Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

excellent deals! $218 each shipped.... free shipping. I guess they are trying to dump their remaining inventory. No more after this....ever!

BTW, I think the Goldberg Ultimate may possibly be discontinued. It's not in this month's Tower catalogue and there are only 18 or so left in inventory and the price is dropping....just a rumor.

Mike

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

Where? I cannot see any on their website. Do you have a link?

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I guess I didn't look closely enough! I just ordered a Super Stearman and a Little CAP...

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

This is on the tower site? I'm not seeing it. Are they completely gone?

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

Someone posted the deal back in November and I ordered the 80" Extra. Right now I've got the tail and the fuse done and am just starting on the wings. It was right at $202 delivered via UPS ground then.

http://shopmidwestproducts.com/-strs...Categories.bok

They called everyone who ordered after the guy posted the info that they were selling them out and asked if they really wanted a kit because someone ordered one and thought it was an ARF.

Anyway odd that they have them now but they do. I called at least twice in the last two years and was told they were all out. The Extra I got was the new one with the airfoiled tail FYI.

Just so you know it's a WOOD kit with plans. It does not include a cowl or wheel pants but did include a canopy. I ordered the cowl/canopy from Fiberglass Specialites. It does come with hardware.

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

How did you get this deal? I see $230.00 plus $30.00 Shipping? [:o]

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Thanks for the link. I did eventually find it after a google search.

Right now it's showing $230 plus shipping which for my zip code is ~ $20 bucks. I'm not sure it's that great a deal considering you still have to buy a cowl and wheels pants. If I remember correctly they did give you a coupon toward that purchase but I don't think it was for the full amount.

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Unreal.

I know on Midwest's website they still mght even have a Stearman.

That's too bad about the Ultimate. That is my favorite plane of all times. Thankfully, I have one that I fly, and two in the box.

What a shame. Friggin ARFs. I would totally be in on a ceremonious "ARF burning."

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

The month of November was free shipping. I'm not sure it applies in December.

Even the price of $220 was reduced to like $202 when I went thru the checkout.

Regardless of price name other aerobatic kits that are still available in the 2.10glow/40-50cc gas size? Few and far between these days.

The place for the coupon included in the kit isn't in business anymore I think. I ordered from Fiberglass Specialites and had it in less than a week for around $80 total for pants and cowl.

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I understand how you feel about ARFs, don't get me wrong I love to build, and I don't want to start a kit vs. ARF war but spending somewhere around $330 for a kit/cowl/wheels pants you have too build and cover/paint is hard to justify when you can buy a very nice 50CC size ARF for ~ $550. I'm just going to stick to building warbird kits.

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

Those who are looking for the link:

http://www.midwestproducts.com/

It's 5% off for all NEW accounts (click the area in the middle right of the main website.) The discounted price and free shipping show during checkout.

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

What You mean is, it's hard to justify haveing that much fun for only $330?

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That's about right. While unpacking my kit I piled it next to a stack of balsa/ply for another project and had about the same amount of material in each. The "pile" cost about the same and had no hardware, plans were $55 extra, no canopy etc...and I had to substitute basswood for spruce which the midwest includes....and it's laser cut as opposed to be being "me" cut lol.

I have openly joked in the past that sooner or later it's going to be cheaper to buy old kits for wood than buying the wood itself...we're about there now.

Oh and half the bags in the midwest kit are labeled made in the USA or made in Italy as opposed to China.

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Thanks for the info. That makes it a little more tempting.

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I'm on my third MW Extra 300 right now, it's almost ready to cover,
Yes an arf would be only $100 or so more by the time you buy everything for the kit, but some guys, like me, like to have a one of a kind airplane.
I intend to cover it in the same color scheme my Ohio RC Ultimate had (check gallery if you're interested)

Build on boys and girls (are there any girl builders?)

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

Well the good news is 3/4 thru my build of the Extra.

The bad news is I realised I have 4 R-6 ribs and zero R-7 ribs and called Midwest about it.

Anyone need an already built fuse with no wings?

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Oh well.... the Extra and Cap are very, very heavy compared to todays standards and fly as such! It is a real shame to see the Ultimate go if that is the case. POS ARF's!!!!!!!!

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No,
but I do have this, the left over from knocking out the ribs

I'd be happy to mail it to you

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Did you guys see how cheap the little Cap is?
I'm tempted to pick one up just cuz

http://shopmidwestproducts.com/-strs...ane/Detail.bok

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65.45 including shipping for the little cap. I now have one on the way.
On a secondary note:
Is anyone looking for the Midwest Giles 202 kit?

