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Old 03-25-2006, 11:17 PM
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

I love the smell of fresh and burnt fuel. But, nothing beats the smell of burning JP-4/Jet A.
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

To get a good blast of that castor scent go to the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome in Rhinebeck, N.Y. on Saturdays and Sundays during the summer. WWI heaven!!!!!!!!!!

They have an R/C weekend in September too where all the r/c planes have to be from that period. Worth the trip.
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

Love the smell of Castor back from young days - 1953 or 54 and my McCoy 29. As I grew older like the smell of burnt diesel on the construction site and late the smell of burnt JP-4 out of jet. Still like that smell. The smell of freedom!

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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

Like I said, nothing beats the smell of a Diesel Submarine
Old 03-26-2006, 04:36 PM
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

I moved the thread over here....one of the moderators gets bent out of
shape if the topic drifts, and posts were getting deleted, and editted.

Anyhoozle...the smell of castor is one of the things that is addictive about
the nitro engines. Did you ever smell Cool Power synthetic oil fuel ? Man,
that stuff stinks. [:-]

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No kidding. I have had three deleted today for not having "R/C" content.
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

I'm glad you moved it FBD...I don't like my posts being edited because of a few lines of "non R/C" but still related to the topic stuff...

I definitely have to agree with you about the smell of coolpower [:'(] and that was one of the things that was in the back of my mind when I posted the first post of this thread.
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I hear ya'....I wouldn't put Cool Power in one of my engines If they gave
me the fuel. [X(]

I've been using some extra castor to bring the oil content up to 20% for
some of my engines, including the four strokes, new engines, and nickel
liner OS engines.

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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

I bought a gallon of the 30% heli fuel a couple months ago to test in some Saito and other 4 strokes. The first thing I noticed was the smell...
I guess it has a high oil content already, but I put 4 oz. of castor in it just to make myself feel better...and for the smell
I think that would bring the total oil content up to somewhere around 25% perhaps? 25% oil, w/ (not quite ) 30% nitro...

Does Fox still make "Missile Mist"? I used to use that in my Cox engines...I remember it was purple...and that it would make a K&B .40 w/ a 9X7 "power prop" really go...as a 16 yr. old kid, I couldn't really afford that much of it then. (1976 )


Anyone else remember "Ucon" oil?
Mid 70's our club used to get our fuel in bulk (55 gal. drums ) from a local industrial chemical supplier. One year, unbeknownst to us, they substituted Ucon for castor...
Old 03-27-2006, 09:08 AM
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I remember the name "Ucon", but I don't recall what the heck the stuff was.
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

You're right Dave. We used to call Cool power the green death when I worked as an engine repair tech. You could always tell an engine that was run on it. Rusty bearings and green residue inside. I run all my engines (glow) on 100% castor oil and 20% oil.
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

Ucon was one of the first synthetic oils to be used in model engine fuel. The start of the rusty bearing syndrome. That and cooked engines from lean runs. Synthetics burn off long before castor does. An oily engine from castor seems preferrable to a clean engine cooked with rusty bearings from synthetic. At least to me.
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

It was (is?) made by Union Carbide and was one of their early synthetic oils...
That was my first experience with the differences between Castor and synthetic oil when used in a glow engine.
Besides several guys frying their engines, it didn't have the smell, and that was the tip off...
My "mentor" who was a Navy pilot in WWII and long time modeler said "this fuel don't smell right" and called the fuel manuf. etc. etc. and unpleasantness ensued...

Aaannnyyywayyy...guess that story would go in your great Castor debate thread tho, huh Dave?
Old 03-30-2006, 01:58 AM
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You know, a Guy can run any darned fuel he wants. But that doesn't stop
me from cringing at the mere mention of "Cruel Power". [X(]
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

I fly 1/2A and am a fanatic for good throttling. I've had the opportunity to try various fuels on my small engines, mostly 25% nitro. My experience with Cool Power is that if you have idle and transition problems, very often, Cool Power will fix them. I prefer Omega with its castor content but have run Cool Power in Norvels for a few years with no problems. No bearings, no rust. But don't dare run CP on Cox engines.

But for the smell of castor, Cox Missile Mist comes to mind. A sweet, kind of burnt candy smell. Wonderful. Lately, though, I've noticed with some castor based fuels a hint of a fishy smell. Not offensive or overpowering, just a hint. Anyone else notice this? Or is it ageing oldfactories again.
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

Cox doesn't make Missile Mist. Fox makes it. Cox fuel was the best for small engines. The blue can was 25% and the red can racing fuel was 35%.

I have about 20 gallons of the stuff. Got it from a hobby shop that went out of business years ago. YS engines love the stuff.

You're right they don't have bearings to rust but the piston and cylinder, crankshaft and other steel parts will rust.
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Default RE: That special smell of spent castor fuel?

Hey all,
I seen a little ad in one of the mags that let's you add the smell of cherry, strawberry etc... into your glo fuel so the wife doesn't get PO'd when she washes your clothes with her's and her's smell like castor soaked pant's!
I was looking for the ad and can't find it so has anyone seen the ad?
If so could you spill the beans for me!
Wayne

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