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Old 05-26-2009, 07:30 PM
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well overnight in Australia the cases of swineinfluenza doubled.
we talk about it at home as its on the news frequently. anyone
have any opinions or comments on it?

The one man in my state who has it was on the news and was
told to stay home with his family. the camera crew saw his wife
leaving, followed her and she stopped and spat out the window
at them. at the moment there is only one confirmed case in my state.
there was 23 over east, overnight it is 50. the person in my state
lives about 2 streets from me, and there negligent behaviour
somewhat infuriates me. they were told to stayhome and take there
medication and there not. mingling with the community making
people sick. disgusting. -maybe im overboard?
my2c. thanks.
please comment.
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I think it's a crock. It's just a flu, not the plague.
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Yeah, when it started here in the states the media hyped it like it would hit everyone really hard. But when all was said and done it was no worse than the normal flu season and was treated the same way. Stay home if you're ill and wash your hands with soap and water a lot. My daughters boyfriend works in a school where there were like 14 cases of it and all they did was close for one day and clean all hard surfaces. Oh, an I work in a large regional hospital several days a week and they have not had a single case come in. Really, normal, everyday personal hygene will most likely keep you healthy. Take care but don't get all freaked out by the media hype because thats mostly what it is - hype. 
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Much worse diseases out there that aren't covered nearly as much, if it all.
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hypes hype your right. im not worried just a bit pissed.</p>

i am out and about all day and too busy to see a doctor and </p>

often work when im sick. if i do get this thing, by the time i realise </p>

what it is, and see a doctor i could really be ill. these people dont</p>

care for covering mouths, or coughing into your shirt if you have to.</p>

as i said they spat at the news crew and are still socialising. it  will</p>

really drop us in the **** because we arent only not prepared, we</p>

have a "she'll be right" attitude and just get on with things. it could be</p>

anywere by now because of that. i think im just venting. keep the comments coming.</p>
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But you are blowing it out of proportion. It's simply a strain of influenza. Is there a flu season over there in Australia? Do you get this worried when IT comes?
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But you are blowing it out of proportion. It's simply a strain of influenza.

I agree.
If you want to freak out about something then go nuts about hand washing. That's probably the single most important thing that you can do to prevent getting and giving something. And yet people just don't do it enough!!!! There are lots and lots of studies that show that no matter how many people SAY they are washing their hands only about 65% - 75% of females actually wash their hands after using the restroom and only 40% - 50% of men wash after using the restroom. Think about that for a minute.... 1 in 4 female waitresses have not washed their hands after going to the bathroom. And half of all men cooks have not either....
That's something to worry about every single day, not just during flu season...
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But you are blowing it out of proportion. It's simply a strain of influenza.

I agree.
If you want to freak out about something then go nuts about hand washing. That's probably the single most important thing that you can do to prevent getting and giving something. And yet people just don't do it enough!!!! There are lots and lots of studies that show that no matter how many people SAY they are washing their hands only about 65% - 75% of females actually wash their hands after using the restroom and only 40% - 50% of men wash after using the restroom. Think about that for a minute.... 1 in 4 female waitresses have not washed their hands after going to the bathroom. And half of all men cooks have not either....
That's something to worry about every single day, not just during flu season...
Have you ever washed your hands a lot? It makes your skin crack and wrinkle trust me. Im not saying to not wash your hands but dont make it compulsive.
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Just nature's latest attempt to thin our numbers.
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 if you go about your life not being around any germs/bacteria </p>

you will have alot of trouble when you are exposed to them. </p>

i knew people in my workshop who would eat food when it was</p>

going mouldy and probably never washed there hands and they</p>

were never crook. your body builds up a tolerance. when we were</p>

in the wild we couldnt wash our hands and keep food clean. </p>

im not a clean freak or "freaking out" the flu is the flu, pig flu isnt.</p>

it is flu season here coming up (winter) and i couldnt care less.</p>

maybe i should have waited some weeks before posting.hmm.</p>
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ive already had my flu long before this all happened , maybe its some secret military biological weapon that accidentally got into the public. its crazy how they let it get into australia though , in one af the tv ads with the heat detection on people at the airport there was one person that was on fire by the looks of the screen they did nothing and let that person keep walking . the world had the spanish flu that killed millions thats scary. So we had the (mad cow disease ) ( bird flu ) and now ( pig flu )  it looks like that animals are becoming more used to sharing our human diseases , it started in mexico from UN HYGENIC handling and zero clenliness  from that pig farm . I know we are not allowed to talk about religon but i gotta say one certain religon was right from day one that pigs are a no no lol , i guess they are laughing at us now hey like i told you so
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the flu is the flu, pig flu isnt.</p>
Please explain...

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I guess what he means is that influenza (the flu) is a specific viral disease, which kills people in pretty short order. It has almost been eradicated in the modern world, and if you were to contract it, you would only survive if you were very strong and healthy.</p>

This 'swine flu', is not really influenza, it has symptoms which are similar, but basically, 'swine flu' is a laymans term so that people can know what to expect in terms of symptoms. Similarly, many of us when we have a very heavy cold say 'I have the flu', which is also technically wrong. If you had the flu, you'd be on your way to hospital.</p>

Anyway, if that's not what he means, it's still a nice little factoid. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size: 9pt">It's no different than the SARS outbreak in </span><span style="font-size: 9pt">Toronto</span><span style="font-size: 9pt">. Teenagers would be under quarantine orders to stay home and they would still go out to malls and clubs citing "They Have a Life", Most adults obeyed the orders as they were glad to get the time off or realized the penalties if they disobeyed the order. There were a few adults who were no better than the teenagers.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt">

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well overnight in Australia the cases of swineinfluenza doubled.
we talk about it at home as its on the news frequently. anyone
have any opinions or comments on it?

