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Old 09-26-2007 | 04:39 PM
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Guys,

I wanted a large scale F-16 so ordered a 1/6 scale Skymaster. Always like to go for my 'own' scheme so supplied all the pics/info for the scheme below and paid for it! Skymaster tell me it is now ready to ship. Looked at the website and now they offer "my" custom scheme as a standard scheme [:@]

Why offer "CUSTOM" schemes if you're then just gonna put it into production

Annoys me.

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Old 09-26-2007 | 04:54 PM
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Since you paid for the development cost why not offer it? They have the patterns cut out for it they might as well use them right?
Old 09-26-2007 | 04:59 PM
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Since he paid for the 'development' does he get royalties under IPR?
Old 09-26-2007 | 06:13 PM
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Excuse me................who owns that custom paint scheme? RDAF?? [8D]
Old 09-26-2007 | 06:16 PM
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If you don't mind me asking, how much did it cost to get the custom scheme?
Old 09-26-2007 | 07:26 PM
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Dude,,,,,, never ever trust shipping and buying and trading were ther is no trade mark, I was looking at that the other day ans said, wow I love that scheme I might get one because I love it,,, Well now I will not just because you asked for a special order, I hate that. Did they tell you they were going to copy it?

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Old 09-26-2007 | 07:39 PM
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I feel your pain.


But...as has been well documented here, there seems to be no business ethics in that corner of the world...or at least they play by completely different rules than you and I.....
Old 09-26-2007 | 07:48 PM
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You paid to have a plane painted in the color scheme of your choice and that is what you received.
So what is the issue here?




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Old 09-26-2007 | 09:33 PM
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I have to agree with Alan, not to defend Skymaster, but for the price you are actually paying for a painted jet and not for the exclusive. But you will have the first of the series though...
You may want to ask how much as US painter would charge you for a paint job like that...

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Old 09-26-2007 | 10:42 PM
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ORIGINAL: seanreit

If you don't mind me asking, how much did it cost to get the custom scheme?
its on their website.
Old 09-27-2007 | 04:41 AM
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but for the price you are actually paying for a painted jet and not for the exclusive
Hmmm, thinking about it, I guess that is true [] Just would have been nice to at least have the kit it 'my' colours in my hands before it was advertised as being available on the website

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Old 09-27-2007 | 05:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: mdurand

I have to agree with Alan, not to defend Skymaster, but for the price you are actually paying for a painted jet and not for the exclusive. But you will have the first of the series though...
You may want to ask how much as US painter would charge you for a paint job like that...

Michel
I disagree completely...he paid a premium to get a one-off. To be unique.

At the VERY LEAST they should have asked his permission. He'd have probably been flattered and given his blessing.

It's just rude, dude.
Old 09-27-2007 | 06:38 AM
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Forgive me Mark! [sm=cry_smile.gif]You paid for this custom scheme to SM to be the first one to have it from them. But I'm sorry to tell you that this scheme was first used by this guy, in an aviation design kit. You can look this pics in AD site.[sm=drowning.gif]

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Old 09-27-2007 | 06:49 AM
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Well actually I first saw a model in this colour scheme way back in 2001 in Thailand. My dutch friend, Marijn Pennix, test flew his huge F16 in this colour scheme. The model is available commercially

http://www.scale-jets.com/

Geoff.
Old 09-27-2007 | 06:59 AM
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Your rigth Geoff, I think that guy flew his in one of the prior Top Guns event or FJ. Don't remeber now. Also in JWM this year acording to you link.

So we have to stop blaming those guys who are selling kit to us. At the end they are giving very nice prices. The only guy I know can give exclusive is Tailor Made Decals. You sent him the special schemes and will save it for you. But at the end you have to do the paint job. I know this becasue I working a custom scheme for one of my projects. I saw the real one here in RCU but not the model yet. So if I want that scheme I will need to hurry befor some one else order it first.

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Old 09-27-2007 | 09:31 AM
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Guys, I am not saying this is the first time the scheme has been used!! I know that - I have seen the full size and Marijn's F16 several years ago and can assume that others have painted it themselves! I was just a bit miffed last night to realise that the scheme I "thought" would be fairly rare on a 1/6 Skymaster F16 was actually now available to anyone. The reason I didn't go for the standard TigerMeet scheme was because I wanted something a little 'different'. The fact that I still don't have mine yet and it is available to order just riled me that little bit more!!

Anyway, I'm over it - was obviously in a bad mood last night

Thread closed?

M
Old 09-27-2007 | 09:43 AM
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Hey Mark,

I agree completely with you. You put the effort in to get photos etc. and they reap the benefits[]

Geoff.
Old 09-27-2007 | 10:52 AM
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Did you expect any less from the masters of copying?
All kidding aside this seems to be a fairly standard practice.
I asked a graphics supplier about making a set of graphics for the Tamjets A4 and was told that since it would be
a popular model that he can do my set cheaper than the normal custom pricing since he would be able to sell
it in some quanity. If they Skymaster had agreed to do a one off they would have charged you a substanially higher price
most likely, then if they offered it to the public I would want to shoot someone too!

Okay to be honest I would be pissed off too! [:@]
Old 09-27-2007 | 11:07 AM
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Truth is if you want a one off paint job learn to paint. I do not fly. Off road 1/8th scale only, but i learned to paint my own shells and guess what, I am the only one with those paint schemes.
Old 09-27-2007 | 12:17 PM
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ORIGINAL: hrdcoreglf

Truth is if you want a one off paint job learn to paint. I do not fly. Off road 1/8th scale only, but i learned to paint my own shells and guess what, I am the only one with those paint schemes.
See you never Painted an Aircraft ... most of the paints used on jets require respirators, even full body suits..

Semper Fi
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Old 09-27-2007 | 12:32 PM
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Good point UJ!
Old 09-27-2007 | 12:43 PM
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I think you should get a free kit from skymaster.... maybe two...

since you were the one who :

Invested your Time.
Did the research.
Found the color scheme.
Bought and /or collected the pictures.

Its the color scheme that makes the "model"...you should not be..... NOT rewarded for your "modeling" work!!!
Old 09-27-2007 | 01:25 PM
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He just paying for getting it painted... nothing more...
Old 09-27-2007 | 02:33 PM
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ORIGINAL: Edgar Perez

He just paying for getting it painted... nothing more...

lol, YOU TIGER NOW ROGER! NO REFUND!
Old 09-27-2007 | 03:29 PM
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I'm painting an F-22 in Thunderbirds scheme. If USAF dares to ever use an F-22 for Thunderbirds then they owe me a Raptor............and I'm not sharing!


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