Thanks Mike!
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Part II - Hinging the Elevators to the Stabilizer
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...781f7a5023.jpg With all the hinge point locations marked on the stab's TE, I use the scribe tool that is screwed into your square and make an indentation in the center of the pencil marks. If you don't have or lost the scribe tool an awl works just as well. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...641acc2cf7.jpg This is what it should look like. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2583bdcdf9.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...3e4786decf.jpg I find it convenient to have all of the tools that I need to install hinge points in one storage box. I'm using an old servo box for this purpose. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...c12fb8eee8.jpg This is a jig that Robart sells, if you want to install your hinge points straight and true it's really a must have. The threaded top knob is removable insert that will accommodate the different size hinge points that Robart offers which are 3/32,1/8 and 3/16. I've installed the 1/8" hinge points insert for my application. Be sure to use a new or sharp 1/8" drill bit, which I've equipped with a depth stop that you can find at your local hardware store. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...32c6f0a8fe.jpg Place the jig over the TE of the stab, insert an awl to locate the indentation previously made ensuring the hole is drilled at the correct location. You could also just look through the top hole and just site the indentation if you prefer. Stay tuned for Part III... |
Mike, good luck doing any bench time with that little cute girl around! Vince, looking good per the norm. I was also wondering where all the blue tape went. You had it! ;) (I use a lot of it myself. Used it for clamping primarily before I saw those great clamps.)
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The blue tape sure beats the old light brown masking tape of old.
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Part III - Hinging the Elevators to the Stabilizer
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...73a8e5b9ea.jpg Remove the awl and insert your 1/8" drill bit chucked in a cordless drill. The jig will ensure the hole is straight and plumb. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...5481e101b4.jpg All of the 1/8" holes have been drilled, but you're not done yet! https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...e0bca96be7.jpg Look closely at the hinge point. Note that the barbed portion of the hinge point is straight, in other words, its diameter is the same from the first top barb to the bottom sixth barb. Above the top barb the hinge point starts to taper. We need to account for that for a proper fit. I use a tapered stone chucked in my Dremel tool. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...388c108156.jpg This is done freehand and without the aid of the jig. Don't worry it's a piece of cake! https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...c9eaa9c275.jpg Inserting the hinge point, you'll notice that we now have to accommodate for the larger diameter of the hinge point knuckle... https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...3772329304.jpg So it's back to the Dremel tool with yet another stone bit to widen the top of the hinge point opening. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...55c3e3075a.jpg OK, now that's much better. Now you're done! https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...834cf584f3.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...d7f0a84c9d.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...62248c30a1.jpg |
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This morning I duplicated the same procedures on the elevator halves as I did on the stab. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...7e82ccb28e.jpg My measurements were right on, both elevator and stab lines match. You may be wondering about the large hinge gap. This will be adjusted as soon as I bevel the elevators LE. More to follow... |
I'm enjoying your tutorial on Robart hinges!
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
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I'm enjoying your tutorial on Robart hinges!
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I saw your hinge tutorial on the Sig 4* build on the hinges. I happened to have that Robart hinge tool which does help but I like the additional steps you include that I never thought of. You seem to be meticulous with good procedures. I would always bevel the control surfaces first and then use the hinge tool. I think that's how the kit instructions would always tell us. Having flat edges to lay the tool down makes so much more sense and is easier to work with. From now on I am questioning manuals and planning my steps better.
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The LE bevel on each elevator is 60 degrees. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...caa56beb43.jpg This is what I'll use to bevel those edges. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...8768b26245.jpg My home made bevel sander made quick work of it. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...31a4c4ffe7.jpg I like to keep things simple. I wrapped sandpaper around a deep socket. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...37fda198b6.jpg I need to notch the top of each hinge opening to give clearance for the hinge knuckle. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...6a8fcbb977.jpg A few passes and it's done. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...49ad502ac1.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...327231ff51.jpg This is what the hinge should look installed. The hinge line is flush with the tip of the bevel and the knuckle has room to flex. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...c4be0f39b5.jpg Remember those large hinge gaps that I had before? Now the hinge gap is minimal. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...93e746144d.jpg Plenty of elevator deflection... I think it's good to go. |
HI Vincent, When you cover your tail section do you fill in the gap at the hinge line with covering folded in half to fit the gap on both sides of the stabilizer and the elevator. My old mentor did this many years ago and he never shared how to do it! Do you also cover the tail section first then leave enough of a gap so you can glue the stab to the fuse?
