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Official F27 Stryker Part 8: Beginners to Custom Darkness

Old 06-21-2009, 01:10 AM
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nova,

for the doppler software to work you need to do your passes a bit lower so the sound waves are stronger.
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This is my custom Stryker that I built a couple of years ago.

P. Richards aka SwatTeam

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Moparmyway,

I'm VERY sure, 90+% that your new packs are for cars.

They are in the TPExcel spreadsheet that Igot back in November under Surface series batteries and accessories.

So look to see if they have a hard casing of some sort.

Don't listen to me, Ihave one eye closed....bed time....lots to read and catch up on for tomorrow. Ihave family in town for another 36 hours.


***Idid an edit of my motor post on last page. Added (2)more pics and 2 lines near bottom.


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Hi Moparmyway :=}
Welcome as our newest elder and I think you will do a very good job .
I also want to thank chippedprop for all of his time and knowledge he has shared with everyone.
I have just got done building a new stryker and thanks to Gryphon for all his helpand suggestions on a motor and prop to provide enough power to get my new one into the air and still get me up around 85 to 90 mph.
My plane is covered with duct tape and has 4mm carbon tubes, it's RTF weight is 44 oz's.
I'm using a ARC 28/47/2 the kv is around 2200 rpm and I'm using 4000mah 15c 3 cell lipo's and it is turning 16,800 rpm using a APC 7x5-E at 52 amps and using 580 watts at 11.5 volts static.
It drops to 48 amps with in 5 seconds so I hoping it will drop to around 45 in the air.
joe1,
That plane looks heavy duty !!!!!!
That prop will probably unload down to under 40 amps in air at full speed in level flight.
For more speed, I am sure Gryphon will have some more props for you to choose from !!
WELCOMEto The Darkside ..........you will be slipping and sliding down the highway to more Darker and Faster Stryker flights real soon !!!!!


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I hope I am wrong, but it looks like you have stock clevises and pushrods on there. With all of that weight you carry from tape, please make sure to use 2-56 rods and the better better hardware associated with it.
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Thank you guys for all the info, really beats going out and crashing a plane to see what you need to beef up.
speaking of crashing, here is a little video for your intertainment

vimeo.com/5227610

just fast forward from the 2:10 to about 4:00 while I do the walk of shame to retrive my stryker lawn dart.

BTW could someone get a audio reading off this and tell me how I was going just BEFORE the crash.
I just cant seem to get a program to do doppler that is user friendly.

I bow down to the big thumbs of the darker side.

just glad to be here
Thanks for the video !!!!
Best resolution pass that I could get was this..........(really need a better pass (lower) and I guessed at the temperature)
Sorry about that crash.........looks like the tear in the foam by the left wing servo spells an untimely death. Also looks like the fuse got some bannannas for breakfast as well, and once the fuse is bannanna'd its all over. Sorry again !!!!
Look on the bright side.....................if she is toast, you can build another faster one !!!!!!
Let us know if you are able to repair her !!!!!!
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Old 06-21-2009, 04:56 AM
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ORIGINAL: P. Richards

This is my custom Stryker that I built a couple of years ago.

P. Richards aka SwatTeam

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NICEdetails !!!!!!
Including the way you have turned those elevons into bat wings !!!!

***EDIT***
Are those verticals made of wood ???
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Moparmyway,

I'm VERY sure, 90+% that your new packs are for cars.


***Idid an edit of my motor post on last page. Added (2)more pics and 2 lines near bottom.


Gryphon
YES.............they are for cars.......................BUT
I will try to fit them into a Stryker sooner or later !!!!
I know a single 3s will fit, so I will work on getting the 2 of them in there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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To all you DAD Dudes out there............HAPPYFATHERSDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I truely hope everyone who is a Dad gets something to benefit them in this R/C field. From the wishers who are dreaming of breaking any World Records........................all the way down to piddley old me (wishing for AMA Membership...................hint........hint).