The one man in my state who has it was on the news and was
told to stay home with his family. the camera crew saw his wife
leaving, followed her and she stopped and spat out the window
at them. at the moment there is only one confirmed case in my state.
there was 23 over east, overnight it is 50. the person in my state
lives about 2 streets from me, and there negligent behaviour
somewhat infuriates me. they were told to stayhome and take there
medication and there not. mingling with the community making
people sick. disgusting. -maybe im overboard?
my2c. thanks.
please comment.
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I think like everything else the media was lowing it all out of proportion.  I think we should be grateful it isn't like the Spanish flu, now that would be a problem.  So far I have stayed fine by taking "normal" safety precautions, aka washing your hands and staying healthy . Also the fact that people (did sadly die) was also taken out of proportion, they failed to remember that numerous people DIE each year from the flu and they go un-reported. I think cut the hype and give good common sense information and we should be fine
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It's like The Stand all over again!  Gaaaahhh!


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It's been a slow news year and the talking heads have nothing better to do then scare the pants off a bunch of folk's who have seen Will Smith's " I AM LEGEND " too many times .




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Have you ever washed your hands a lot? It makes your skin crack and wrinkle trust me. Im not saying to not wash your hands but dont make it compulsive.
On days I work at the hospital I wash my hands several times an hour. It is a requirment to wash before and after touching each and every patient. So, yeah, I wash them a LOT. You can say don't be complusive all you want but when your granny gets anMRSAinfection because some idiot was too lazy to wash their hands you'll be suing and asking why that most basic precaution was not taken.
On my days away from the hospital I don't wash quite that often but for sure wash a lot more than I used too. Some of the stuff I see that could be easily prevented by better hygene is a real eye opener.
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when we were in the wild we couldnt wash our hands and keep food clean
Back then, we also had a life expectency of only 16 years...
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the flu is the flu, pig flu isnt.</p>
Please explain...

bird flu was only contracted from direct contact with birds different
bag of worms again. mad cow disease happened from the cows eating
bone meal wich is actually the "dregs" of the bottom of some river in
india. its not all animal bones in there. cows were eating diseased human
bones and we were eating them. these diseases have mutated from one
animal to another. now "airborne" from human to human.
to suggest that it is just a flu is stupid.

its ok sitting in america were your pretty switched on to it. people have been
alllowed to leave sydney with the flu. if everyone did what they were told
it wouldnt be so much of a problem. its taken too lightly here and
no one is even admitting the possibility of a problem.
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Bone meal is dredged from the bottom of a river in India ?

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the flu is the flu, pig flu isnt.</p>
Please explain...

bird flu was only contracted from direct contact with birds different
bag of worms again. mad cow disease happened from the cows eating
bone meal wich is actually the "dregs" of the bottom of some river in
india. its not all animal bones in there. cows were eating diseased human
bones and we were eating them. these diseases have mutated from one
animal to another. now "airborne" from human to human.
to suggest that it is just a flu is stupid.

its ok sitting in america were your pretty switched on to it. people have been
alllowed to leave sydney with the flu. if everyone did what they were told
it wouldnt be so much of a problem. its taken too lightly here and
no one is even admitting the possibility of a problem.
Mad cow disease was caused by the cows eating bonemeal of their brethren, nothing to do with rivers or India. When a cow died, it was ground up and fed to the others. Often the cow died because it was diseased, passing on the disease to others. The disease is in the form of a contagiousmisformed protein which infects neighbouring proteins it comes into contact with. They subsequently misform and the result is the breakdown of brain tissue making microscopic holes (hence the name bovine 'spongiform' encephalopathy), literally turning it into sponge, or swiss cheese if you like. Pretty nasty really.
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Bone meal is dredged from the bottom of a river in India ?

sorry my bad.
bonemeal <u>was</u>dredged from the bottom of a river in india.
the ganges river.
human bodies were thrown in the river in ceromonys.

if anyone has a educated or somewhat educated comment
it would be great, but this is just off topic and a little bit embarrassing
really.

on topic. swineflu casesin australia now are 103.still only one in my
state.
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my mate has a big hobby farm on his property and when one of his cows dies from natural causes he takes no chances and burns the whole thing untill its ashes . I just learned today that a woman from that works in our factory's takeaway shop has contracted the swine flu , i dont know how many days its been now since they knew about it cos no one from work told me untill today , i have to ask tommorow if they shut the shop for disinfecting of the area were she was working , lol i bring my lunch from home everyday and never stepped one foot in that takeaway food joint lucky  me , but i dunno cos everyone else from my work goes in there everyday .
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On days I work at the hospital I wash my hands several times an hour.It is a requirment to wash before and after touching each and everypatient.
All it takes is to see your first case of necrotic fasciitis, and washing your hands all the time isn't even something you think about anymore. I always use the sani-wipes on grocery carts, never put my hands in my mouth, wash my hands often - a regular Tom Griswald. 

I'm also one of the few lucky sufferers of Epstein-Barr that get the occasional relapse with symptoms. So anything I can do to prevent catching a virus, I do. I hate being ill. Fortunately, I only get those 'flu-like symptoms' once every few years or so.  And I bet half of those are Epstein-Barr (mononucleosis, or EBV) relapses.  I wouldn't be surprised if it killed me someday if I can make it to a ripe old age. Pneumonia isn't uncommon in the elderly when they get sick.

Influenza viruses can be pretty serious, but usually only to the elderly, infants and those with immunologic deficiencies.  <br type="_moz"/>

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