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Mike, my 3-D friends seal their hinge line gaps, but I never have. It's a pretty simple process to do. Some use the same plastic covering (Ultracote/ Monokote) ironed between the beveled sides of their control surfaces. Others use 3M Micropore or Blenderm tape. The Micropore is white vs the Blenderm being clear. You Tube I'm sure has tutorials showing the process...
When I built my Four Star, I covered all of the tail surfaces before gluing onto the fuselage much like an ARF. In this particular case I will be glassing the entire model and painting so I may glass the stab before I glue to wing, not sure yet... |
Hi Vincent, my mentor years back did that method alot but he never showed me how to do it.
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To shape the wing tips, the elevators first have to be set at their neutral position. After some head scratching I had an epiphany. I fished out of the garbage the bottom portions of the cradles that were once part of the ribs that accomplished that very task. I added some cross brackets so they could stand on their own. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...d642c57450.jpg They worked like a charm. Now I can shape those tips! https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...5400b7c281.jpg Initial rough shape completed, now it's time to taper them. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...f391c1699f.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...3daab68dab.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...7cb95e898c.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...5715d62f53.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...fc94c5ccfb.jpg |
Wow. Genius at work.
Thanks Vincent for the tip. |
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Construction on the Fin/Rudder has begun. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...4d6734a2f7.jpg Spars were added and glued into position. I added a block of weight over the top to ensure each rib was flush against the build table. |
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The fin's leading edge need some attention before glue-up. I don't like the contact area between the front of each rib and the back of the leading edge. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...822b04d8b2.jpg This is how I will fix the problem. I'm once again using my aluminum angle stock with sandpaper attached on one side. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...690b9f9ef9.jpg After a few passes the contact between rib and LE stock is perfect. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...bd6fccfd1d.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...6a2569dd52.jpg With the glue now applied, I'll let it dry before moving onto the next step... |
Vincent, That is going to be a very strong and light tail group and it looks fantastic too thank you
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Originally Posted by mkjohnston
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Vincent, That is going to be a very strong and light tail group and it looks fantastic too thank you
Michael Johnston |
You are quite welcome, Vincent, It is so cool to see something built with such attention to detail. Its time for me to start building and become a much better builder and detailer!
I am going flying this morning and hopefully the wind isn't as strong as it was the other day Take Care Michael |
Mike, like most anything else the more you practice, the better you will become. I have no doubt that your building skills will improve...
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One side of the Rudder/Fin has been planked. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...5ee27af8da.jpg The cradle tabs were removed and before the sheeting begins, the leading edge must be shaped flush to the tops of the ribs. I find it extremely satisfying watching a good curl come out of my hand plane. :o https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...cd22c8e2d6.jpg Similar to the elevator halves, the rudder also has four 1/8" torque rod blocks which have been sized and epoxied in place. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...3531ce39df.jpg If you're like me you have been buying your mixing cups from your local hobby shop. Tired of overpaying for them, I decided to go on Amazon and purchase these 3/4 oz. mixing cups for about 7 bucks! They don't however have the measurement lines on the side. |
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RIP little girl! Beautiful job as always Vince. I just had the worse holiday weekend of my life. My new best buddy passed. We didn't know she had been exposed to Parvo before she was old enough to vaccinate. I ran up a credit card trying to save her but she could beat it. RIP Sandy. |
Oh no! So sorry to hear Mike, that must have been devastating... :(
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It is.
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