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Old 05-12-2022, 08:35 AM
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I respectfully request to be included in the Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.

In 1990, I built one of the first ones in the country. Model Airplane News published my review in its April, 1991 issue.

With this airplane I won my local club's 1990 Model of the Year. And I took Third Place in Fun Scale at the 1992 Westover AFB AMA NATS, my first ever competition.

The Ultimate is long gone, but I'm still around.
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Originally Posted by GiantModeler View Post
I respectfully request to be included in the Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.

In 1990, I built one of the first ones in the country. Model Airplane News published my review in its April, 1991 issue.

With this airplane I won my local club's 1990 Model of the Year. And I took Third Place in Fun Scale at the 1992 Westover AFB AMA NATS, my first ever competition.

The Ultimate is long gone, but I'm still around.
Got any pictures of the OLD BIRD?
If I had some access to the old MAN magazines I'd hunt up the article to have a look.

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Originally Posted by GiantModeler View Post
I respectfully request to be included in the Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.

In 1990, I built one of the first ones in the country. Model Airplane News published my review in its April, 1991 issue.

With this airplane I won my local club's 1990 Model of the Year. And I took Third Place in Fun Scale at the 1992 Westover AFB AMA NATS, my first ever competition.

The Ultimate is long gone, but I'm still around.
Originally Posted by RICKSTUBBZ View Post
Got any pictures of the OLD BIRD?
If I had some access to the old MAN magazines I'd hunt up the article to have a look.
Maybe you can attach the article here !?

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Thank you both for your replies.

Admin has just informed me that I need to make a few more posts before I can do as you ask.
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Originally Posted by GiantModeler View Post
Thank you both for your replies.

Admin has just informed me that I need to make a few more posts before I can do as you ask.
Aha ok !!
Looking forward to your posts
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I'm going to try to post a photo of the front cover of my original instruction manual. If that works, I'll do some more later.

Sorry, it didn't work.
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I forget how many post you have to make before the system will let you attach a picture.
Surely you only need a few more
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Smile April 1991 MAN

Well, look what I found.
























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Rick,

Thank you very much for locating and posting the review. That's my airplane!

Shortly after the 1992 NATS, I crashed the model when a helpful club member grabbed my right arm. He was trying to warn me that I was flying too low during an inverted pass. A beginner, he was simply acting on his instructors' warnings to always fly at least "three mistakes high" when performing maneuvers. He had just arrived at the field and didn't realize I was practicing a routine.

Oh, well. Only five posts to go before I can include pictures.
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Dear Mr. Bren Bailey, it is not just a pleasute but a full honor to include you in the brotherhood due to your close relation with the history of the CG 10-300 Ultimate!

You are our new friend member with number #142 as shown on the list.

Wellcome to the Carl Golberd Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood family!

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I had a little more time to mess with it this morning, so I cleaned up post 2408 and added the rest of the pages for Bren's build/review article...
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I had a little more time to mess with it this morning, so I cleaned up post 2408 and added the rest of the pages for Bren's build/review article...
Thank you,,
Very interesting for me to read,, I am new to CG Ultimate since late last year, when I got a used one almost for free.
And a lot of details needed attention, such as fuel tank, servos, wrinkled covering etc etc.
Have also spent some time figuring out what engine to use and finally mounted a Webra 1.20, not to happy about a big 2 stroke but that is what I have
, So now I have to understand how to get the CG as accurate as possible for itīs first flight. It will fly during this summer..

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Jescardin,

Thank you for including me in the Brotherhood.

I will do my best to help others in the Brotherhood if they have questions.

Although my memory isn't what it used to be, I do recall that this was the sweetest flying airplane I had built to that point. I believe that no other model, including the Dave Patrick ARF, flew as acrobatically or predictably as this one.

Take care,

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As long as I have to make four more posts before I can attach photos, I'll use this one to tell you a little about myself. Now that you have been warned, please feel free to skip to another more interesting post.

Like many of you, when higher education loomed, I decided to reorient my priorities. Aeromodeling took a back seat to graduation and a career. Luckily, though, I studied mechanical engineering, which aided me immeasurably when I came to my senses and resumed modeling activities.

After a stint in the Army, including a Viet Nam tour, and marriage I embarked on an adventure in education. I taught math, physics, English, and auto mechanics from middle school to university during a 31-year career. Along the way, a brilliant high school physics student reintroduced me to modeling.

And the rest, as they say, is history, which I will continue in future posts, should you be interested.

