New Horizon/Eflite Cap, Looks Cool!
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From: Quincy,
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Has anyone built or flown one? Mine is on order and I have all the electric goodies ready for installation. I'm going to try to build it super light with a Park400 outrunner and 730mAh 3s TP lipo, (4) s75 servos, 20A esc. If its lacking power I'll bump up to the Park450. I really like the transparent blue. Very cool!
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EFL2400
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EFL2400
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I got mine last saturday! I built it the same night, it only takes about 3-4 hours to get it built and set up. It is a cute little bugger! I decided on a light setup so I could fly it in the local gym...I used a Eflite park 400 outrunner, 20A ESC, 730mAh 3s TP lipo, and s75 servos all around. Ready to fly weight is 14.1 oz. I don't have a full flight report as of yet due to the 15 mph wind on my maiden, but I can say that this setup is plenty of power for 3d with good punch out. The park450 and 1320 lipo would obviously provide ballistic vertical performance, but at the cost of higher wing loading. Mine floats like a feather at 14oz so Im sure those choosing to run the heavier setup won't be dissapointed either.
Build notes:
1. Be careful removing the covering in the glue area on the wing, the balsa sheeting is very thin!
2. The servo holes are undersized for a s75 to fit properly. Be prepared to do some cutting on all of them. The rudder and elevator servo holes are especially small, and theres not a lot of wood around them to cut on. Make sure to leave a little material for your servo mounting screws to bite into.
3. Check for fuse twist after mounting the wing. My parts were all straight and true out of the box, but the wing is a very tight fit and it caused a little twist in the fuse when installed. A touch of light sanding fixed it.
4. Only use one drop of CA per hinge. Any more just drips out the other side of the hinge gap and onto your jeans.
Pros:
exteremely quick build
No servo extensions needed! If you are useing s75 servos all of the leads reach the receiver. I love it! Good job Eflite!
Beautiful construction, very light, nice covering job, all around quality balsa work.
motor mount is simple and strong
seems to fly awesome, more to come on that after gym flying tonight.
prebuilt surface linkages...no cutting, no sizing, no bending. Just install.
landing gear is aluminum and looks sufficient to take a beating.
tail wheel! it works as good as it looks too!
Cons:
micro adjustable hardware is not dubro, but some plastic imitation. Seems to work ok, but there is a tiny bit of flex.
servo cutouts too small for recommended servos
hinge slots needed a little work, most were not deep enough.
Bottom line: Buy one!
Build notes:
1. Be careful removing the covering in the glue area on the wing, the balsa sheeting is very thin!
2. The servo holes are undersized for a s75 to fit properly. Be prepared to do some cutting on all of them. The rudder and elevator servo holes are especially small, and theres not a lot of wood around them to cut on. Make sure to leave a little material for your servo mounting screws to bite into.
3. Check for fuse twist after mounting the wing. My parts were all straight and true out of the box, but the wing is a very tight fit and it caused a little twist in the fuse when installed. A touch of light sanding fixed it.
4. Only use one drop of CA per hinge. Any more just drips out the other side of the hinge gap and onto your jeans.
Pros:
exteremely quick build
No servo extensions needed! If you are useing s75 servos all of the leads reach the receiver. I love it! Good job Eflite!
Beautiful construction, very light, nice covering job, all around quality balsa work.
motor mount is simple and strong
seems to fly awesome, more to come on that after gym flying tonight.
prebuilt surface linkages...no cutting, no sizing, no bending. Just install.
landing gear is aluminum and looks sufficient to take a beating.
tail wheel! it works as good as it looks too!
Cons:
micro adjustable hardware is not dubro, but some plastic imitation. Seems to work ok, but there is a tiny bit of flex.
servo cutouts too small for recommended servos
hinge slots needed a little work, most were not deep enough.
Bottom line: Buy one!
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Glad to here you like the Cap, it is a sweet little bird.
The servo hole sizes have been addressed, but I am not sure which batch will see the final adjustment. The ones currently in stock of course will be small.
As for the hardware, this is what was available from the vendor at the time of production. We have flown it extensively and have not had any ill effects. You could change to the micro Dubro parts, or our micrio E-flite parts as well. As for the hinge slots, that has been addressed as well and should be in the batch that has the adjusted servo holes.
Enjoy the new little Cap, we hope the Cap thing hasn't died and we sell a few of these. The light wing loading makes for some hot flying time.
The servo hole sizes have been addressed, but I am not sure which batch will see the final adjustment. The ones currently in stock of course will be small.
As for the hardware, this is what was available from the vendor at the time of production. We have flown it extensively and have not had any ill effects. You could change to the micro Dubro parts, or our micrio E-flite parts as well. As for the hinge slots, that has been addressed as well and should be in the batch that has the adjusted servo holes.
Enjoy the new little Cap, we hope the Cap thing hasn't died and we sell a few of these. The light wing loading makes for some hot flying time.
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Thanks for the update John! Glad to hear updates are on the way, but I would tell anyone thinking about buying a cap to go ahead and get one now. The few little gripes I had are so minor that its not really worth the wait for the second batch. The hardware works fine like you said and the servo issue is fixed in about 2 minutes with a #11 blade.
It really is unbelievable how much quality we get these days at such a low price point!
By the way, this thing flies the tightest waterfalls I have ever seen!
It really is unbelievable how much quality we get these days at such a low price point!
By the way, this thing flies the tightest waterfalls I have ever seen!
