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Bronco Bob 04-27-2009 09:47 AM

REPLACE MY SUPER TRAINER 60
 
ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF ARE CLUB MERCER COUNTY RADIO SOCIETY (WWW.MCRCS.COM)
IN NEW JERSY TOLD ME TO BUY A GAS TRAINER AND HE WOULD TRAIN ME. I BOUGHT THE SUPER
TRAINER 60 BECAUSE TO ME IT WAS THE BEST I HAD FOUND ON ANY SITE.
ALEX THE TRAINER IN ARE CLUB HAS 35 YEARS EXPERIANCE WE WORKED FOR WEEKS ON BUILDING THIS PLANE JUST RIGHT ON APRIL 4 IT WAS TIME FOR ME TO START LEARNING. WE WERE IN THE AIR FOR MAYBE 5 MINUTES WHEN THE WING HOLD DOWN BROKE AND THE PLANE CRASH TO THE GROUND.
NOW. I HAVE FAXED YOU, I HAVE SENT 4 E-MAILS TO YOU, AND I GOT NOTHING BACK FROM YOU TELL ME YOU ARE SENDING ME A REPLACEMENT.
AT THIS POINT I GUESS YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER ME BACK. BUT ITS FINE WITH ME I WILL CALL IT A LOSS. BUT I WILL KEEP ALL THE FRIENDS IN MY CLUB POSTED. ON HOW I AM MAKING OUT
YOU SEE THEY CAN'T WAIT TO SEE ME FLY. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR NONE HELP. O AND HERE IS ALL MY INFO AGAIN. ROBERT W SHELLEY JACKSON NEW JERSEY 08527 TRACSACTION # IS 24194049041702015361418

opjose 04-27-2009 10:48 AM

RE: REPLACE MY SUPER TRAINER 60
 
The best proceedure is to PM John here ( nitrostaff1 ) if you need help with a purchase.

I'm a bit surprised that the wing hold downs were not gone over well enought to prevent such problems, buy the experienced builder.




Bronco Bob 04-27-2009 01:54 PM

RE: REPLACE MY SUPER TRAINER 60
 
IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE HE DID EVERY THING BUT THAT
HE SHOWED ME ALOT OF STUFF
WE REPLACED THE CRAP THAT COMES WITH THE PLANE WITH STONGER ITEMS
WE USED MICHENCAL HINGES
CUSTOM MADE PUSHRODS
REPLACED ALL THE SCREWS WITH ALLEN KEY BOLTS
SEALED THE AILERONS AND MORE
YOU KNOW YOU CAN CHECK EVERYTHING
BESIDES I DIDNT MAKE THE PLANE NITRO BALSA MADE THE PLANE

Bronco Bob 04-27-2009 01:58 PM

RE: REPLACE MY SUPER TRAINER 60
 
what dose pm john here mean

opjose 04-27-2009 02:05 PM

RE: REPLACE MY SUPER TRAINER 60
 
To PM John, find one of his posts ( nitrostaff1 ), and click on his name on the left.

In the subsequent screen, look for the "PM" balloon, and use it to send him a message.

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The wing hold down bolt areas are usually one of the strongest parts of any plane.

Some of these ARF's come with hardwood re-inforcement blocks for the wing hold downs, and I've seen people miss having to install them or not knowing what they blocks were for.


Most experienced builders will also use some mechansim to spread out loads on areas subject to stress or reuse.

I use large fender washers on the hold down bolt head areas to prevent wear and tear, and to spread out the load on the wood.


nitrostaff1 04-28-2009 07:52 PM

RE: REPLACE MY SUPER TRAINER 60
 


ORIGINAL: Bronco Bob

what dose pm john here mean
what's your order number?

John
Nitro Planes

Brycew 04-29-2009 02:03 AM

RE: REPLACE MY SUPER TRAINER 60
 
Honestly, correct me if I'm wrong. But If you upgraded the parts to "Better, stronger" ones, which broke off. Wouldn't you be at fault?

Bronco Bob 04-29-2009 07:20 AM

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honestly there is know way you ever built an ARF
because if you did you wouldnt be trying to tell me its my fault.

look i didnt design the plane. when i bought the plane i took it to
Alex he is one of the best teachers in are club.
MERCER COUNTY RADIO SOCIETY (MCRCS.COM)
we are one of the top 4 clubs in new jersey

i listen to people that have 35 years building and flying
he told me when he saw it. he would o told me not to by that plane
because its a piece of crap.

o ya just so you understand i would not purchase this plane again
but if they replaced it me and alex can fix the flaw in the design

it seems that you guys have all the answers and you dont even
listen to what i wrote. i told you the wing hold down broke

that means the plane was not the problem it was the wing

if i got another plane ther is nothing we would change on the way we built it
except the plywood they use to make the nub is not thick enough that is y it broke
and we can fix it no problem







opjose 04-29-2009 11:14 AM

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The wing hold down is a hunk of wood you install to prevent the bolts from boring through the soft wood of the wing.

Installed properly there is very little chance of it breaking with any ease. Typically the fuselage area where the blind nuts hold the bolts, tend to go first.

I've had several students show up with these planes at the field, and they have flown well and w/o any problems what-so-ever.

Bronco Bob 04-29-2009 12:02 PM

RE: REPLACE MY SUPER TRAINER 60
 
WHEN I WENT TO RETREIVE MY PLANE FROM THE WOODS
THE HOLD DOWN WAS GONE RIPED FROM THE WING
AND THE BACK END OF THE WING, WERE THE BOLTS HOLD THE WING ON TO THE PLANE
WAS STILL INTACK
AS A MATTER OF FACT THE BOLTS WERE STILL IN THERE PLACE WITH THE PART OF THE PLANE
THAT THEY BOLT INTO.

THATS FINE YOU HAVE STUDENTS THAT FLY THOSE PLANES ALL THE TIME
AND I BELEAVE YOU.
BUT WERE TLKING ABOUT THE PLANE THAT I WAS FLYING NOT THERES

IT IS VERY SIMPLE IF THE HOLD DOWN RIPPED OUT OF THE WING
THEN SOMETHING WAS FLAWED WHEN IT WAS MADE

THATS IT THERE IS NO OTHER REASON WHY THIS WOULD HAPPEN

Brycew 04-29-2009 03:07 PM

RE: REPLACE MY SUPER TRAINER 60
 
Sounds like a building error. Don't get your hopes up on a replacement.
P.s whats with the caps?


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