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Old 02-13-2007, 01:16 AM
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cool,

the rear part of the plastic belly pan goes on the outside of the fuse...i have the same gap between the fuse and wing and on my newest airframe...the plastic inner structure was set too low and it is preventing the wing from seating flush with the fuse...i'll eventually reset the inner structure...in the meantime, i just the taped the wing fillets down to the wing and she flys fine...let me know if you need some pixs for reference...
Old 02-13-2007, 02:08 AM
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alright i'm just glad to hear it wasn't just me. thanks
Old 02-13-2007, 11:18 AM
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As far as the wing screws I ended up taking some sheetrock screws and turning the heads down on a belt sander so that they were the same diameter as the recessed holes in the bottom of the wing. Then I took some hard plastic tubing and cut "collars" for the shank of the screw so that it holds the heads flush with the bottom of the wing. Of course the screws need to be an adequate length for this. The sheetrock screws hold great and they are much easier to work with than the little short screws that come with the plane.
Quicker, easier and easy to find and replace if necessary.
The previous owner of my plane must have cartwheeled the thing so that the rear center screw wouldn`t hold very well anymore, the sheetrock screws fixed all of these problems. On my plane the front of the plastic belly pan tucks under the cowling and the rear tab is out. This way you won`t hook anything with the front of the belly pan during landing.
Go back in the thread and you will see a bunch of photos.
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:00 AM
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P901, I love the paint scheme....

I tried to go with a a black/white theme with an all black bottom - turns out the spray paint I used for the black was an outdoor (fast dry enamel) paint so any white I tried to put over it simply melted off, lol! I should have it lookin' somewhat presentable by the weekend since it's holiday here in the US
Old 02-14-2007, 11:26 AM
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Thanks, kinda borrowed the paint scheme from that portrait of Heinz Bars plane done by that aviation artist Charles Wissen, the portrait is named,
"Bar Necessities", should be able to do a search and find it.

Send photos, I think we would all like to see your black and white scheme, sounds like it might look like one of those night fighters !
Yea, no flying on this end for a while, ice storm going on right now !
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:34 PM
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Hey Racingjeff1, not sure if your still having dramas - if so, you might need to get the receiver checked out. I had problems with mine after what i would consider a light crash...... as apposed to the major crashes i've had! The engine was cutting out at odd times, then would be fine - all sevos were still working fine.
Modelflight just swapped it over and now its all fine again! also if it was a nose dive the spokes on the drive gear break but then sit quite neatly back together.... but at high revs they move enought to slip teeth every now and then.
Old 02-22-2007, 12:29 PM
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awww man, talk about a heart breaker....

I took out my newly epoxied and "snow camo" painted FW out the other weekend and just totally lost radio control over it and the plane plummeted from the air at about 100 feet...taped her up and took her to a different location thinking there was radio interference - she flew for about 20 feet and then nose stalled into the ground.

I'm going to send the @#[email protected]#% PZ electronics back and see what they give me - I've had 6 months of perfect flights with that plane, no idea why they'd puke out on me now

Pix of the paint coming tonight, it's not gorgeous but it does look kinda cool heh
Old 02-23-2007, 02:38 AM
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Yeah, it's not great but I was going to detail it up a bit more, the under side is completely black - looks pretty mean but alas RIP Parkzone FW

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Old 02-28-2007, 03:39 PM
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heyas,

I don't know if i mentioned this earlier but i noticed this plane is kinda hard to handle in winds and just seems to have very wobbly flight due to what seems like light frame...during the time when i got really nice flights out of it, i actually was using a foamed nose cowl.

Yeah. When i first got this plane, as a total noobie, i foamed the entire plane with some of that foam window sill stuff you get at the local hardware store. That fuselage ended up being awkward and i eventually shoved it into a corner, but i did keep the foamed cowl - I foamed it with about a centimeter or so of space around the motor and gearbox. With a normal unfoamed cone I noticed a HUGE difference in flight (less stable).

As a rookie, could someone answer me this? The foamed cone was not realyl heavy, i'd say it waighed about as much as the nose weight that the plane comes with - did i mess with the aerodynamics or something by virtually encasing my gearbox/motor? it sure flew a helluvalot better imho....
Old 02-28-2007, 04:15 PM
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this model is on the tailheavy side...along with the heavy prop nuts, i added a little lead to the cowl to get her balanced and flying the way she should...once balanced, she flies great...
Old 03-01-2007, 09:27 AM
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Any way to do a balance on your plane and report on the actual balance point to see if it is different that what the handbook recommends?

