Electric Osmose Building
12-14-2007, 10:51 AM
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RE: Electric Osmose Building
Itzik,
You are allowed to take few hours break and come to fly with us.
We flew this morning in a very strong wind conditions. I was a hell of a practice of P09.
Don't forget us...
Amram
You are allowed to take few hours break and come to fly with us.
We flew this morning in a very strong wind conditions. I was a hell of a practice of P09.
Don't forget us...
Amram
12-15-2007, 02:44 AM
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RE: Electric Osmose Building
ORIGINAL: Andy P.
Hi Isaac,
Will you be documenting the painting stage of your build?
Regards,
Andy.
Hi Isaac,
Will you be documenting the painting stage of your build?
Regards,
Andy.
Yes, with pleasure
Regards,
Isaac Najary
12-19-2007, 02:44 AM
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RE: Electric Osmose Building
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Hi Santiago
I am very glad that now we could have some official answers to our questions.
I started this post due to the lack of manual instructions, as an ardent fan of CPRL designs I recommended all my friends here in Israel to order the Osmose kit and I promised to help them to build the kits. (6 planes were ordered).
Here are some requests/questions:
1. Please review this post from the beginning and let us know if I made any mistake in connection with the structure or the facade of the plane.
2. Please continue to review this post and let us know if you have any comments or guidance.
3. Please tell us these essential data (CPRL always provides them with his designs):
A. CG location.
B. Wing incidence (Relative to the stab)
C. Te Canalizer incidence (Relative to the stab or the wing)
D. Location of the Te Canalizer.
E. Recommendation for the controls throw ( High and low) and expo.
F. Wing dihedral.
Thanks in advance,
Isaac Najary
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Hi Santiago/Marcelo , any news on the the above very important info requested by Isaac (point 3)? Could you please advise urgently as we will require this info shortly . Whilst on the subject can you also please advise ,if plane is fitted with a IC motor , does it have a tendancy to be nose heavy or tail heavy ? This info I require whilst building so that I can move things around to avoid balancing problems later .
Thanks & Brgrds
Juan
12-19-2007, 03:18 AM
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RE: Electric Osmose Building
Hi Isaac , from your pictures please clearify the following for me on the Belly pan attachment . What are the little black squares on each side of the locating pins ? On the front of the Belly pan you have a small bolt - are you going to use this to bolt the Belly pan down through the air intakes you made in the Belly pan ?
Thanks
Juan
Thanks
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12-19-2007, 03:00 PM
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RE: Electric Osmose Building
ORIGINAL: jnp
Hi Isaac , from your pictures please clearify the following for me on the Belly pan attachment . What are the little black squares on each side of the locating pins ? On the front of the Belly pan you have a small bolt - are you going to use this to bolt the Belly pan down through the air intakes you made in the Belly pan ?
Thanks
Juan
Hi Isaac , from your pictures please clearify the following for me on the Belly pan attachment . What are the little black squares on each side of the locating pins ? On the front of the Belly pan you have a small bolt - are you going to use this to bolt the Belly pan down through the air intakes you made in the Belly pan ?
Thanks
Juan
The little blake spuares are soft sticker which I use to prevent contact between the belly pan and the fuse (see picture).
Yes I am going to use the air intakes as an access to the bolt.
Isaac Najary
12-20-2007, 12:42 AM
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RE: Electric Osmose Building
ORIGINAL: Aussie_Knife_Edge
Hi Najary,
What is the black stuff you're using to colour the epoxy?
Cheers
Jason.
Hi Najary,
What is the black stuff you're using to colour the epoxy?
Cheers
Jason.
It is pigment for fiberglass, can be found in stores that sell fiberglass materials.
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12-21-2007, 02:54 AM
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RE: Electric Osmose Building
ORIGINAL: jnp
I am very glad that now we could have some official answers to our questions.
I started this post due to the lack of manual instructions, as an ardent fan of CPRL designs I recommended all my friends here in Israel to order the Osmose kit and I promised to help them to build the kits. (6 planes were ordered).
Here are some requests/questions:
1. Please review this post from the beginning and let us know if I made any mistake in connection with the structure or the facade of the plane.
2. Please continue to review this post and let us know if you have any comments or guidance.
3. Please tell us these essential data (CPRL always provides them with his designs):
A. CG location.
B. Wing incidence (Relative to the stab)
C. Te Canalizer incidence (Relative to the stab or the wing)
D. Location of the Te Canalizer.
E. Recommendation for the controls throw ( High and low) and expo.
F. Wing dihedral.
Thanks in advance,
Isaac Najary
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Hi Santiago/Marcelo , any news on the the above very important info requested by Isaac (point 3)? Could you please advise urgently as we will require this info shortly . Whilst on the subject can you also please advise ,if plane is fitted with a IC motor , does it have a tendancy to be nose heavy or tail heavy ? This info I require whilst building so that I can move things around to avoid balancing problems later .
