born2build

When did Sig go out of business? This is news to me.

FlyerInOKC

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I'm sure its news to SIG too, they just redid there website.

https://sigmfg.com

acdii

Illegal only if you sell the kit as a whole, or build and sell the plane as direct off the plans for profit. If you are having a laser cutter cut the wood for yourself to build for your enjoyment, then no legal ramifications to e concerned with. The key here are the plans, and the brand name. Cut a kit, copy the plans and the manual, and sell the kit as a whole, now you run across copyright infringement.

They didn't, but was close. They were bought in 2011 by Herb Rizzo and a few others, and they restructured the business to focus more on quick sales and lower inventory to reduce overhead. This is why they have more ARF and fewer kits, as well as no new kits, they don't want to spend R&D money on a kit that may not sell where an ARF sells.

born2build

I know. I was just at Sig's site a few days ago. Maybe someone should tell BBailey.

GallopingGhostler

They added a new control line plane, the Berkeley Lancer combat / stunt. It is laser cut and seems reasonably priced. I bet the quality of the kit wood and all is better than the Berkeley. (I have the "original" kit. )

Sig 44" span C/L Berkeley Lancer

That was very recent, within the past couple months.

FlyerInOKC

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I think they are probably testing the waters. They saw the resurgence in C/L and took a chance. I think it will py off for them. Just look what it has done for Brodak!

FlyerInOKC

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Does anyone here have a small pieces (think scrap) of Monokote Aluminum or Silver and/or Ultrcote Brushed Aluminum and/or Silver they could part with? I'm trying to replicate the finish on an airplane that is part brush aluminum skin and part fabric with what looks to be silver or aluminum colored paint. Its had to tell on the computer looking at the color samples they post.

Telemaster Sales UK

I've just bought a laser-cut short-kit from LDS, (Laser Design Services). It's Dr Walt Good's "Big Guff." One of the very first radio controlled model aircraft which first flew in 1938.

Picture of the late Peter Russell's Big Guff below. Peter Russell used to have a regular column in the best-selling English magazine, "Radio Controlled Models and Electronics, " or RCM&E for short!

FlyerInOKC

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Well it seems I don't have enough projects sitting on the shelf. Bob over at Laser Design Services mentioned he could cut a short kit one of these and I can resist anything but temptation so here is my new toy to build! Plans are 5 pages counting the flipped over wing page to give me a mirror image.





Short kit wood pack

drube

What's the wing span on the D17S? Are you going to do a build thread?

FlyerInOKC

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64.5" wing span 54" length. Power will be a .90 2 cycle (since I have one on hand) and the retracts will be Robart 605HD with struts.

tailskid

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FlyerInOKC, are you going to the Warbirds Over the Rockies this year?
Jerry

FlyerInOKC

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I'm afraid not. I have some medical issues that keep me from traveling. I have to cancel a planned trip to Chicago to visit my son because I can't sit that long in the car. He's looking into train travel from Wichita now. I'm going to Wichita in a couple of weeks to see a grandson compete in the state fair and that's about all I can stand to drive these days.

skylark-flier

Geez, Mike - I had no idea you had med issues. I certainly hope it all works out OK and you're back amongst the "young & lively" soon.

(ain't gettin' older fun???)

acdii

His med issues are the getting too old for this S***, just like all the rest of us. In my case with an arthritic back, I can no longer ride in a car for more than 20 minutes without excruciating pain unless I can sit as if in a normal chair, which is why I drive a truck now. It gets so bad for me that if I sit for an hour or more in a car, then I can barely walk and have a hard time getting out.

Telemaster Sales UK

I certainly count myself lucky, I'm still pretty fit at seventy. I volunteer at a local charity shop shifting furniture on an as and when basis, usually not more than two or three times a month. Last week we moved a large oak wardrobe, an "armoire" in French, probably eighteenth century, from a house to the shop. A woman who happened to be there bought it straight away so we drove over to her house where we installed it for her. Luckily it was on the ground floor.