So many of the posts on these planes are concerned with crashes that are blamed on balance it would be good to have a few guys write in who have had good results with the balance that they use and then as the information comes in an average balance point would emerge that could be trusted.
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:25 PM
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Hey guys, As the English weather has been unflyable for a while, i thought id use some computer trickery to create dogfight pics of my mustang and a friends 190, taken from seperate video aerial footage and superimposed together. I should have enough video footage by the summer to put together a dogfight movie.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:00 PM
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Good show !

Very nice job.

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Old 03-06-2007, 01:22 AM
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Old 03-09-2007, 12:30 AM
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i have a airo bird chalenger and i can fly it prety well and im thinking abought geting the FW-190 from park zone would this be a good step up from the airo bird ore would it be to big of a step i was woundering abought how much faster does the FW-190 go then the airo bird chalenger
Old 03-09-2007, 06:41 AM
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Hey manuel frias, I flew the Airobird Swift...To get some airilon (spelling?) training, and have just bought a Parkzone Spitfire....have gotten 7 flights on her, and No problems...cant say for sure about the 190, But the Spitfire flies nice.....my 2 cents in......Good Luck, Take care.....Steve.
Old 03-09-2007, 08:27 AM
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Manuel,
The Swift would be better training, but the AB Challenger will train you just fine. The big thing about the warbirds is the extra speed, and then go where you point them. The trainers will recover to a level position, and a warbird will not. Plus the speed is almost twice as fast, so you half only half the reaction time to figure things out.

I would say if you have gotten really good with the AB Challenger, you should do fine. Start carefully, and stay away from full throttle until you get comfortable with the low-wing performance. You'll do fine. Fly in big open spaces, because you are going to cover a lot more ground faster.

AB Challenger cruises at about 20-30 mph. It can probably get up to 35-40 mph at full throttle. Fw-190 cruise at about 40-50 mph. Fw-190 will do 60 mph with a LiPo in a high speed pass!
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ORIGINAL: tclaridge

AB Challenger cruises at about 20-30 mph. It can probably get up to 35-40 mph at full throttle. Fw-190 cruise at about 40-50 mph. Fw-190 will do 60 mph with a LiPo in a high speed pass!
heh, Speed Passes are fun but...i used to LOVE taking mine up high and come down at about a 45 degree angle death dive with full WoT and then pull up at the last millisecond for a full 90 vertical upward....then stall and level out
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Also iv bin looking at the striker which plane do you think would be better/ easer transitioning to from a airobird.
Old 03-09-2007, 08:42 PM
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FW190 for shure. I jumped up from the J-3 cub to the FW190 and had no problem.
Old 03-18-2007, 11:15 PM
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ORIGINAL: P901911

Any way to do a balance on your plane and report on the actual balance point to see if it is different that what the handbook recommends?

So many of the posts on these planes are concerned with crashes that are blamed on balance it would be good to have a few guys write in who have had good results with the balance that they use and then as the information comes in an average balance point would emerge that could be trusted.
P901
i have mine balanced at 60mm...not using the heavy prop nuts but i do have 1.5 oz of lead in the cowl...to use most of the batt's weight, i insert it vertically rather than laying horizontally in the batt tray...link is to a vid at rcg...



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Old 03-19-2007, 07:21 AM
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You got that thing going NICE dad !

That is 60mm from the leading edge?
What do you have for aileron/elevator throw?
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:38 PM
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p9,

thanks...60mm from the le...aileron and elevator throws are 3/8" with 30% expo dialed in...
Old 03-26-2007, 10:53 AM
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Got my wings on a GWS tigermoth, and built a "Super Dooper Cub" (HZ Super Cub with my own gear and brushless setup that sports alerons).

So I thought I was ready for a FW-190.

After reading the thread and discovering that hand launching can be tricky I mounted landing gear (thanks roushd1r... right on with the Landig Gear! Big Help!). Went ahead and added the nose weight and got her to balanced on the bubble, then had my maden! She flew tail heavy, so I brought her down thankfully to to a nice soft landing! On my second attempt I slid the battery as far forward as it would go and got her a little nose heavy. Much better, no more roller costing, but very sluggish, I had to run at 90% + to keep it in the air! So I wedged in a Vampower 11.1/ 1340 lipo... man what a difference! Now it flies with authority! Just wanted to share... Great Plane!

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Default RE: ParkZone NEW FW-190 Butcher Bird

Help Please. My 190 has lain dormant for a while due to bust gearing, I have finally got the bits to repair but am having a problem. What order do I put all the washers and nuts etc on in? I took it apart awhile back and am really struggling. When I fire it up works fine for a minute or two, but then the nuts seem to tighten up and the prop won't spin very fast which gives me little power. I have varies washers, nuts and little white round plastic bits. It is driving me nuts !

Any help appreciated

Bozman

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