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Old 12-23-2009 | 08:59 AM
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My next dumb butt stupid move [] I forgot to check for the hard points when I hinged the elevators - of course, they were on the "top" where the covering was cut out to glue on the vertical stab. I am inverting the stab, making the fuselage cutout in the covering, and gluing the tail on the other side. Fortunately, I can get some of the cub yellow to cover the opening leaving the slot for the tail I am a bit surprised the hard points for the horns are not the full thickness of the elevator, but - I screwed up this one ! Easy enough to fix -

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Paul,

Use the Du-Bro Adjustable control horns like I did, there are photos of them back a ways. You can just harden the area with soaked-in thin CA before you install them and you'll still be fine. You won't have to flip anything.

Hope this helps.
Old 12-23-2009 | 09:48 AM
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PG meyer,
If you haven't already flipped your tail consider drilling holes where you need them and use CA to harden the area and screw holes. As you stated the hardened area appears to be fairly thin (probably ply). A little thin CA and some time may save you some covering repairs. Good luck,

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Old 12-23-2009 | 10:23 AM
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pgmeyer, it's not cub yellow; It matches school bus yellow pretty close. I had a spot to fix and tried using the extra peice of covering they included in the kit - It didn't even come close to matching - say what? [X(]. I then tried some cub yellow I had and it didn't match either. I did have some SBY paint and that matched.
Old 12-23-2009 | 10:26 AM
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edgeman55,

if you have them, could you post a couple more pics of your DL30 engine mounting. I'm getting tired of waiting for the engine I have on oder for over two weeks now and am thinking about slapping a DL30 in her in spite of all the problems.
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pgmeyer, it's not cub yellow; It matches school bus yellow pretty close. I had a spot to fix and tried using the extra peice of covering they included in the kit - It didn't even come close to matching - say what? [X(]. I then tried some cub yellow I had and it didn't match either. I did have some SBY paint and that matched.
It's the same as Sig's Yellow Oracover. In fact I htink they're the same covering. The red matches Sig's red Oracover too.
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I think I have those photos here of the adjustable horns.

There ya go. Just drill through for the screw, trim back a bit for the diamond plate, and harden the area and the drilled hole by soaking it with thin CA, let it dry good, then drip a drop or two of kicker into the hole before you put the screw back in (keeps the glue from gooing-up the screw) and the whole area will be hard and tough as nails. Really easy control horn, works great, and it's PERFECT for this setup.

By the way, I was wrong before, I thought some of these linkage parts were Sullivan, I've realized while browsing at the local Hobby Shop hardware rack that they're pretty much all Du-Bro, with the exception of the steering gear.. My apologies if I screwed anybody up with that.
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Old 12-23-2009 | 01:04 PM
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ORIGINAL: TexasSkyPilot

Here's where the Brotherhood membership stands as of today. If I have missed anybody who requested membership, please forgive me and ask again so I can get it DONE!

And so.....

Clip-Wing ‘Coupe Brotherhood

1. TexasSkyPilot –Jimbo

2. MobyAl – Al

3. OldFart1 – Jeff

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5. Ed – Ed

6. pgmeyer – Paul

7. AJsToyz – Andy

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9. GaGeeBees – Paul

10. Stickbuilder - Bill

11. Obee – Obee?

12. EdFly – Ed

13. Ken CZ – Ken

14. CKLLOYD – Lloyd?

15. T-Bone6 – Tracy

16 Sgillmore- Stacy

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Jimbo,

Count me in! I still love my PacAero Monocoupe, with the SPE26 sparkie.

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Old 12-23-2009 | 01:49 PM
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edgeman55-RCU,

We need a name to go with YOUR NEW NUMBER 17 !!! WELCOME TO THE BROTHERHOOD!!

Congratulations on having a white Christmas!

Thanks for lucky #17-My name is Gene and my friends call me Tiny.
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edgeman55,

if you have them, could you post a couple more pics of your DL30 engine mounting. I'm getting tired of waiting for the engine I have on oder for over two weeks now and am thinking about slapping a DL30 in her in spite of all the problems.
This is the only picture I have at the moment-Still have to run the linkage to the throttle and get a way to operate the choke-then mount the cowl.When I get them done I will post some more pics.The Dle30 monted up nice.
Old 12-23-2009 | 01:56 PM
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yes, please do, that's the part I'd like to see
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ORIGINAL: splais

It's the same as Sig's Yellow Oracover. In fact I htink they're the same covering. The red matches Sig's red Oracover too.
I do believe that Oracover is the European term for Ultracote. And if that's true, then it should be availabe anywhere. Check it out.

