when will the 2006 imac knowns be released?

The IMAC site has all the scoop. Currently there is a comment period for Basic through Advanced. Unlimited proposals are not yet out. Once the Board receives comments they will make final selections. No firm date has been set. I suspect that the final sequences will be out sometime in November or maybe early December. They do not take effect until January 1, 2006. I do know that Board is working as fast as they can on this.

Have not visited the site to check yet but had an e-mail that said unlimited is now posted and up for comments.

I couldnt find anything on the website even mentioning proposals, etc.

Are you a current IMAC member?
If not, you wont be able to view them.

Yes I am, where are they listed?

Look under "Members Only" - "National news".

Ryan

Unlimited is NOT out. All other categories are...

OK, somebody tell me which way the rolling circle goes in Intermediate. Last year it was upright to upright. This year it was inverted to inverted. I figure 2006 must go knife edge to knife edge....

I am not an IMAC member... yet.

I have downloaded the Basic sequence, have been studying it, and intend to give it a shot next year. Ryan lives near me and has agreed to provide some pointers, etc.

My question is... am I studying the wrong sequences? Are there any changes to what I downloaded (about a month ago)?

You may have downloaded the 2005 sequences, they have come out with the newer 2006 sequences for next year.

Here is one set of the three
http://www.mini-iac.com/Portals/57ad...2006/bas01.pdf

second set
http://www.mini-iac.com/Portals/57ad...2006/bas02.pdf

third set
http://www.mini-iac.com/Portals/57ad...2006/bas03.pdf

These three will be voted on later this year and will come from these three for next years knowns.

When you join IMAC you will be able to make comments on which one you like best.

Hope this helps.

All other sequences are on the IMAC site too, but must be a member to see and comment about.

I still can't see the Unlimited sequences...

It doesn't look like they are posted yet....


takes longer to draw with all those squiggly lines!

So, IOW, the 2006 Basic sequences are NOT yet finalized, and could indeed change from the 2005 schedule?

Yes, that is correct Steve. The Basic sequences for 2006 are proposals. One of those 3 could become the 2006 Known, or the sequence may be a different one based on the comments recieved by the BoD from the IMAC membership during this comment period.

In IMAC, the Known sequences are new every year.

Regards,

Anna Wood
IMAC SW Region
Assistant Regional Director

Okay, thanks.

One presumes that, once the sequences are finalized, they will available for downloading on the site?

From the look of it the there are only so many maneuvers for basic. One could still practice the individual maneuvers, entrances, and exits and worry about connecting the dots when the routine is finalized.

this is true.... you can practice with the 2005 (or the proposed 2006) to get the manuevers then adjust from there... would just help in understaning the enterances and exits for unknowns in higher classes....

I am about sure that they will be available only at the beginning of 2006 (or just before??) to everybody on the IMAC website. Only IMAC members can see and comment them now.

As a side note, every year, the sequences seem harder to fly. Looks like they are more and more adapted to the better performing planes we now have. I can't see how I could fly the Advanced sequence with my little 1/4 scale Cap 232 that I flew 3 years ago when I started flying Advanced. As an example. how can a small fast plane perform with SOME precision the 9th figure of proposal 1. Hammerhead with 1 1/2 rolls up and 1 1/4 positive snap followed by 3 of 4 point rolls in the same direction down. The up portion is easy but the down portion must be made FAST on a small plane as speed picks up really fast. People complained that they did not have time to see when I made 8 point rolls.