Thanks & Brgrds
Juan
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Santiago/Marcelo ........any news on the above ??
Thanks
Juan
12-21-2007, 05:00 PM
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RE: Electric Osmose Building
Hi
Thanks your comments about the model. I answered your questions.
-Basicaly is all correct , later I will show you same pics about the building process in factory.
-The CG will be located between 33-35% of the main chord. Then the pilot can move as he prefers.
-The incidence will be 0ยบ on the stab and T canalizer and +0.25ยบ on the wing.
-The base of the canopy is the 0ยบ of the plane.
-Firts models was placed just behind the clear canopy, and the new one is on the fuselaje about 10-12 cm behind of the original place.
CPLR had proved it and he didn't find any different in flight, but is better for vibration because the fuselaje is more strong than the canopy.( especially with four stroke engines)
-The basic control trought are:
Low condition :aileron 25ยบ, elevator 20ยบ, rudder 20ยบ ( expo 30-35%)
Snap condition more aileron a litte bit more elevator.
Spin condition full rudder
These are the conditions which CPLR gave me and I am using for the first flies.
-The dihedral cames from factory.
I hope is info be usefull !!!
Regards
Marcelo
Thanks your comments about the model. I answered your questions.
-Basicaly is all correct , later I will show you same pics about the building process in factory.
-The CG will be located between 33-35% of the main chord. Then the pilot can move as he prefers.
-The incidence will be 0ยบ on the stab and T canalizer and +0.25ยบ on the wing.
-The base of the canopy is the 0ยบ of the plane.
-Firts models was placed just behind the clear canopy, and the new one is on the fuselaje about 10-12 cm behind of the original place.
CPLR had proved it and he didn't find any different in flight, but is better for vibration because the fuselaje is more strong than the canopy.( especially with four stroke engines)
-The basic control trought are:
Low condition :aileron 25ยบ, elevator 20ยบ, rudder 20ยบ ( expo 30-35%)
Snap condition more aileron a litte bit more elevator.
Spin condition full rudder
These are the conditions which CPLR gave me and I am using for the first flies.
-The dihedral cames from factory.
I hope is info be usefull !!!
Regards
Marcelo
12-22-2007, 10:48 AM
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RE: Electric Osmose Building
ORIGINAL: CAMODEL
Hi
Thanks your comments about the model. I answered your questions.
-Basicaly is all correct , later I will show you same pics about the building process in factory.
-The CG will be located between 33-35% of the main chord. Then the pilot can move as he prefers.
-The incidence will be 0ยบ on the stab and T canalizer and +0.25ยบ on the wing.
-The base of the canopy is the 0ยบ of the plane.
-Firts models was placed just behind the clear canopy, and the new one is on the fuselaje about 10-12 cm behind of the original place.
CPLR had proved it and he didn't find any different in flight, but is better for vibration because the fuselaje is more strong than the canopy.( especially with four stroke engines)
-The basic control trought are:
Low condition :aileron 25ยบ, elevator 20ยบ, rudder 20ยบ ( expo 30-35%)
Snap condition more aileron a litte bit more elevator.
Spin condition full rudder
These are the conditions which CPLR gave me and I am using for the first flies.
-The dihedral cames from factory.
I hope is info be usefull !!!
Regards
Marcelo
Hi
Thanks your comments about the model. I answered your questions.
-Basicaly is all correct , later I will show you same pics about the building process in factory.
-The CG will be located between 33-35% of the main chord. Then the pilot can move as he prefers.
-The incidence will be 0ยบ on the stab and T canalizer and +0.25ยบ on the wing.
-The base of the canopy is the 0ยบ of the plane.
-Firts models was placed just behind the clear canopy, and the new one is on the fuselaje about 10-12 cm behind of the original place.
CPLR had proved it and he didn't find any different in flight, but is better for vibration because the fuselaje is more strong than the canopy.( especially with four stroke engines)
-The basic control trought are:
Low condition :aileron 25ยบ, elevator 20ยบ, rudder 20ยบ ( expo 30-35%)
Snap condition more aileron a litte bit more elevator.
Spin condition full rudder
These are the conditions which CPLR gave me and I am using for the first flies.
-The dihedral cames from factory.
I hope is info be usefull !!!
Regards
Marcelo
Thank you for your answer.
Can you clarify:"...33-35% of the main chord", do you mean 33-35% of the mean aerodynamic chord ?
It will be clearer if you tell us the location of the C.G. on the wing root chord (fuselage side).
Thank in advance,
Isaac Najary