Ed
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Dgliderguy,

WELCOME TO THE 'COUPE BROTHERHOOD, DON!!!! YOUR NUMBER IS 18!!



Clip-Wing ‘Coupe Brotherhood

1. TexasSkyPilot –Jimbo

2. MobyAl – Al

3. OldFart1 – Jeff

4. TooLow - Pat

5. Ed – Ed

6. pgmeyer – Paul

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edgeman55,

if you have them, could you post a couple more pics of your DL30 engine mounting. I'm getting tired of waiting for the engine I have on oder for over two weeks now and am thinking about slapping a DL30 in her in spite of all the problems.
This is the only picture I have at the moment-Still have to run the linkage to the throttle and get a way to operate the choke-then mount the cowl.When I get them done I will post some more pics.The Dle30 monted up nice.
Man,

That's a pretty engine!
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ORIGINAL: mobyal


ORIGINAL: splais

It's the same as Sig's Yellow Oracover. In fact I htink they're the same covering. The red matches Sig's red Oracover too.
I do believe that Oracover is the European term for Ultracote. And if that's true, then it should be availabe anywhere. Check it out.

Ed
PA told me it was the Sig Yellow also the same as the Airborne Models covering. Not sure if you can still buy the Sig stuff.
I ordered a roll of the Airborne covering but it does not match my bird - nor do the small sample pieces AM sent me.
Merry Christmas to all!
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So does anyone know what in gods name this plane is ACTUALLY covered in and EXACTLY what the proper color name is in any brand that is actually sold in the USA? I just spent about 20min doing internet search and got noplace at all. There is no such thing anymore as Sig Oracover.
Old 12-23-2009 | 11:53 PM
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All, on my elevator inversion -
Great ideas with the horns, CA - etc. Unfortunately, I made 2 more goofs in quick succession:
1) Assumed the piece of covering they sent with the model was an exact match, it does not -
2) Stripping the old stuff before discovering 1)

On covering:
It looks like I will try some Ultracote Cub Yellow. My field box is painted Cub Yellow and it is about as close as you can get.

I have SIG Yellow Aerocoat, it does not match at all -

Thanks brothers for all the great ideas.
Paul
Old 12-24-2009 | 12:48 AM
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Here is mine . . . completed in September 2007. OS 160 for power swinging an MA 18X8 classic. She is a ***** cat. She has won a couple of awards for best civilian model in our local contests. Can I join the club?

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Old 12-24-2009 | 01:08 AM
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Splais,

The SIG covering is called Aerokote. It's a low temp. Ultracote like covering. I had to make some minor repairs to my Monocoupe and the Ultracote cub yellow that I had matched pretty well. It's not 100% the same color match but close enough. Unless you buy a covering film from the same batch there will always be minor color mismatches between batches.

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Anthonymio, we may have reached our limit for today......

LOL....WELCOME TO THE 'COUPE BROTHERHOOD, TONY!! YOU ARE NUMBER 19 !!
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Seagull uses Ultra coat, I had to contact a vendor because I have Oracoat and Ultracoat that seem to be the same colors. It turns our Oracoat is the parent name or company so they are one in the same.

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Old 12-24-2009 | 10:11 AM
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but which Ultracote, they have about four different yellows?
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You got me on that one ....
Old 12-24-2009 | 10:39 AM
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Call Sig. The colors on the Monocoupe are the same as on the (now defunct) Cox 1/5 WACO. I bought a roll of yellow (I think it was Cub Yellow) and a roll of the Red from them. Those colors match the colors on my 'Coupe perfectly.
If that doesn't work, send me a PM w/ your address and I'll send you a swatch of each from the rolls that I have. It doesn't sound like you need much.
Merry Xmas to the Brotherhood....
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Old 12-24-2009 | 11:03 AM
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I checked their site, but they have very little covering left in their lineup. thanks for the offer, yes, I just have one little spot on top needs fixing where I messed up stab install. I'll call Sig and see if they have any left; it's always good to have some extra covering lying around.


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