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airshares-RCU 01-20-2003 11:19 PM

LMH is out of control
 
I have no idea if my LMH 110 is just built wrong or Im just not flying it right. It has never flown well from the beginning. It is hard to fly, which i figured it would but at least be somewhat controllable. ITs very unstable, and I have a gyro on it too . never really runs right and I crash hard everytime I start it. Can someone maybe help me verify that it is me and not the heli...I would like some hope that I can eventually get this down and fly well someday... Is there possibly a better heli to learn on??

10karer 01-20-2003 11:37 PM

LMH is out of control
 
what pitch blade grips do you have on it

airshares-RCU 01-20-2003 11:44 PM

PITCH
 
I cant remember. I want to 6 degrees I used the set up recommended in the building manual.

It doesn't have problems climbing out and getting to altitude but it just feel impossible to get stable. Im always fighting it until it hits the ground 15 seconds later.

10karer 01-20-2003 11:51 PM

LMH is out of control
 
First check the rotor head make sure the paddles move very smoothly
Next set up the blades for 5deg pitch by installing one 4 grip and one 6 grip
Next add 4 ounces of lead to the chopper this will make the head speed higher at takeoff and add stability

airshares-RCU 01-20-2003 11:53 PM

Thank you
 
I will try this. Thank you for the advice.

JTerrell 01-21-2003 12:16 AM

LMH
 
Sell it and buy a Raptor!

Sylvain 01-21-2003 12:20 AM

LMH is out of control
 
Be sure that you don't have the gyro working in the wrong direction.

Sylvain

airshares-RCU 01-21-2003 12:29 AM

LMH is out of control
 
Im looking into buying a raptor as we speak. It seems to me a bigger, heavier heli would be more stable and thus easier to learn on.

darthdrk 01-21-2003 02:12 AM

LMH is out of control
 
If it is pilot error or even some adjustments need to be made, what makes you think that you are going to have more success with a raptor. ????? The guy who suggested that you go and sell it and get a raptor wont be there when you fire that baby up and pull pitch. I just got finished looking at some pics of an experienced flyer who had a raptor and it crashed. Well, he said that the whole thing was totaled. practically noting was salvagable except one rotor blade. If you are discourage with the LMH what are you going to be when your raptor decides to become a lawn dart ????. As far as the Lmh is concerned, yes you may have a problem and it most likely something isnt right. Mabey its not built as correctly as you may think. mabey something is to tight or to loose mabey its not balanced correctly.
When I started flying I started with the LMH I was so sure i was doing everything right. It took me quite a while to get the hang of it but during that time, I always blamed it on the Helicopter and not myself. Ive come to find out if it is built right it will fly right. Getting a bigger Heli isnt really the answer if you a beginner. You probably have one of the best Helis for a beginner there is.With alot of practice you will get over the humps. Im looping and rolling mine now some people think Im crazy because I like to fly up and down my street(I dont advise this or is promoting this). When flying on my street its mostly just for maintenance and preparation before going to the field or park. Besides my street is pretty large with a cul de sac with a small park like island in the middle. Make sure everything checks out. I can guarantee if you had a raptor and you go out and wreck it youll probably be discouraged with Helis and never want to fool with them again. My suggestion is to stick it out, go over your construction, Call Litemachines if you have to or find someone close to you who flies a LMH... This is a little more than my 2 cents worth, say about 2 1/2 cents :)

N111KX 01-21-2003 02:19 AM

LMH is out of control
 
Well put Darthdrk. That Craptor pilot must be jealous or perhaps he is just lost in the forums...............

JTerrell 01-21-2003 02:56 AM

LMH is out of control
 
I had a LMH and I actually flew it a lot. It is just not what I consider a real helicopter. Also the cost of the LMH is what a raptor cost and you get a whole lot better helicopter. I will say the LMH is a tough little helicopter.

JT

N111KX 01-21-2003 03:02 AM

LMH is out of control
 
Not everyone who flies an LMH seeks a "real helicopter". I put my Corona in the back of my magic carpet and fly it in hotel conference rooms and parking lots on overnight trips. Too bad nitro is HAZMAT or more people would be flying away from home:)
Kip
http://www.springeraviation.net/

motorhead-RCU 01-21-2003 03:49 AM

LMH is out of control
 
First we need some back ground on your experience. It sounds like this is your first heli. If it is then best bet would be to find another LMH flyer and have them check out your heli. Then with some training gear you need to practice controlling is while not getting higher than 3". That is inches not feet. Once you can comfortably move the heli to where you want it then you can start getting some altitude. As for the stability, I can let go of both sticks for 5 seconds easy on a calm day. Yours when set up right should be able to do this. If you do not have anyone to help you then ask us. You do need to provide a very complete explanation of what the heli is doing.We will be glad to help.
Mike