Seriousely, if its just a new servo arm screw thats been missing since you saw it flying over there........somewhere
or
A BRANDNEWSTRYKER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope something comes to each and every one of us Fathers out here that we will use for our play, joy, or addiction of STRYKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

again

HAPPYDADSDAY............Stryker DUDES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ORIGINAL: joe1

Hi Moparmyway :=}
Welcome as our newest elder and I think you will do a very good job .
I also want to thank chippedprop for all of his time and knowledge he has shared with everyone.
I have just got done building a new stryker and thanks to Gryphon for all his helpand suggestions on a motor and prop to provide enough power to get my new one into the air and still get me up around 85 to 90 mph.
My plane is covered with duct tape and has 4mm carbon tubes, it's RTF weight is 44 oz's.
I'm using a ARC 28/47/2 the kv is around 2200 rpm and I'm using 4000mah 15c 3 cell lipo's and it is turning 16,800 rpm using a APC 7x5-E at 52 amps and using 580 watts at 11.5 volts static.
It drops to 48 amps with in 5 seconds so I hoping it will drop to around 45 in the air.
joe1,
That plane looks heavy duty !!!!!!
That prop will probably unload down to under 40 amps in air at full speed in level flight.
For more speed, I am sure Gryphon will have some more props for you to choose from !!
WELCOMEto The Darkside ..........you will be slipping and sliding down the highway to more Darker and Faster Stryker flights real soon !!!!!


***EDIT***
I hope I am wrong, but it looks like you have stock clevises and pushrods on there. With all of that weight you carry from tape, please make sure to use 2-56 rods and the better better hardware associated with it.
Thanks moparmyway :=}
Yes it is heavy duty in the one picture you can see my retired one it has survived many of crashs along with a few straight in's at 40 to 50 mph and the worst thing that happen to itwas it's nose got a chunk token out, put a little hot glue and it was fixed , and it is five yrs old if I remember right.
The aileron control arms are stock but they were used on my old stryker with no problem, but the push rods are 2-56 and with steel clevises that are threaded and I have the 81 metal gear servo's but I don't like them as while as the 82's, if you get the servo arm screw just a little snug they will shatter as if they are stalled and might be, maybe screws are to long??
joe1
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Happy fathers day to you all!

Mopar,

I am willing to offer up some new never before on the market motors for the traveling motor  program

I'll ship them out to you Monday, please bench test every motor and you let me know which you are interested in.

PS don't worry about price till you get your results

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Old 06-21-2009, 12:09 PM
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ORIGINAL: gotboostedvr6

Happy fathers day to you all!

Mopar,

I am willing to offer up some new never before on the market motors for the traveling motor program

I'll ship them out to you Monday, please bench test every motor and you let me know which you are interested in.

PS don't worry about price till you get your results

-Dave
http://www.Fastflyingwings.com
WOAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AREYOUSERIOUS?????????????

OK, my mailing address is the last one I sent to you

THANKYOUvery much, on behalf of all of us Stryker Dudes, and especially from me.

I will use those motors for the program and let everyone see what you have to offer.

__________________________________________________ _____________________

Everyone,
Gotboosted (Dave) owns Fast Flying Wings based in NJ and offers affordable motors and electronics for Strykers, as well as other flying things.

His motors are efficient, cost effective alternatives to the more pricey name brand heavy hitters like MEGA, NEU, and Medusa.
Dont get me wrong here, dudes probably wont be breaking any sound barriers, but if you are looking for a relatively inexpensive upgrade that will be reliable and not break your wallett, and give you many many reliable fun filled flights with improoved performance, thencheck out his website and try his motors through the new "Traveling Motor" program, then decide which one to buy !!!

Details coming soon for what motors are in the program !!!!
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ORIGINAL: joe1


Thanks moparmyway :=}
Yes it is heavy duty in the one picture you can see my retired one it has survived many of crashs along with a few straight in's at 40 to 50 mph and the worst thing that happen to itwas it's nose got a chunk token out, put a little hot glue and it was fixed , and it is five yrs old if I remember right.
The aileron control arms are stock but they were used on my old stryker with no problem, but the push rods are 2-56 and with steel clevises that are threaded and I have the 81 metal gear servo's but I don't like them as while as the 82's, if you get the servo arm screw just a little snug they will shatter as if they are stalled and might be, maybe screws are to long??
joe1
Maybe you could put a small washer under the servo arm before you screw it down, just to give a little distance from the shoulder of the arm hitting the servo housing ???

82's are MUCH better than 81's , you are correct there !!!

We will all sleep MUCH better tonight knowing your pushrods and hardware will last through whatever commands you give them !!!!
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Question for you guys that are running spektrum radios. What receive are you using?
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Dreadan ,

Hi there. Do me a favor and stay away from AR6100 and AR6300 receivers.

We run AR6200 and AR7000 receivers.


****AR500 looks promising, and Ilook forward to trying it soon.

AR500, AR6200, and AR7000 are the only 3 Full range receivers.


