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Jonathan Ott 02-03-2002 03:24 AM

Magic owners...
 
Any of you that have bought, built (I know, ASSEMBLED ) and flown a ModelTech Magic, and did not use the graphics...I know there are a couple of you out there...and are willing to sell the graphic sheets, I'd like to offer a few bucks for them. I'm going to buy my own Magic soon, but I want a few sets of extra graphics for another project.

If any of you would be willing to sell your graphics, drop me a line on how much you want for them shipped to me.

Thanks,

Jon

wingspan99 02-03-2002 01:04 PM

Graphics
 
Stevezero bought one of these and is not using the graphics. Send him an email at [email protected].
-Tom

Cactus. 02-03-2002 01:58 PM

Magic owners...
 
Beef up your rudder post when you build it, they have a habbit of breaking

wingspan99 02-04-2002 02:58 AM

Rudder
 
Steve added flying wires to the vertical fin. He used .020 music wire, formed into an O at each end with a 4-40 bolt holding them in the stab and fin. Seems very sturdy.

4 stroken ron 02-04-2002 05:49 AM

Magic owners...
 
Does any one know where I can get a new MAGIC these days?
STILL LOOKING
Ron

Cactus. 02-04-2002 11:36 AM

Magic owners...
 
YT international do them in ARTF form, i wasnt aware there was other ways to get them.

NavyFlyer 02-04-2002 09:16 PM

Hmm..
 
I called a few places today looking for a magic.. no luck.. :(

PaulSwany 02-04-2002 09:47 PM

Magic owners...
 
Hobby People is a dealer for ModelTech... They list the Magic on their web site, but are out of stock...

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/123740.htm

stevezero 02-04-2002 10:00 PM

Magic Decals
 
I have a set of magic decals, total sheet. Email me off list, and we can work something out. I will also post pics of my completed magic, along with closeups of the flying wires. It comes in at 3lbs 13 oz, with NO lead on it whatsoever. :)

Standard servos, 1 mini on the throttle,
TT 36 Pro Heli motor
APC 11/3 prop
4 oz Tank (smaller than the 6 oz in the arf)
1600 NiMh battery under the radio tray.

Initial flights prove very promising, this thing looks like a blast. Wingspan almost torque rolled in on its maiden flight.

Steve

stevezero 02-05-2002 07:50 PM

completed magic :)
 
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Holy Cow I Love this plane!!!!!!

Still breaking in the motor, but wow, unlimited vertical at 3/8s throttle on a TT pro 36 heli motor w/ APC 11/3 prop, 15% red-max fuel.

Mods to the magic so far:

Stronger spar joiner on the wing

wing bolt 1/4-20 nylon

dubro hardware on the pull-pulls (the keepers on the wires were too large, and would fall off.

micro servo mounted on right side of fuse.

1600 nimh battery mounted under radio tray where throttle servo would normally be.

.024 flying wires on the tail, to strengthen it (play a neat guitar tune on them when on the ground.

4 oz. tank instead of 6oz, mounted rear and to the left (next to throttle servo.

triangle stock on firewall and rear gear mount to brace it.

monokoted the firewall (more of a cosmetic thing, but it does keep the fuel from seeping in)

larger foamies (needed the extra goung clearance :D )

all the rest of the radio gear is standard, including a futaba 127 df receiver
Using flaperons, air brakes, and about 45-50 degrees of throw (will do a respectable waterfall even with the cg forward)

All up dry weight of 3 lbs 13 oz. w/no lead in the tail to balance (although I might add 1/2 oz back there to move the cg back a lil more)

Still trimming and tuning it, but it is an absolute blast to fly. Have no fear of taking off straight into a low speed hover at 25 ft ( 2nd day of flying the plane). Even with the risk of deadsticking (had 4 flameouts today playing with the high n low needle valves), it just floats in pretty as pie. Total change of pace from my model tech extra that would tumble like mad, but would land faster than a brick falling from the sky.


I would highly recommend this plane to anyone looking to have alot of fun, little cost, and high return. Will float like a trainer, or will scare your underwear right on up there (the real P-factor :D )


Steve

stevezero 02-05-2002 07:56 PM

one more to wet your appetite
 
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Here's one where you can see the tail wires. I will add washers to both sides of the wires to protect the surfaces.

funfly2005 02-07-2002 10:12 PM

Magic owners...
 
How does the Magic Hover

stevezero 02-07-2002 11:54 PM

magic hovering
 
So far soooooo goood. I've only been out with it three times so far, and have never been able to hover before, but I am able to hold it for quite a while. I think even with the cg forward, it loves to stand on its tail. Although that could be the heli motor just trying to keep itself in its proper attitude :D

I am even doing it low n slow, on take off, less than 30 feet off the deck, which is blowing me away so far. You definately do NOT need a 46 or 61 for it. Mine hovers at less than half throttle with a TT 36. Don't follow the instruction manual when building the plane, the battery shouldnt be up front. I stashed mine under the servo tray, where the throttle servo would be. I have a mini servo mounted on the right side of the fuse, and a smaller 4 oz tank on the left. I can get 12-15 min flights out of a single tank, and even if it goes deadstick, it floats like a sailplane. It's wing loading is actually less than some sailplanes. I would definately recommend this plane to anyone.

Steve

Theres another pic of the magic in the funfly pics section as well.

funfly2005 02-11-2002 01:11 AM

Magic owners...
 
What did you use to reinforce the wing?

stevezero 02-11-2002 03:35 PM

wing reinforcement
 
I cut a piece of pressure treated lattice left over from my neighbors' shed project. Sanded it to a very tight fit. That replaced the weak spar joiner. Epoxied that to the wing, and used med CA to seal the rest of the wing joint, and wicked a lil thin CA around the edges to penetrate. I put in a piece of light ply to span the inside of the fuse(epoxied), drilled and tapped that for a 1/4-20 nylon bolt to hold the wing down. Wick thin CA into the threads to stiffen. It makes for a really strong joint, yet will allow the wing to break off on a hard impact (hopefully wont have to test that theory).

The tail really needs to be reinforced. I used .024 music wire with 4/40 screws thru the rudder and tail, and screwed to the pair of landing gear wood screws. That makes the tail at least 3 times stronger, eliminating the flex due to deflection or air pressure.


Remember, this is a slow speed high alpha airplane, its not supposed to be a speed demon. The surfaces are huge, and at high speeds, even sealed surfaces will flutter. Hoping to have some vid captures we took Friday at lunch soon.

Steve


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