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Old 12-23-2002, 04:03 AM
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Default Flew My Flip3d Today!!!!

this is gonna be one fun plane. I never even looked at the manual to balance it. We did check the CG and it seemed tail heavy, but not bad. Took off only needed a click or 2 of aileron trim. I bumped the rudder on downwind and MANNNN!!! did I get a JOLT!!. I got another surprisw a few minutes later when the rudder quit working. I landed and found the servo extension worked its way away from the servo lead. Pulled the servo and hoked up again this time with a zip tie to hold it together.
I didnt get it to flat spin, but I think Paul Swany might have. He also took some pics of it hovering. This plane you can start out at 20' and just back it down. I'm useing an Irvine 53 and APC12.25x3.75 prop. Got 9202 all around(less throttle). I have the battery ontop of the tank. I also used 4-40 rods on the controls. If your looking for some fun, check out the LHS and get one of these Flips...Paul, post some pics for me...Gator
Old 12-23-2002, 04:22 AM
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Default Flip

I got a few more flights on mine today.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...08&forumid=230]
Old 12-23-2002, 04:23 AM
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Default Flew My Flip3d Today!!!!

Cool....

Yeah we want pics!
Old 12-23-2002, 04:47 AM
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What does your 330 weigh. I flew a friends 330 last week. His weighed 6 pounds. He has a GMS 61 2 cycle on it. I didn't think the plane would fly that great at that weight but it would do Harrier landings. He was using the APC 12.25 -3.75 prop. The GMS engine really suprised me. It comes with a muffler that looks like a Tower Hobbies 46 ABC muffler. Throttle responce was unreal from idle to top end and the midrange was as good as my engines with a Mouse Can Muffler. I bought a Magic Extra yesterday. I thought that the wing was like on the Magic but it is a symmetrical airfoil. I plan on running a Thunder Tiger 46 Pro with a Tower Hobbies 46 muffler and a 12.25 - 3.75 APC prop. I plan on running stock Futaba ball bearing servos and a 6 volt nickel hydride AAA battery pack 720 ma. to speed up the servos.
Old 12-23-2002, 04:49 AM
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I thought the thread was for the GOLDBERG 330 Extreme. Sorry about that.
Old 12-23-2002, 04:57 AM
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Default Flew My Flip3d Today!!!!

thats OK BBJoe
I have a 330 3D also and it weighs 5lbs with an Irvine 46...very good profile...I didnt like it that much at 1st but it kinda grew on me.
My flip weighs 5lb 7oz. I almost cant wait to fly it again. I think YNOT has a thread going on the FLIP in the aerobatics 3D page, very positive feedback on the Flip....Gator
Old 12-23-2002, 07:02 AM
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Default Flips R Kool

I agree with ya Gator! I flew mine yesterday maiden flight I walked it around a foot off the ground in a hover like a dog on a chain And today flew it in about 30mph wind , Man they fly and land backwards good. This one weighs 5lbs 4oun. and the 46FX gets it done. The pict. to the left was taken on the maiden I guess we'll trim it out another day..... BENDER
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Default rudder servo

I read ynot's flight report and it sounds like you need a stronger servo for the rudder. I have used 9402 Futaba servos and it is a great servo but it costs about $100. Hitec HS 5625mg is a digital, metal gear servo that has 109 oz. of torque and a speed of .17
and weight 2.11 oz. It is a digital servo but it is not coreless. It sells for $55. at servo city. I have one of these servos and it is at least as good as the 9402 Futaba servo. Also if you get one of these servos the direction is opposite of Futaba so check the direction of travel before you fly with it.
Old 12-23-2002, 04:49 PM
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Default Flew My Flip3d Today!!!!

Gator,

I noticed you stated the you used 4-40 rods for the controls. Did include the ailerons?

Thanks

Ken
Old 12-23-2002, 04:54 PM
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Default Flew My Flip3d Today!!!!

