fast setting water base glue
 

This glue sets in 1 min and can be unglued with a little heat.
The liquid form of this glue is titebond liquid hide glue that does not set in 1 min.
Hide glue well set in 1 min.

huh?

I have never used it but am going to on my next plane
http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/s...L.XX/Hide_Glue

This is a first, I belong to a nice wood working club with a lot of retired cabinet makers. We do quite a lot of veneer work and a lot of gluing in general, we keep several gallons of wood glue in stock at all times. This is the first time I have ever seen Hide glue or ever heard about it. I will ask some of the old pros about it and see what they have to say.

Gray Beard, youtube has a lot on hide glue, it sets up as fast as CA

Technical Gelatin / Hide glue

http://www.amstelproducts.com/images/gelatin_glue.jpg
Product Description

Technical Gelatin is a protein derived from the hydrolysis of collagen which is a protein constituent of animal hides. The raw materials used for the production are derived from animals found fit for human consumption.
After the liming process the product is neutralized. During extraction the temperature is 120 C or more during 4 to 5 hours. The extract is concentrated and dried. The product is packed in new bags and stored on a dry place before shipment.

Prior to about the early 1900's, hide glue was the prime choice of most woodworkers....often the only readily available source. It is not fast setting and is usually used hot.

Rodney, don't no were you got the info that its not fast setting because not only is it fast setting you don't have to clamp it. Your post off google does not tell much about the glue. Youtube shows a lot about using hide glue, even how fast it sets and how strong it is . Hide glue was the first super glue and has been used for over a 1000 years.

I have used real hide glue for years building stringed instruments where it's a tradition. I really don't want to be a naysayer, so I'll just say hot hide glues is a pain in the ass to use and I'm not sure it would work any better than yellow glue in most applications. It sets up from liquid to gel very fast but unless there is a large contact area between the two parts has very little strength until it solidifies which is no faster than yellow glue. For example, when stick building a frame it will not work like super glue. The closest thing I can think of as far as similar properties is ambroid glue.

+1 Rodney

Box car didn't say it was as strong as CA. He said it was as fast as CA. But that's not true either. I think he misinterpreted some information he got from somewhere. It's mostly used by people who want to use traditional materials. Modern adhesives have a lot of advantages over traditional glues like hide. I wouldn't use it for building model airplanes.

I want to thank smithcreek for his post being some one that has used it. I will not use it on a kit. I have been building kits for 60 years and am always looking for something new to use, this not being one. Sorry if I upset anyone, have a good day.

One other characteristic of hide glue you might want to consider. It can be an advantage or a disadvantage depending on the use. It is NOT very water resistant which makes it easy to disassemble a glued up project, just soak it in water.

I remember my Grandfather , the Austrian cabinet maker using it as well as some concoction make from fish scales to glue
wood together . His furniture still stands proud over 90 years later .