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Midwest is looking "into it". I'll give them a week and call them back. If they can't manage to come up with something I'd be all over it and just make another. Out of all the parts to be short on a wing rib is about the only thing that's not easily just made up on the spot. I could do it by scaling the ones I already have but that's a lost resort.

Thanks for the offer I'll let you know.

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

Ordered my Extra Wednesday nite for $230 + $16.50 shipping which magically became $218.50 with free shipping at checkout. Got shipping confirmation yesterday. I've wanted one for years and figured this might be my last chance. I've had Midwest kits (2 Aerostar .40's ans a USCG utiltiy boat) and found them to be excellent. I'm not sure how far down the build queue this is going to end up, but I finally have it and I am geeked.
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Any suggestions on powerplants that seemed to work particularly well? I think this is going to my first gasser and would appreciate any comments.

Thanks!!!

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I just ordered a Lil Cap for $68.90 shipped. Almost ordered 2, but ya know...

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I got my big cap before Christmas and got it with free shipping and some bucks off the listed price. It totaled up to 218.00

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Got my Little Cap a week ago or so. The kit looks great, wood is all bagged and looks to be good quality and straight. Die cutting looks crisp.
Who knew this is a Mike McConville design?

Hard to beat for 70 bucks!!

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I also bought one given the price. I won't get to it for a while, but it would be great if someone could do a build thread on one. From what I have read these kits build heavy and I'd love to find ways to lighten it a little before I attempt the build.

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

Which kit are you talking about and what do you consider heavy?

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

The 80" kits come out heavy for their size. They come out to a weight that is normally seen in planes of about 88" wingspan nowdays. It's easy to see why when looking at them. They were good for their day but the construction techniques have come a long way in the last 15 years since they were designed. Just looking at the 80" Extra there are several pieces in the plane that weigh a ton...stuff like the wing joinder, gear plate etc...Some of it can be lightened but a new design with a 2 piece wing and a tube is going to weigh a 1/2 pound less just in the wing, possibly more if you use a carbon fiber tube. Not only does the new design make the wing lighter the front of the plane gets lighter in the motor box area because the box can simply come back and enclose the wing tube instead of making a whole structure that has to tie in the motor box/landing gear/and the front of the fuse.

It's not a pig but it's not a lightweight modern design either.

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

I've heard the Cap is a lot lighter than the Extra (of which I 'swapped' for the Cap) DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

My post was in response to the preceding post (#25), and the topic was the little CAP at $70. Before I ordered the kit I did a quick search on RCU and a few people had mentioned that the kit built heavy. I don't have any specifics on the weight, and given the price I ordered it anyway.

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

The box for the Little Cap says 7.5 to 8.5 lbs. I think with a little effort, 7.5 is doable, which gives a wing load of 24.9 oz/sqft. Not terrible.
By contrast, this ARF Extra(which I own)states 7.5-8lbs, no wing loading available. This plane is built light and looks like it's made with balsaply swiss cheese.
I think mine weighs about 7.25lb with a Saito 100.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMUY2&P=0

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

I ordered the 80" CAP for my son to build. He graduated from college last May and looking for work has been pretty scarce. This will be the second kit that he's built. The first was a Sig 4-star 40.

The kit arrived in great condition. Of course these kits have the plastic cowl and wheel pants. I ordered a painted cowl from Horizon Hobby. I thought their old CAP arf used to be based on these. I think a fiberglass one was $45, this one was $30. Anyway I'll let you know if it fits.

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

Well I will agree they are heavier than some of the modern designed 3-d style planes, I do like the way the 80" MW Extra flies.
A bit more realistic and challenging than the newer hovercraft available.

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

I don't like how the modern hoverplanes fly. I know how to 3D but I think it's ridiculous now. It's really silly to watch. I enjoy flying graceful pattern lines with some wicked snaps, flatspins, and lomcevoks. A little extra weight makes for a much better pattern type plane (obviously not taken to extremes).

Mike

RE: Midwest Extra and Cap!!!
 

Well I've done some more work on my Extra, I'm at the finial prep for covering stage,,
I'm not so happy with the fit on many things.

1-Wing saddle needed some shimming to fit the fuse square, I don't know what happened here, maybe I wasn't careful enough when I framed it up. I looked and measure, couldn't find any mistakes so I had to add 3/32 balsa on the left side of the saddle, fuse sits square now.

2- the gaps,, the other kits I build were the flat horizontal stab types, this is the first airfoil tail I built and the gap is ridiculous,, I'll have to fill that with 3/32 also. +

3-Why in the world did they design it so you had to cut part of the leading edge to slide it into the fuse,, and then patch it back?? this makes covering more difficult

picture show the problem spots I'm not happy with