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In the late 1970s I was privileged to teach physics to some of the brightest minds in northern Virginia. One of them, as his term project, designed and constructed a radio controlled helium blimp from mylar, balsa, and scrap servo parts. Not only did it fly, it did so in front of his entire senior class in the school gym. He went on to win the Westinghouse Science Talent Search and a full academic scholarship to Princeton. And he was willing to help me get started in RC aeromodeling.

To a person who had previously built with Ambroid glue and covered with silkspan and dope, instant adhesives and iron-on covering were startling revelations. And those radios--oh my! They actually had functions like proportional controls, individual trims, reverse switches, and enough channels to fly just about anything you could conceivably create. Equipped with a Goldberg Eagle 63 kit, a bottle of CA, several rolls of Monokote, a K&B ,40 engine, a Futaba 7-channel AM radio system, and rudimentary tools, I cobbled together a fairly straight and stout trainer.

After joining AMA, at the strong recommendation of my student, I attended a meeting of NVRC and shortly thereafter began training. Because I had had some full-scale flight training in college, I thought I knew everything, Of course, this greatly hampered my progress and, when I left Virginia for northern climes 18 months later, many of my NVRC instructors were still cursing under their breaths. But, I could safely take off and usually land without too much damage. Thank you, NVRC.

Over the next 18 years, besides freezing my butt off, I met some incredibly skilled builders and flyers who helped me achieve things I could only dream of when I first put knife to balsa back in the 1950s.

But that's a story for another post. Only two to go.
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In the 1980s, the state of Maine had a surprisingly large RC airplane community, I joined the RC Gulls in Bangor and met someone who was to become a lifelong friend throughout our many subsequent moves. He took me under his wing and six months later I started feeling "as one" with the model. Because he lived only one street away, well within walking distance, we spent many evenings in each others shops. And our wives liked each other. Except for the seemingly endless winters, I was in modeling heaven.

For the next nine years, my friend and I built many models, most from kits but some we cut ourselves from plans. As I became more interested in crafting miniature replicas of full-scale aircraft, he drifted toward larger and larger airplanes. Because I believed giant scale would require more of a budgetary commitment than I was willing to make, I hesitated to join the GS movement. Besides, I had built and successfully competed with a Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300. It won contests, got me published, and had a satisfying amount of scale detail.

Then I built an Art Chester Jeep. With a 48-inch wingspan, it was a quarter-scale model, and therefore qualified for IMAA. I can still see the looks I got when I carried the Jeep to the flight line and placed it among the 10- to 20-foot wingspan true giants. I can also recall the awe I felt as I watched those same airplanes carve graceful arcs across those clear blue, if a bit chilly, northern New England skies.

I was hooked. But before I could start on my first "real" giant scale model, it was time to move again, this time to a place that capt1597 might be familiar with.

Only one post to go.
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Next stop: Marquette, a town on Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Yup, we went from being Maniacs to Yoopers. I dragged along most of my modeling paraphernalia and as many models as I could cram into a U-Haul trailer. I got a much larger space in which to set up shop out of the deal. My head spun with thoughts of cranking out model after model, all giant scale. Only two things stood in the way.

One, my wife's head was spinning in a different direction. Since I was now teaching only part time, she viewed my free time as a "wonderful opportunity to get an advanced degree." So, I embarked on that path and, to tell the truth, found learning new pedagogic skills very interesting. I completed one masters and was well on my way to an MFA before we pulled up stakes again.

Two, Marquette was an RC desert in comparison to Maine. No hobby shop within 100 miles and a flying field in the gravelly bottom of a mining borrow pit. Yet, I persevered. I finally built a bench on which an 80" wing could lay without overhanging. And promptly ordered my first giant scale kit—a Stream R/C Akro Pro 180.

Equipped with a U.S. Engines 41cc, I flew it for several summers at IMAA events throughout the midwest. I also started constructing my second GS model, this one a Top Flite giant P-51, trying to combine my love for scale with my new found attraction to IMAA-sized aircraft. Unfortunately, before I could complete it, I fell into addiction.

That’s 10 posts. I can now post photos, I think. Do you want me to start with the pictures, or would you prefer I continue my reminiscences?

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Here is my first engine run test with the Webra mounted..
I now remember why I dont like two stroke engines,, way to much high pitch sound and vibrations.


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RoKit,

Your engine sounds smooth and reliably runs from idle to higher speeds. I agree with you about the sounds and vibrations inherent with two-stokes glow engines. So much so that I only fly electric these days.

Good luck with your project. It seems you're well on your way to a successful maiden.

