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Just saw the movie; "Flags of our fathers". I thought it was really good and think it will be one of the better war movies out there. there was some good Corsair action even though a couple of them sounded like Mustangs. the movie brought a bit of a tear to my eyes because I lost my Dad earlier this year, he was a Marine in the Pacific in the next big battle after Iwo, Okinawa. man did those guy catch (heck) over on those islands. My Dad had me build a Corsair to honor the flying Marines for his war room years ago.

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Your model looks great!
Have you read the book? The two books that guy wrote the other one Flyboys (not the movie of the same name) are some of the best books I have ever read.

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I just heard of those books and that they are good.

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I've own them both. They are outstanding!

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While the move, "Flags of Our Fathers" is taken from the book by the same name, I was dissapointed that the "flyboys" movie has no relation to the book by the same name.

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Red, do you think they'll ever make a movie from the James Bradley book "Flyboys"? I can't imagine a movie even coming close to the book. I'd go see it, but would not expect it to follow what Bradley wrote.

Heck of a book, can't say I was comfortable at any time reading it.

Another one they'll never make into a movie : Iris Chang's "Rape of Nanking".

Best wishes,
Dave Olson

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[quote]ORIGINAL: Scar

Anybody who thinks it was a mistake to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki should read these books, specially Flyboys.

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Flyboys is an excellent book. I agree with eugor, after reading that book the dropping of the nuclear bombs is easier to understand. The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is easy to criticize now as we look back. Nobody in 1945 really understood the long term consequences of radiation poisoning, let alone genetic defects. All our leaders saw at the time was an early end to the war. My stepfather was in the 4th marine division during the war fighting in several major campaigns including Saipan. He was injured and recovering in San Diego when his unit hit the beaches on Iwo Jima. His entire company was lost. He has carried that guilt of not being killed his whole life. So, when we were faced with losing 1.5 million (estemated) soldiers invading the Japanese homeland or dropping a couple of new technology bombs, I think we made the correct decision. Not only have the Japanese carried the scars of the war all these years, so have the American GI's who the fought over there.

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I saw Flags of Our Fathers today. It was good but nowhere near the film that Saving Private Ryan is.

As for the use of nuclear weapons, I don't have a problem with using such technology in times of war. It's the strategic bombing campaigns and targeting of civilians in general that is immoral.

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Not an RC subject and at best is for the "Off Topic" forum however as long as it is here, I can't pass up the opportunity. The USA did not start WWII. Those that did got what they asked for. They could have ended it sooner. Using the term, "KILLING CIVILIANS", is simply a crock as the vast majority of military are simply civilians being dragged from their life into the combat. The only way to go to war is to go to WIN and anything less than using the most devastating weapon/s available with the most devastating result/s possible is simply a waste of resources. (P.S. I spent over 3 years standing alert with a B-47 loaded with thermo-nukes. Woulda' been no problem to drop them on any target in my war plan.)

The only thing Truman did right was using the atomic bombs. After that all our so called 'leaders' have cost this country dearly simply by losing in Korea, losing in Vietnam, and pantywaisting current actions. If you have the ability to annihilate the enemy then do so. Had Truman given MacArthur the go ahead for atomic weapons on the Yalu, demonstarting the US's resolve to stop such crap, then Vietnam would never have happened. This last 60 years of "did not, did too, did not, did too" baloney has done nothing but convince all that we have no guts to face strong opposition and will forever back down while pi$$ing away our resources except for those we GIVE to RED CHINA!

You better get your RCing done now, 'cause you aint gonna' be doing it another 50 years.

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Care to elaborate?

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HF, it looks like you did't read either of the two books[&o]

I had the same experience.

The biggest thing I came away from Fyboys with was an understanding of the hate that the older guys I worked with had for the Japanesse. It was very heavy reading and informative for me. Both books were excellent.

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OOPs I don't see any "Moved" so perhaps I had jumped from the Club House to here and let it slip by as usually I'm involved in other paperwork as I work my way through these forums. My story and I'm sticking to it. [:o]

The 50 years: Maybe this reply to another requested "thoughts" for a news guy says it. I submitted:

>>> Have all you Socialists / Liberal people of the news media, the
democratic party, and most of the Republican Party ever given thought
to the consequences of your drive to make this country again the Kings
and the Serfs? Can you not see that there will only be ONE KING and
that is the China that you so willingly now bow to? China will never
recognize YOUR nobility!
Between big-business, their in-pocket federal government, and the
socialist media, you will -- in the not
too distant future -- hand over a fascist USA to China, the next
world dictatorship.
YOU and YOURS are placing YOUR grandchildren,
along with mine, into a life of serfdom.
<<<<


Read Flyboys last June. Have not read the other. Probably will not. I was in grade school during WWII. Remember some from the nightly Gabriel Heater radio news. Remember more from relatives' stories, and from the events marking those relatives and parents' friends that did not come back. In addition back then the newspapers, radio news, and schools were not relegated to blasting the Country's Leaders, petting the drug dealers or other criminals, and giving away the country's production capability. _ell, back then they told things like they were. [>:]
I have several accounts from relatives that were THERE! 'Nuff said.