I had intended to go flying later that day but I was too tired!

acdii

I'm only 53, but Arthritis has kicked my ass. I worked on doing paint correction on the freshly painted topper for my truck on Saturday, which involved lots of hand wet sanding, them buffing and polishing with a rather large and heavy polisher, then washing the RV trailer and truck, by the time I was done, my back was protesting so much it made the BLM marches look like childs play. I tackled clay bar and polishing the rest of the truck yesterday and with the high humidity and heat, I was exhausted after 5 hours. This getting old crap sucks. I used to build houses 6 days a week, carrying around 2 x 12 by 24' SYP 2 at a time on my shoulder, up a ladder, and now I can barely carry myself up a ladder and hope a knee doesn't give out.

Even worse, Carpal tunnel is giving me pains where I never knew would exist in my fingers. A few fingers feel numb at the tips, and a couple have sharp pains along the sides. I just do what I can and ignore it as much as possible, and no OTC drugs that can ease it either.

FlyerInOKC

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Thanks! Yeah, get older is a blast! Every birthday comes with another specialist. I can't complain my issues are treatable I just hate waiting!to get something done about it!

Barlingbomber

Hi All,

not sure if this thread is active but as its about kits (of which I have 154 collected … don't ask)I just retired, sent my kid off to college and am finally free to resume my lifelong love of building RC airplanes! I wondered if anyone might know where I can get a set of plans for a CAP (complete a pac) Tiger Moth. I bought the (pretty ancient) kit on ebay a while back and didn't realize it came without a plan and you were supposed to buy this separately (Doh! will I ever learn to read the small print). Anyway CAP was a Scottish outfit I believe, long since defunct so that's a non-starter and I'm clutching at straws to see if I can dig this plan out from somewhere. But you never know...does anyone have any ideas?

GallopingGhostler

I ran into a similar situation to you. I bid and won a DeBolt half-A 36-inch Livewire Champ but didn't realize that in the description mentioned missing plans. Kit is in the best shape I've seen for a 44 year old kit. Found a friend and long time member of my local AMA club had the kit and plan. $8 later with 2 copies in my hands, I'm good again.

Doing a search nets that Complete-a-Pac kits and plans do occasionally come up for sale on UK E-Bay, but no Tiger Moths. You might be able to contact folks on http://www.singlechannel.co.uk/ and E-mail them. They may know of a C-a-P plans source. There used to be a forum where early RC folks in UK would communicate along with others around the world, but that forum folded about a year ago.

Telemaster Sales UK

When I last heard of Complete-A-Pac kits, they were produced by Anglia Model Centre in Norfolk, England. The shop still seems to exist but there's no reference to CAP kits, it might be worth sending them an email though. As stated above CAP kits sometimes come up on ebay.co.uk, failing that try putting a request on "Model Flying," it's the website associated with "RCM&E," Great Britain's most popular magazine for r/c aircraft enthusiasts.

RC Model Aircraft Planes and Accessories UK - Anglia Model Centre

https://www.modelflying.co.uk/

FlyerInOKC

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I messed a knee up worse than it already was Saturday reworking a flower bed. Tuesday they drained the knee but I still can't use it to get up out of a chair or put any stress on it. It feels like someone stuck a knife through it and used it to pry the kneecap loose! Started a new medicine for COPD but it seems to be triggering a chronic cough which was why I went to the pulmonologist in the first place. I'm starting to collect additional wood for the 64.5" Wingspan Ziroli Staggerwing. I'm debating substituting 3/32" X 3/8" Bass for the the 3/32" X 3/8" Balsa for the fuselage stringers and 3/16" square Bass for the 3/16" stringers of the wings, is this overkill? Downsizing the designed called for downsizing the materials used.

acdii

If anything, maybe bass for one side longeron, and one top/bottom longeron, and the rest balsa. This should provide the stiffness needed while staying light.

I know the feeling about the knees. Some days just walking up stairs to work can be agonizing, and if I move in just the wrong way, leg collapses.

FlyerInOKC

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You know the old joke the mind is the second thing to go and I forget the first? I think the first must be the knees!

acdii

And here all this time I thought it was Mr. Wonderful that was the first to go.