Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > RC Warbirds and Warplanes
Reload this Page >

Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Community
Search
Notices
RC Warbirds and Warplanes Discuss rc warbirds and warplanes in this forum.

Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-04-2009, 02:24 PM
  #1  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

It all started in this thread, http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8413482/tm.htm

I've come to believe that Royal never produced the J2M3. I've did countless of searching on this forum and many other RC websites and I've found nothing about this kit or any build threads.

I got the plans from Ebay and the wood from Balsa USA. The plans are in Japanese and metric. I've been going over them for weeks before I started and so far it's a pretty easy build.

First the specs:

Engine size: 25 - 40
Wing span: 50"
fuse length: 45"
scale: 1/8.5 (40)

And the color scheme:



It will have retracts including the tailwheel. I haven't decided about flaps. I haven't seen many 40 sizes with flaps, but it would look good for a scale job.
Old 02-04-2009, 02:26 PM
  #2  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

The formers:



Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ge94824.jpg
Views:	138
Size:	47.9 KB
ID:	1127392   Click image for larger version

Name:	Xs59502.jpg
Views:	114
Size:	74.7 KB
ID:	1127393   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sx60682.jpg
Views:	151
Size:	83.3 KB
ID:	1127394  
Old 02-04-2009, 02:28 PM
  #3  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Day 1

The fuse:


Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Fd92489.jpg
Views:	146
Size:	76.9 KB
ID:	1127395   Click image for larger version

Name:	Hd94582.jpg
Views:	146
Size:	91.0 KB
ID:	1127396   Click image for larger version

Name:	Pu50629.jpg
Views:	130
Size:	83.3 KB
ID:	1127397   Click image for larger version

Name:	Lf95572.jpg
Views:	140
Size:	91.0 KB
ID:	1127398  
Old 02-04-2009, 02:31 PM
  #4  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

day 2

Other half of fuse:

The halfs are not glued together since they need to be sheeted first. I stuck a couple T-pins through the joints to see how it came along.


Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Sq46479.jpg
Views:	116
Size:	79.5 KB
ID:	1127407   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ea84069.jpg
Views:	119
Size:	95.1 KB
ID:	1127408   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ye84194.jpg
Views:	140
Size:	97.7 KB
ID:	1127409   Click image for larger version

Name:	Lf95749.jpg
Views:	130
Size:	82.4 KB
ID:	1127410   Click image for larger version

Name:	Hs96724.jpg
Views:	162
Size:	83.2 KB
ID:	1127411   Click image for larger version

Name:	Fw28771.jpg
Views:	126
Size:	104.2 KB
ID:	1127412   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ce71906.jpg
Views:	156
Size:	84.8 KB
ID:	1127413   Click image for larger version

Name:	Hg20780.jpg
Views:	125
Size:	81.2 KB
ID:	1127414  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Om94088.jpg
Views:	133
Size:	101.7 KB
ID:	1127415  
Old 02-04-2009, 06:19 PM
  #5  
SCALECRAFT
My Feedback: (13)
 
SCALECRAFT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: MONTEBELLO, CA
Posts: 2,649
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

I have a friend that has a full Composite fuse and wing, cowl, for the Marutaka Raiden. He did a pretty good job on it. His is a bit of a hand full to bring back in one piece.

I should ask to borrow his molds, but composite fabricators are very protective of odd subject molds they really like.



Steve
Old 02-04-2009, 08:32 PM
  #6  
Warbird Nut
Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Milpitas, CA
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Looks great. I have a Hirobo 40 sized J2M3 thats next on the build list. I will be following this thread. Keep it coming.

John
Old 02-04-2009, 11:22 PM
  #7  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Thanks, I hope to keep this build interesting.

I finished assembling the stab and fin and test fitted it on the fuse along with the firewall box.

I've been looking over the retract plans and it looks like it's going to be a tight fit. I hope the the Robart 122 will work.

Tomorrow the journey of planking begins..

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Zw69358.jpg
Views:	122
Size:	80.0 KB
ID:	1127872   Click image for larger version

Name:	Yt60762.jpg
Views:	187
Size:	98.6 KB
ID:	1127873   Click image for larger version

Name:	Wb75831.jpg
Views:	138
Size:	107.9 KB
ID:	1127874   Click image for larger version

Name:	Qk21700.jpg
Views:	185
Size:	98.4 KB
ID:	1127875   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ep84370.jpg
Views:	136
Size:	120.7 KB
ID:	1127876  
Old 02-04-2009, 11:44 PM
  #8  
SCALECRAFT
My Feedback: (13)
 
SCALECRAFT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: MONTEBELLO, CA
Posts: 2,649
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

You should consider airfoil V and H stabs for such a nice unique airframe.

Steve
Old 02-04-2009, 11:57 PM
  #9  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build


ORIGINAL: SCALECRAFT

You should consider airfoil V and H stabs for such a nice unique airframe.