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From: Flower Mound,
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Already posted a flight report on another thread. I just had to chime in and say its the most bang for the buck I have. I have a new funtanaX that is now gathering dust since the cap started flying.
My only con is I had to install a battery strap. No biggie, plus Im probably past the design limits anyway. I tore a TP1320 off pulling up into a hover from hi-speed on hi-rates. It will literaly stop and sit on the tail.
Himax 2816-890
cc-25
TP1320
(have another cap in the box as a spare)
My only con is I had to install a battery strap. No biggie, plus Im probably past the design limits anyway. I tore a TP1320 off pulling up into a hover from hi-speed on hi-rates. It will literaly stop and sit on the tail.
Himax 2816-890
cc-25
TP1320
(have another cap in the box as a spare)
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Im flying the 400. I flew a few packs through it yesterday. The 400 has plenty of power for this plane. With a 730 pack I can punch out plenty hard, but my CG is too far aft with this pack at the nose. I swapped to a 900 3 cell and the cg is still a little aft but much better. The punchout suffers a little going to the 900. I'm curious as to what people are finding with knife edge coupling with the 450 setup. Maybe its because my cg is aft but mine tucks to the belly pretty hard in low and high alpha knife edge on either side. I am using 18% right rudder to up elevator mix and 12% left rudder to up elevator. I am running about 10% right rudder to right aileron mix as well. It seems like a lot for a profile plane. I need to try a 1320 pack to get my cg a little more foreward, maybe this will help...I'm worried that it won't have any vertical though. It may come down to installing a longer motor mount stick. Landings are a little tricky with the aft cg. I basically have to come in hot and drive it onto the ground or lock into a stable harrier and plop it on the gear once the tail wheel touches. The landing gear prefers coming in fast and greasing it.
Overall flight performance is good. I need to do some more work with the aileron differnetial to get the rolls more axial. Waterfalls are super tight, probably due to my low wing loading and aft cg. Hover and harriers are nice, like a foamie but smoother transitions in and out of high alpha. I think once I get the cg worked out and and all of the mixes dialed in it will be a great plane.
Overall flight performance is good. I need to do some more work with the aileron differnetial to get the rolls more axial. Waterfalls are super tight, probably due to my low wing loading and aft cg. Hover and harriers are nice, like a foamie but smoother transitions in and out of high alpha. I think once I get the cg worked out and and all of the mixes dialed in it will be a great plane.
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From: mullen,
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Thanks for all the information guy's. I just finished mine this afternoon to bad the wind was blowing fourty miles an hour I'm really excited to fly this plane. I took the 450 motor and essc out of my p47 thunderbolt I'm upgrading that plane with a 480 motor and a 40 esc. What i really like about the cap was how much easier it was to assemble compared to my flat out foamies. I had to build two of them just to get third one right. Anyways thanks for the information i'm off to start building gp reactor. I'm also ordering another cap tonight so i'll have spare.
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From: Corsicana, TX
Now that the plane has been out for awhile, does any one know if there is a set of carbon fiber landing gear available? The aluminum gear bends real easy and can not be straighten without breaking them. It flies pretty good without the gear. However, it does not belly land very good.
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I have had this plane since january and love it!!. its really light and does fairly good in wind. victory roll this plane would be great with a 450, there is no such thing as over kill in a 3d bird unless its to heavy. and allr have you tried using a vice or slightly warming the alumium with maybe your heat gun? that should do the trick. mine hasent really bent however. or you could put a hole in each gear side and put some small piano wire in the middle.
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I also have the 450 motor and love it. Amazing it will fly in 20mph wind, or course the throttle has to be opened all the way into the wind or it will just about stop. I do not know about the heating? It broke right at the bend off the fuse, I do not ting a vise would have helped. I thought about the music wire but was concerned about adding weight. Mine came out nose heavy. I am looking at different batteries to help in reducing weight or mounting the battery on top of fuse and further, toward the center.
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Now that the plane has been out for awhile, does any one know if there is a set of carbon fiber landing gear available? The aluminum gear bends real easy and can not be straighten without breaking them. It flies pretty good without the gear. However, it does not belly land very good.
Now that the plane has been out for awhile, does any one know if there is a set of carbon fiber landing gear available? The aluminum gear bends real easy and can not be straighten without breaking them. It flies pretty good without the gear. However, it does not belly land very good.
The Seagull models in this size use wire -and it stands up under all kinds of abuse. My XRAy / 480 EFlite motor is a typical example.
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I started on one of these tonight. I was in need of something to fly at SEEFF.
What about the Extreme Flight Torque 22T/930 on the front?? Will that work?
What about the Extreme Flight Torque 22T/930 on the front?? Will that work?
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From: Chattanooga, TN
I just got one of these yesterday, apparently with the shallow hinge slots - all damn 34 of them! Must be one of the older models. Atlanta Hobby sells CF landing for the PA Electric Shock for $15 that looks like it might work.
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Eh, my hinge slots were not deep enough either. A few swipes with an xacto solved that.
I'm running the Park 450 with a TP 1320. Vertical performance is outstanding and it still floats well. I get 11 minutes on the TP pack with moderate 3D flight. I rarely use full throttle.
I really like the plane. I think I'm going to get the matching Edge 540 to go along with it.
I'm running the Park 450 with a TP 1320. Vertical performance is outstanding and it still floats well. I get 11 minutes on the TP pack with moderate 3D flight. I rarely use full throttle.
I really like the plane. I think I'm going to get the matching Edge 540 to go along with it.