I will put a JR 2721 on the rudder of my Flipster. Elevator will be a JR 4721, Ailerons are Hitec 625MG's (will give the Hitecs one last chance but just because I have them laying around), and a JR Micro 331 on throttle. JR 649 S-PCM receiver and JR Extra 1100 6V Battery. Power will be my loved and great running OS 50SX.
I am also using Central Hobbies CF rods with 4-40 linkage all around. Clevises only on the ailerons control horn and ball linkage (Nelson Hobbies) on both sides (horn & servo arm) on the elevator and rudder and servo arm on ailerons.
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yes ailerons too. I also used some of the futaba 1/4 scale servo arms. here is a shot of the ele servo. I may have to cut the rudder off and rehinge. I didnt space the hinge line out good on the rudder and I feel like its keeping me from getting the full deflection. If I had a JET50, this would really be KILLER...Gator
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Old 12-23-2002, 05:12 PM
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Default Flew My Flip3d Today!!!!

I got a buncha pic's on my camara.... Soon as I get off work today.. I'll post 'em!! This thing was a hoot to fly!!! Really responsive.... I got one upright spin out of it... but it was low on fuel, so I had to land it... Landed like a ***** cat... Gator's egging my on to get one now..... Damn...
Old 12-23-2002, 06:34 PM
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Default Flew My Flip3d Today!!!!

I would like to see this bird fly. I have the UCD. Once I get my ST90 moosecan figured out for it. It going to be a blast to fly.

As for the flip, I have a YS63 that needs a new home once my motor gets back from the shop.
Old 12-24-2002, 12:01 AM
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Gator you want to try an JET 50 in it?? It maybe to much. <Grin>
Old 12-24-2002, 12:39 AM
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Default Flew My Flip3d Today!!!!

MVVS .49 or MVVS.77. I've got 'em both but don't know which to use in the flip. Any suggestions?
Old 12-24-2002, 01:11 AM
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Default Pics

Here's the best one out of the bunch...
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Old 12-24-2002, 01:14 AM
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here's another one.
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Old 12-24-2002, 01:35 AM
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Paul,
There were some pretty strange looking contrails in your photos.
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Old 12-24-2002, 01:57 AM
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Default Flew My Flip3d Today!!!!

LOL
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Hey Dave
thats pretty good<GRIN>. I even made a comment yesterday about all the contrails in the sky. And when I 1st saw this pic , they really grab'd my eye....but I didn't see the FLIP TAC TOE board in the sky......Great job.....Gator
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Default Sounds like this plane....

screams Saito 72 or YS 63.....

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Old 12-24-2002, 04:21 AM
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or an O.S. 70 also might be a engine for this plane...but I'm afraid of 4C's<GRIN>....Gator
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MVVS .77
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Webra50 and K&B screamin 48. One thing you have to consider with this plane with the 2 stoke engine is will the muffler fit without hiting the wing.Most stock muffs will do, but the Ultra thrust and tower muffs will hit the wing without some modifications ....G
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[ I started out my test with a FX46 w. ultrathrust and it was cool, Theh we tryed my jett 60 BSE and it was cool Then we installed a SAITO 72 it also worked good, So any of these combos are good. However (BEWARE) it aint easy to arrive at a user freindly location for the motor due to muffler exit complications!!! Only 1 location for the 46 ultra thurst " slightly counter clockwise from inverted" And that one pretty much sucks! The SAITO72 is the easiest (inverted) I'm using the MACS extra long header with a ES composites Quiet pipe. And the 46 is 90 deg, So the exaust is facing down and attach the to the bottom of the wing fillet (rubber pipe mount) Also note if you need a new cowl they cost 45.00 WOW... As far as servos I used Hitec hs 545 all around except for throd. Its a JR 351. They are ok for slow 3D but blow back for the Insanity moves with speed. I have had no problem with rudder flutter however others at my feild have. I'm using ALUM. post horns from KANGE and 1 1/4 long Alum servoarms with ball links and 440 throughout!... BENDER

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