Steve
The plans call for 1/4" balsa to make the fin and stab. And the way the fin fits between the fuselage formers and sits on the stab has only enough space for a 1/4".
Old 02-05-2009, 09:30 AM
  #10  
Tommy_Gun
 
Tommy_Gun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Locust Grove, Va
Posts: 1,404
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build


ORIGINAL: Warbird Nut

Looks great. I have a Hirobo 40 sized J2M3 thats next on the build list. I will be following this thread. Keep it coming.

John
Hi John,
I am interested in the Hirobo ARF J2M3.
Where did you find yours? I would like to find one in the "50" size class.
I have already purchased the plans for the Marutaka Raiden and have a built plane from the same kit.
I am just thinking this would make a great and unique warbird racer.
Thanks,
T_G
Old 02-05-2009, 10:44 AM
  #11  
SCALECRAFT
My Feedback: (13)
 
SCALECRAFT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: MONTEBELLO, CA
Posts: 2,649
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build


ORIGINAL: 7aso


ORIGINAL: SCALECRAFT

You should consider airfoil V and H stabs for such a nice unique airframe.

Steve
The plans call for 1/4" balsa to make the fin and stab. And the way the fin fits between the fuselage formers and sits on the stab has only enough space for a 1/4".
You have decided to follow the plan as drawn, I see your point.

enjoy.

Steve
Old 02-05-2009, 08:02 PM
  #12  
OBDOC
My Feedback: (73)
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Panama City FL
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Nice plane. I'm going to start CAD work on a 1/4.5 scale one. The problem is that I have to learn CAD at the same time. It's a darn cool plane. Good luck with your build.
Tim
Old 02-06-2009, 03:32 PM
  #13  
Warbird Nut
Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Milpitas, CA
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

The Hirobo J2M I have is listed as 50 size and they also have a 25 and 120 size. You can place a special order from this site:

http://www.modelrectifier.com/index.asp

Or buy directly from this hobby store in Japan (requires Japanese text plug-in)

http://www.rc-champ.co.jp/Champ_Inte...onal_index.htm
Old 02-06-2009, 06:16 PM
  #14  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Thanks for the links. Looks like they have 3 different sizes: 41", 55" & 70" WS. The 70 looks good. Notice the paint scheme?

http://model.hirobo.co.jp/products/0014-901/index.htm





They also have some KI-61's http://model.hirobo.co.jp/products/0014-927/index.htm

Old 02-06-2009, 11:45 PM
  #15  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Got both halves sheeted today. Tomorrow, wood filler will be applied and prepped for final sanding. If all goes well I should have them glued together.

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Rp42352.jpg
Views:	140
Size:	71.3 KB
ID:	1129174   Click image for larger version

Name:	Kf12112.jpg
Views:	185
Size:	84.8 KB
ID:	1129175  
Old 02-07-2009, 11:43 AM
  #16  
Pippin
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: College Park, MD
Posts: 671
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

7aso,

your Raiden-fuse looks perfectly built. Great job! What would be your engine choice?

There is a Swiss company that still has some Marutaka Raiden in stock. I got a Hayabusa recently and alomst could not resist getting the Raiden as well (as a Chrismas treat). But the construction seems to be different to the Raiden since the Hayabusa requires lots of sanding.

I was looking into the Hirobo Raidens last year but it seems to be that the 50 size is out of stock. Hirobo`s Hien ist the best on the markt too and a nice choice. Forget Kyosho an VQ if you look for a nice Hien. The 120 size Raiden would be another option but pricey. I think she would cost me something around 700 Euromark. W/O shipping and customs/local VAT. There is a German manufacturer who is selling a 1:5 Raiden. Price around 1000Euro$. It´s a bit too much for me for a short kit (epoxy fuse and styro-balsa wings).

Yes, before I forget, here is the video of the 120 Raiden:
http://www.saito-mfg.com/photo-galle...a/raiden21.wmv

Cheers,
Michael
Old 02-07-2009, 01:20 PM
  #17  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Thanks, Pippin.

I'm not sure about the engine choice yet. I'm probably going to go with a 40 LA or a 46 AX for that extra boost. You really can't put that big of an engine on a 40, but if it was a little bigger I would put a 91 FS for sure.

Compared to all the other Royal/Marutaka kits I've built, the Raiden so far has been the easiest. I haven't done any carving yet and I just finished the fuse. I too have the Royal Hayabusa. Looks like a great kit to build!

I agree, the Hirobo Hien looks superb compared to all the other ARF's I've seen. I'm not really an ARF guy, but that would definetely be a consideration for me. I really like the qaulity. I also have have the Royal Hien but probably never going to build it since it's a really rare kit. I'm probably going to trace all the parts and scratch build it like a guy on here who did his Royal FW-190. Bigtim is his name.

Thanks for that link! Right-clicked and saved as on my hard drive forever [8D] That Raiden sounds mean.





Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Yw68879.jpg
Views:	109
Size:	49.9 KB
ID:	1129529   Click image for larger version

Name:	Je99044.jpg
Views:	119
Size:	52.9 KB
ID:	1129530  
Old 02-07-2009, 07:44 PM
  #18  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

I got the halves glued and sanded today. I'll finish up the firewall when I install the fuel tank otherwise it would be almost impossible installing it from the rear.

Next, while I wait for my cowl and canopy from my good friend u.s.wing, I will tackle the stab, fin & tailwheel.

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Sq45946.jpg
Views:	157
Size:	88.7 KB
ID:	1129765   Click image for larger version

Name:	Bx73937.jpg
Views:	124
Size:	86.2 KB
ID:	1129766   Click image for larger version

Name:	Kp33448.jpg
Views:	131
Size:	85.8 KB
ID:	1129767   Click image for larger version

Name:	Au57310.jpg
Views:	126
Size:	90.6 KB
ID:	1129768   Click image for larger version

Name:	Oz29715.jpg
Views:	127
Size:	96.4 KB
ID:	1129769   Click image for larger version

Name:	Bs14084.jpg
Views:	162
Size:	86.3 KB
ID:	1129770  
Old 02-08-2009, 12:00 AM
  #19  
Baldeagle
Senior Member
My Feedback: (7)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Lakeside, AZ
Posts: 1,736
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Realey looks nice. Do you have a link to where you got the plans? Thanks Rich
Old 02-08-2009, 12:18 AM
  #20  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Here you go,

http://cgi.ebay.com/Royal-Marutaka-J...QQcmdZViewItem

He's also got the cowl and canopy along with many other Royal/Marutaka stuff

Cowl
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fiberglass-COWL-...QQcmdZViewItem

Canopy
http://cgi.ebay.com/Canopy-for-Royal...QQcmdZViewItem
Old 02-08-2009, 05:45 AM
  #21  
Pippin
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: College Park, MD
Posts: 671
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

7aso,

It seems to be that the Hien is not avilable anymore:http://www.speedmodels.com/programme/marutaka_DE.pdf

According to Marutaka a 40-60 four stroke is possible as well in the Raiden. It might be easier to hide the muffler.

Like you I am not the biggest fan of ARFs. I have got the Hyperion Hayate and this is enough for the ARF experience. Though, I would give the Hirobo Hien a try.
The Tanganiku/Tettra Hien kit might be an alternative (beside the Shidenkai 50 and Hayate 60).
Or the plan:http://cgi.ebay.com/ROYAL-KAWASAKI-K...QQcmdZViewItem
And yes, I am trying to keep the Marutaka Hayabusa high and dry in the self as well. From time to time I have a look into the box.
Old 02-08-2009, 06:14 AM
  #22  
Pippin
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: College Park, MD
Posts: 671
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

Btw, here is the bigger Raiden I already mentioned:
http://www.modellfluggruppe-lsv-witt...iden/index.htm
http://www.modellfluggruppe-lsv-witt...en_2/index.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&h...&v=GAqt_VgnFJE
Old 02-08-2009, 10:37 AM
  #23  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build


ORIGINAL: Pippin

7aso,

It seems to be that the Hien is not avilable anymore:http://www.speedmodels.com/programme/marutaka_DE.pdf

According to Marutaka a 40-60 four stroke is possible as well in the Raiden. It might be easier to hide the muffler.

Like you I am not the biggest fan of ARFs. I have got the Hyperion Hayate and this is enough for the ARF experience. Though, I would give the Hirobo Hien a try.
The Tanganiku/Tettra Hien kit might be an alternative (beside the Shidenkai 50 and Hayate 60).
Or the plan:http://cgi.ebay.com/ROYAL-KAWASAKI-K...QQcmdZViewItem
And yes, I am trying to keep the Marutaka Hayabusa high and dry in the self as well. From time to time I have a look into the box.
Pippin,

That's good to know. I just might go with an FS56-A then.

If you get the Hien plans from Ebay, I highly recommend it. They are top notch and you can get the canopy from him too.

And thanks for that speedmodels.pdf link. I added it to my favorites.
Old 02-08-2009, 10:55 AM
  #24  
Baldeagle
Senior Member
My Feedback: (7)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Lakeside, AZ
Posts: 1,736
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build

7aso thanks for the link. That bigger Raiden is awsome. I have 2 Platt Zeros 80 in ws, a 89 in ws Tony, a 76 in ws Kate and a 84 in ws Val. The Raiden would go good with the rest. Thanks Rich
Old 02-08-2009, 07:16 PM
  #25  
7aso
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (27)
 
7aso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago. IL
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default RE: Marutaka J2M3 Raiden scratch build


ORIGINAL: Baldeagle

7aso thanks for the link. That bigger Raiden is awsome. I have 2 Platt Zeros 80 in ws, a 89 in ws Tony, a 76 in ws Kate and a 84 in ws Val. The Raiden would go good with the rest. Thanks Rich
Wow! That's an impressive line of warbirds! Japanese fighters are my favorite!

Please post some pics if you can!


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.