darthdrk 01-21-2003 03:51 AM

LMH is out of control
 
I know that some dont consider the LMH a real helicopter. As I can remember that four channels and a fixed pitch was the norm for helicopters not really to long ago and also at that time what was a gyro??? Try flying a gyro-less copter. All these new electronics just made flying easier. At the same time I have an eight year old son and as for the real helicopter bit, I will not give him the helicopter and transmitter and say go have fun. Will you??? I do consider it a real helicopter (rc model) Get hit with one of them or stick your hand in the rotor blades and then say its not . Really its how you look at it. By the way what makes a "real helicopter" anyway, being 3D capable?
Actually if you look at the full size helis (the kind you fly in) I dont see any of them hovering up side down or doing any kind of 3d flying. I use to be a mechanic on them and have flown them. Yea, do some 3Ding in those and youll be growing some nice looking daisies, if you know what I mean...Oh well what ever...

10karer 01-21-2003 04:03 AM

LMH is out of control
 
well put darth!!!!:D

Joe K 01-21-2003 10:29 AM

LMH is out of control
 
I have a question airshares.
How are you on the Flight simulator?
Or did you just go for it?
Heli's are not easy or they wouldn't be so much fun.

Joe K 01-21-2003 10:31 AM

LMH is out of control
 

Originally posted by 10karer
well put darth!!!!:D
I agree to! :)

Joe K 01-21-2003 10:53 AM

???????????????
 

Originally posted by JTerrell
I had a LMH and I actually flew it a lot. It is just not what I consider a real helicopter. Also the cost of the LMH is what a raptor cost and you get a whole lot better helicopter. I will say the LMH is a tough little helicopter.

JT

1. A real heli carries people!
2. Is a Heli radio more than a 4 channel aircraft radio?
Is a size 30 motor cheaper than a .06? or Atomic Force?
I would not put a cheap piezo gyro in a 30 size that could take my head off.
Will a crash with the raptor be under $0 to $20.
3. Better heli yes for 3D.
You would have a better argument with a Hawk Sport.
4. Dude your in the wrong neck of the woods.

airshares-RCU 01-21-2003 05:26 PM

LMH is out of control
 
You all have some good points. Im not blaming it on the Lite Machine Heli, I just cant tell if it is the heli that has a problem with the set up or if it is just harder to fly than I thought. I dont think I can take my fingers away from the stick for more than a second or it will drift away. I have never seen anyone else flying a lite machine around my area. I can fly in Camarillo or the Southern California area. Anyone out there??

Wright Flyer 01-22-2003 05:19 PM

LMH is out of control
 
airshares,

How do you get on in the simulator you use? - Aren't you able to compare how you are doing there against the real model?

Cliff

airshares-RCU 01-22-2003 05:33 PM

LMH is out of control
 
I dont have a simulator. I was just looking for one of those to try out. I just started flying it by trial and error. I started with small hovers like about 3 to 5 feet in the air. I was doing pretty good at that but usually would crash land after about 15 20 seconds. So i decided to just get it going right from the start by gassing it and getting it way up into the air then I would put it in foward flight and try to fly it in a circle but i just lose control of it eventually because well........i dont know what im doing.....i can fly aircraft but that doesn't really help much.

darthdrk 01-22-2003 05:41 PM

LMH is out of control
 
Aaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darthdrk 01-22-2003 05:42 PM

LMH is out of control
 
I almost cant believe what I heard(read).

darthdrk 01-22-2003 05:46 PM

LMH is out of control
 
At least Download the free FMS flight simulator. Practice with the hughes model heli. You talk about brave. Youre brave. Its not Realflight but it will help. I can see you now with a Raptor............
people running everywhere.

flyinrog 01-22-2003 11:26 PM

LMH is out of control
 
hahahahaha! not laughin at ya airshare, that was pretty much my plan too. :) I can fly a plane but so far Ive only gotten an inch off the ground and now I'm waiting on parts from LMH, :rolleyes: So I figured hey, next time I just blast off and get away from the problem (ie. ground) so I can get it figured out ..apparently this is not the correct procedure.......The fms download , not good enough at puters to go that way yet......dont you have to buy a fake tx to practice with?.. how good is fms anyway, all I ever hear about is G-2 ...and not spending that kind of $, I already sit in front of this thing too much as it is.....So Darth what is the next step without the simulator, just stay low to the ground? and does the arlton gyro work ok? get me flyin and I'll buy a hughes from you, deal?
Rog :D


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