by the floats can break a prop. At the very least it will hamper the thrust. So I would stay away from large diameter props. You can install splash rails on the floats and they will help. I say this because mine does put up a great deal of water down the centerline on takeoff.

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i have a oroblem im flying a tower trainer beens im still lurning and it fly nice and true but it dont wont to roll that good. so i pulled in a verticle and it still looks like crap. is it becose of the deyhedrull or not enouph alleron throw. i have it set on the first notch on the controll horn and all the way out on the servo.here is the plain thanks .........west
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