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Old 05-16-2003, 07:24 PM
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Old 05-16-2003, 07:48 PM
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Very cool... What is a mpx 11 mm motor?
Old 05-16-2003, 09:09 PM
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mpx 11mm is micro servo which i use throtle. full name is multiplex pico11 bb
Old 05-17-2003, 01:44 AM
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What motor do you have on it?
Old 05-17-2003, 02:28 AM
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He mentioned he had an Enya 30SS on it earlier. Great engines those Enya SS series..very good power and light for their size.
Old 05-17-2003, 06:57 AM
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Must have said that on a different post 'cause i was curios which engine also. Thanks
Old 05-18-2003, 05:04 AM
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I was just looking over the plans for the Taco, and noticed that there is no side view of any of the control surfaces. Are they all just 1/4" thick & flat, or are any of them tapered? Looking at the photos, I'd guess that the tail group is all flat. But I can't really tell looking at the ailerons. Are they flat, too?

Also, are the majority of people going with pull/pull for the elevator & rudder, or do push-rods work just as good?

I hope somebody can help me out, because I'd really like to try one of these planes out.

Thank You,

Mark
Old 05-18-2003, 05:58 AM
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The tail surfaces and ailerons are all 1/4" flat. I like the control rods 'cause they're easier to set up.... But the pull-pull is great too.
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Thanks for the reply Paul!

I prefer push-rods, too. Not because they are better, but because they are easier to install.

I was also happy to hear that all the control surfaces were flat! Also, not because it is better...but a whole lot easier to make!

Thanks for the help & the great design!

Mark
Old 05-18-2003, 06:31 AM
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I used to do pull pull on everything... but it's kind of a pain to always have to adjust it... and a pain to set up... The rods work fine.... You can use rod guides made from little pieces of 1/16" ply, or use landing gear straps with pieces of antena tubing for guilds.

The Fat Free Taco has tapered ailerons. The le is 3/8 and the te is 3/16. It's built with precut aileron ribs, so it's not hard to build. I like this design better, but the 1/4" flat ones work fine too.
Old 05-19-2003, 11:59 PM
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sorry but this looks just like the morris pen knife, I just bought one and built it , they are twins for sure, hope yours is thr real deal, I have notified morris hobbies about this, I,m sure they will contact you.. Ray
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Huh?
Old 05-20-2003, 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by homeputer
sorry but this looks just like the morris pen knife, I just bought one and built it , they are twins for sure, hope yours is thr real deal, I have notified morris hobbies about this, I,m sure they will contact you.. Ray
Time for that eye exam...it ain't a Pen Knife. I'll bet Robert would love to get the call, he saw at least 2 of them in person at Houston and sure didn't seem to have any issues with Paul's design then. I'll bet Paul asked Robert about it before he ever kitted a single one.
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I'm guessing that any small profile plane that you put in front of homeputer would look the same!

...I did notice a similarity between homeputer and an idiot though. Should we notify somebody about this?
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Originally posted by deryckere
I'm guessing that any small profile plane that you put in front of homeputer would look the same!

...I did notice a similarity between homeputer and an idiot though. Should we notify somebody about this?
Oh, I wouldn't go that far..The Knife (Pen Knife) has a fairly distinctive outline. Not sure how you could mistake a Taco for one.

But "calling Morris"?? Oh please. Just about all the profiles are so close in design it would be a nightmare putting a patent on every single design aspect of a plane. The FF Taco shares a lot of design considerations of a Mark Shope Menace..better call Shope. Oh wait..he cuts the FF Taco kits, nevermind.

I bet if we had access to all the photos from Houston you could see a pic of Robert WITH a Taco. It's sure not gonna be any great earth-shattering news to him. That was the point I felt was ironic.
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Robert let me fly his Pen Knife... I really liked it. But it flys very differently than a Taco. The Taco is radically different than the Pen Knife. The wing is tripple tapered, the control surfaces are much larger, the rudder is shapped differently, the horizontal stab is inline with the thrust line.

The Fat Free Taco is constructed radically different that any of the Morris planes. Like Chuck said, built simular to a Menace with a boom fuse.

If anything, the Taco looks more like a SuDoKhoi that a knife. I asked Robert about a Knife redesign I was working on... He said I could screw up the knife anyway I liked!!

Remember... This is just a hobby... We're all doing this just for fun.
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Here is a picture of the Pen Knife...Just in case you stumbled in here, and never seen one before.

Looks allot like the Taco...NOT!

Maybe he just ate a bad Taco before comparing the 2 planes, and was seeing things a little fuzzy...Because if you close one eye, and squint real hard with the other one...you can almost make something that resembles the Knife.

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Old 05-21-2003, 01:00 AM
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Hey guys.....I am new at this fun fly...3-D thing. I am getting more comfortable hanging on a prop.....I can even do that on my Lazy Bee. But my question is this: I down loaded the Taco II and plotted out the plans at work. Very nice drawing by the way, I need to know if an OS 40 FS would work on this plane. Is it too heavy? I see you guys are using Irvine 25s and that is something I do not have. My 40 four banger is barely broken in and I would like to use it......what do you think?


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To get the CG right, I've found that 13 oz is the upper limit for engine weight... I'm not sure what the 40 fs weights.. You'd be better off with a .25 size BB motor. The OS .25 FX is a great motor, you could also run a Magnum .25 or a TT .25 or anything in this category.

I havn't tried it yet, but I think it would be fun to try a Norvel .25. I think that little guy is around 9 oz.
Old 05-21-2003, 12:49 PM
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Thanks Paul....I will look into a new 25. With the Irvine, is it hard to find parts for this motor? What do think is the best bang for the buck as far as 25 engines go? I have a 25 LA that is on my Lazy Bee, I don't think that would do the trick any way. So please let me know what you think of the 25 engines what would be the best deal compared to performance.


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I havn't had any trouble getting parts for my Irvines. I get them from Just Engines. Excelent bargin from them.

The OS 25 FX is a great deal at $72... The 25 LA would probably work, but I don't thing you could hover it.
Old 05-21-2003, 09:28 PM
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Yes the .25la should hover a 2.5 lb taco. I have a bushing magum .25 and it hoverd my 3 lbs profile. And the motor is brand new. I dont think it will have the punch of the fx but it should do just fine.
Old 05-24-2003, 01:01 AM
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Yeah! I've got the plans printed!
I've also started building

One question though as this is my first profile and I'm planning to use push-rods; how do you organize these? On the inside or outside? Belive I've seen both solutions in use...

If you do run them on the inside, can anyone post a pic like the one I've posted, but without the sheeting?

Can't wait to fly this baby!
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Old 05-24-2003, 01:23 AM
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Hi Paul

I put the Saito 30 on a scale and it comes up at 9.5 oz complete with muffler. Turns a 10 X 6 prop close to 10K RPM.

I will let you know how it turns out.

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I just ordered two Magnum .25 motors with ball bearings. I think that will do fine. One of them will be going on my Lazy Bee and the other on my TacoII. I have two projects in the works, when they are done, I will start my Taco. Looking forward to building this plane. Thanks for all of great info guys!!!!


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