I really like all sequences though but I think they are not aimed on the smaller plane category...

one, you need to make your voice heard not only on the internet, but also to the imac leadership. two, it's probably true that intentionally or unintentionally, the sequences are being written for big airplanes, even to some extent in basic. that raises other issues, all of which have been beaten to death. it's also true that sequences sometimes do get tougher year to year in the same class, and again, this may happen without intent, but also without someone(s) looking out to make sure that the progressions are logical, not only year to year, but from class to class also, keep in mind that these are knowns, and while they may be ugly the first 20 times you fly them, you get to fly them all year. the downside is that the knowns set the tone for unknowns, and you need to go into an unknown without fear of burying your airplane. having said that i will get on my soapbox and say that i think over the last few years unlimited has gotten out of control, and instead of building up from basic, i think imac is dumbing down from unlimited. the shootout sequences are nuts. those of us who are familiar with the toc sequences know that compared to the imac sequences, they weren't that hard - but they were judged tougher, and that forced the pilots to fly better. TOC sequences were no more than 400k for 11 or 12 figures, that included inflated K factors. not being an imac or for that matter even an ama member, i should probably be ignored, but I would like to see unlimited take on a more TOC look, and precision, instead of this-this-and this be stressed in unlimited and the other classes.

Thanks for the insightful comments. I see that the American competitive spirit, yet again, cannot be restrained. IOW, now matter how the originators intended to create a level playing field, the hardcore guys insist on making it (WHATEVER the endeavor) an equipment race. That is one of the things that drove me out of my other hobby, competitive pistol shooting, and into THIS hobby.

And I swore I'd never get involved in organized competition again.

Oh, well. I think I'll still pursue this anyway. It is bound to make me a "better" pilot, regardless of whether or not I do any competing.

I am not that much of a competition flyer(basic class). Due mostly to laziness and a lack of willingness to travel very far to contests. But practicing the routines gives my flying a bit more purpose. There is a certain satisfaction in doing the sequence and ending up where I'm supposed to be and in the proper attitude. As far as equipment I have seen people do a pretty fair basic routine with a Funtana 40 plane with a 60 size motor on it.

when are the word documents coming out for the sequences that tell you what the manuevers are, how they are done, and where at. I can tell what some of the sportsman manuevers are and how they go, but not all yet. Would like to practice the 3 patterns this year already

It is obvious - IMAC is an equipment race -too bad
Anybody who does not pony up for a 40 %model and transport need not apply.
Sour grapes?
No-just tired of seeing the fun knocked out of the event.
It is very obvious to even the newer flier that larger planes are easier to fly and fly well.
The cost of the latest /largest stuf is not a big deal to the hard core competitors.
The really proficient may even have a sponsership that takes a lot of the sting out of it.
Pattern did the same thing -evolving into a perceived need for very expensive planes and engines.
Marketing of products for the hobby helps drive this "need".
The old "move up" thing is all part of the plan.
Same thing with autos - The market people want you to spend as much as they can convince you to part with.
$60,000 for a grocery getter --
I built planes for TOC starting in the 1970's-into the 1990's- not all that expensive then but the desire to really provide a show for the crowd at the TOC really ramped up the cost and size. With that new equipment available to anyone, IMAC made a mad dash into the same size type stuff and the market was happy to provide even newer bits n pieces .
It happens in all motorsports.
Try to field even the cheapest dragster-on gasoline -
The "rice burners" have created a new sub class on drag racing -and simply ignore the NHRA classes.
The 2006 patterns promise to be even more involved than the 2005.
As CD for our events -getting good judges has become harder each year.
It all goes right to the heart of the problem - trying to make the event a more technically complicated playground which challanges the core group and excites (hopefully) the potential new IMAC participant.
A progressive skill event -it aint anymore. It is far more complicated than full scale aerobatics and the inclusion of the judged free style further complicates an event .
If you are a hard core competitor --none of this will bother you .

Dick, I do understand this impression. I for one can fly most if not all of the Basic through Intermediate routines. Some of the Advanced ones give my nerves a run for the money, but if you know what the maneuver is suppose to look like then I do a good Picasso in the sky!

I fly Sportsman because it is where I will not come in last. My friends think I should move up but I know some of the contest I will be in last. I am a lot like EC121. I do it for self gratification. I also enjoy the friendship. I know of others that do it to win. I don't care. It would be nice to bring home some wood and if I had the latest stuff and someone skilled to set it up to fly perfect, I would probably come in second or third, but I don't do this. I just like the fellowship and seeing myself improve.