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Moparmyway:
I just snug them light and being they fit so tight into there foam slots I don't think they will back out and I did use little washer's and a drop of the blue thread lock.
I just mention it to refer to them as not being as good as the 82's.

Thank You
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ORIGINAL: Gryphon
Last year Ihad an idea to make a custom motor that Ithought would be one of the most ideal setups.

The finished motor is a MEGA16/35/1.5 2700KV (measured on 3S) and 2800KVmeasured on 5S.
16/35/1.5 C is a 5mm combat shaft, Imade sure that its wires come out of bottom side when bolted in F-27C motor mount. Iasked for slightly more expensive bearings.

6 Poles.
Resistance was measured to 0.0128 Ohms (2) phase by Moparmyway. Use that for NEU/Castle creations simulators.
Resistance of 0.0064 Ohms for single phase simulators like MOTOCALC.

56.5mm length
155 grams
Options of 3.2mm or 5mm shaft. We bought 5mm shafts.

All (3) of us are very happy with the results.

4S: 2780 KV
Pic below shows the new motor next to 16/25/2 2650KV.
Gryphon,
This thing just lookswicked!!!!

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I just got back from the flying field, and its all good.
The plane I crashed last thrusday, I repaired today and flew this afternoon. I love foam.
Went through 3 batterys and brought it home in 1 piece.
Even made some 3/4 throttle passes at about 5' off the deck.
Something I think is odd, the high pitch sound of the motor on my easystar and other big wing glider type planes, is very annoying to me, buy on the stryker it sounds cool when you come flying by low and fast, well fast for me aint all that fast.I
I'm back in the saddle again and riding hard.

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nova50073 ,





I look forward to meeting you in person at some point over the next 10 days before I go on a trip.





Remind me about the extra Co-pilot when we talk again.







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"We will have the "Traveling Motor" idea in full swing very soon."



should we call this the brotherhood of the traveling motors (G)?



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VFA-13 SCREAMER ,

Moparmyway gets all the credit for that...he is the guy who paid for the motors and makes the decisions on them.

He is doing a good thing for nice people.


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I agree, I would be glad to add a volt meter/current meter to the traveling motor if it goes to someone that does not have a curent meter...
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Im up for the traveling motor program as well. So far I added the cf to the fuse as per the directions,3M extreme tape to wing tips as well as the rear edge of the wing. I like the hot glue much better than the gorilla glue. Its quicker and less mess thanks Mopar. Heres my parts list. I hope to paint tomorrow and be ready for flight by sat. I like the idea of this post since I dont like putting alot of time and money into a plane I can wreck in the blink of an eye. Ive become tired of the edf jets that dont perform well at all. Ive wasted way too much on them. The repair cost is too high as well.
E-Flite 60ESC
6.5x5 prop
(2) MG65 servos
4S 2650 30C Lipo
Spektrum 6200
Medusa heatsink


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Looks good so far!
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bhoges17,

I know you will be well taken care of.

That C.F. pattern will do fine for now.

All I can say is that in future, you will either glass this puppy or build another one if you are going to be flying with Mopar.

bhoges17, I don’t need to do tarot card reading to know you will have 130-140+MPH Stryker passes in your "not too distant" future.
How do I know? You live too close to Moparmyway to have other options…..ROFL.


Welcome to the dark side. [8D]


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ORIGINAL: VFA-13 SCREAMER

I agree, I would be glad to add a volt meter/current meter to the traveling motor if it goes to someone that does not have a curent meter...
OK, DONE !!!!

We now have a wattmeter for the motor program thanks to VFA-13 SCREAMER.....................(Thanks Philip !!!!)

Please take a picture of it, after it is posted, I will give you an address the meter can be mailed to, and then we will have it for anyone to use with their setup if they need it !!!!

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Gryphon,
I do NOT deserve the credit for the idea for the "Traveling Motor".................
Someone else had that idea !!!!

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Bhoges17,
Nice build !!!!
I like your cost efficient ideas.
Interested in the motor program...............OK, you got it !!!!
I see youre planning on an E-Flite 60 amp ESC, we will have many different KV motors for you to choose from
(thanks to Gotboosted from Fast Flying Wings) http://www.fastflyingwings.com/#
that will match up very well for you with that 4s battery you are going to run. Your Medusa heatsink will serve you well, like Gryphon is hinting at, you will need it !!!!!!!

The hot glue works awsome, especially for holding in servos. Makes servo removal easier also, so you wont run into this when you need to swap one out. This one was held in by Gorilla Glue, and only needed a gear swap............................now it needs a recycling bin !!!
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