Take care,

Bren
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Of course..... photos, please!
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RoKit,

Your engine sounds smooth and reliably runs from idle to higher speeds. I agree with you about the sounds and vibrations inherent with two-stokes glow engines. So much so that I only fly electric these days.

Good luck with your project. It seems you're well on your way to a successful maiden.

Take care,

Bren
If you look at the car behind, there is a Polaris Ultra leaned against it,, that was my first model some years ago after coming back to the hobby after 35 years.
Electric is way easier, but lack the "real thing" for me. The batteries is another thing to consider, specially about the specs, that never are what they say.
Or one cell dropping after a few cycles. I am probably loading them to much even if within the specification.Spending a lot of money on LiPoīs and still dont get what
I pay for, that got me in to IC again, bit by bit I started to go with IC engines.
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RoKit,

I agree. The sound and fury of ICEs are very appealing, especially four-strokes, gassers, and anything with multi-cylinders. However, at my age, I can do without the bending, stooping, tuning, and clean-up that go with them. However, electrics do lack that certain something.

Jesus,

I will use one more post to finish my back story then start posting photos and text more germane to this Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood thread.

Take care,

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Hello, my name is GiantModeler and I am an addict. I have been clean now for either 9 months or 12 months, depending on how you're counting. I'm not addicted to painkillers, alcohol, or even tobacco. At the core of my addiction is the almost-ready-to-fly RC model, or ARF. I haven't assembled one for nine months nor bought one for almost a year. I'm still immensely tempted, but so far have fought off the urge and instead retreated to my shop to do some actual building to scratch the itch..

It took COVID to bring me to my senses. During 10 days of hospital incarceration, I had plenty of time to reflect. More often than not, I thought back to the time I had spent in Maine and Marquette building kits (like the Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300), enjoying the process, and flying the results. But while in Michigan, I witnessed the blossoming of two phenomena: the Internet and ARFs.

On the IMAA site--back then they were called bulletin boards--I asked for and received the username GiantModeler. I couldn't believe that someone else hadn't snatched it up. Then I went hunting for other RC airplane sites and managed to register under that name everywhere. Except for the IMAA site, I did not join to participate in conversations but to watch and learn, a seemingly subversive activity that I later learned was called lurking.

The other emerging trend at the time was ARFs. I bought one at one of the big shows to put together "between builds." You know how that goes. Distraction became obsession, culminating in my wife giving me a Horizon Hobby 35% Extra ARF and compatible Zenoah twin one Christmas. Compared to the Akro Pro 180, this model almost built itself. What took six months with a balsa kit, took only six weeks with an ARF. And when I computed the cost of building a model this size from a wood kit, the ARF was much less expensive.

Instant gratification coupled with reasonable cost, who wouldn't get addicted? I certainly did, and it lasted through our stays in Marquette and Kalamazoo to our retirement in North Carolina. Until COVID. Among my long-term symptoms--loss of feeling, shortness of breath, loss of balance--came renewed interest in actual building. Thank goodness!

So that brings us to today, and the end of my story so far. I hope to stick around for a few more years to build from kits or plans in my shop and to encourage like-minded individuals in their efforts on this forum and others.
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This is a look at part of my Wall of Regrets, pictures of models I wish I had not crashed or sold. That's me on the right in a remarkably accurate caricature.

Above the picture of the Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 is a 20% Fred Reese TravelAir Mystery Ship, which I built right after the Ultimate.




Take care,

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The Ultimate flies sweet, until it doesn't. Thats what happened to mine after it's third flight. I bought it third hand, mainly for the engine, a Genesis II 120, which needed some TLC to degum after sitting for who knows how long. While that was soaking I took off some damaged covering and reglued everything I could find because the plane was built using CA which had become brittle. I used Titebond III and then recovered it. I flew it twice and it flew on rails, the engine purred like a kitten and balanced the plane out perfectly. Thrid flight was over at SIG in June 2018. I started it up, ran great, took off and climbed and we were in a counterclockwise, so made my left and throttled back. The engine promptly quit.

These do not fly very long or very far with no power, especially with a tail wind. I tried to get it around but trees blocked me so couldn't get it into the wind to take advantage of the height and it went nose in, really fast. Wings survived, cockpit back survived, engine survived, but everything else was scrap. Post mortem found out the throttle arm on the carb loosened up and the carb rotated to closed when I throttled back. I am going to one of these day put the templates into my laser software and cut out new parts and rebuild it, but thats in the future, too many other more important projects ahead of it. Unfortunately, none of those projects involved planes or flying.

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