Exhaust into retracts
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Exhaust into retracts
Is it a problem for those who have an exhaust that is landing on the bottom of the wing and have retracts?
I stopped planning on a side mounted engine when I realized were the exhaust would be going on my first plane with retracts. A fuel soaked wing is what I imagined.
I stopped planning on a side mounted engine when I realized were the exhaust would be going on my first plane with retracts. A fuel soaked wing is what I imagined.
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I've had oil get up into the retract wells on a few planes. As long as there is no bare wood for it to soak into or openings where it can get into the wing structure you should be fine. It may not be too good on foam tires either. If anything, it is just annoying to have to clean out the wheel wells and the gear.
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Everything in the wheel wells gets sealed and fuel proofed but I have had a binding problem with mechanicals due to first oil then dirt getting between moving parts. My Spring Airs don't seem to have any problems but they aren't in a direct line with the engine snot.
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I used what the locals call a muse muffler to extend the exhaust on my side mounted Saito .82 mounted in a scratch built profile Mustang with retracts. Getting the exhaust behind the opening is the answer.
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RE: Exhaust into retracts
ORIGINAL: ChuckW
I've had oil get up into the retract wells on a few planes. As long as there is no bare wood for it to soak into or openings where it can get into the wing structure you should be fine. It may not be too good on foam tires either. If anything, it is just annoying to have to clean out the wheel wells and the gear.
I've had oil get up into the retract wells on a few planes. As long as there is no bare wood for it to soak into or openings where it can get into the wing structure you should be fine. It may not be too good on foam tires either. If anything, it is just annoying to have to clean out the wheel wells and the gear.
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ORIGINAL: bps
I used what the locals call a muse muffler to extend the exhaust on my side mounted Saito .82 mounted in a scratch built profile Mustang with retracts. Getting the exhaust behind the opening is the answer.
I used what the locals call a muse muffler to extend the exhaust on my side mounted Saito .82 mounted in a scratch built profile Mustang with retracts. Getting the exhaust behind the opening is the answer.
I'm going to keep mosse can construction in mind as a future project because I can see the situation coming up again on another plane I want to build.
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Guess my P47, Corsair, and F6F's with their side mounted engines didn't know their wheel wells shouldn't be dry as bones, but they are.
Route your exhaust straight down. That's very easy to do thanks to 2 sources of Pitts mufflers. And then add short extensions to the pipes if needed. The exhaust is then blown directly down, between the wheel wells. As the pictures show, the extensions aren't exactly obvious. MOF, I've not bothered to even try shortening them to see if they could be. As it is, neither the Corsair or Hellcat get oil further forward than under the tails. After a day of flying, the paper towel comes away with some but not much. I've put them into the car trunk without wiping (old age gets you one way or the other) and had no drips. There isn't enough to cause drips.
The P47 actually has a stock muffler on it. I took the time to build a tunnel into the fuselage/wing for it. I don't go to that effort now.
I'm just about to re-muffle my Spitfire to route the exhaust out the bottom. It's got an inverted engine with side exhaust. At the time that seemed the only mounting that'd keep the engine from showing, and the muffler out the side was preferable to the engine head and pitts pipes. There is now an "inverted wrap around" available. So I got a new cowling and am about to retrofit. I know that the exhaust location with that muffler, directly out the bottom, will be both clean and not very noticable.
Route your exhaust straight down. That's very easy to do thanks to 2 sources of Pitts mufflers. And then add short extensions to the pipes if needed. The exhaust is then blown directly down, between the wheel wells. As the pictures show, the extensions aren't exactly obvious. MOF, I've not bothered to even try shortening them to see if they could be. As it is, neither the Corsair or Hellcat get oil further forward than under the tails. After a day of flying, the paper towel comes away with some but not much. I've put them into the car trunk without wiping (old age gets you one way or the other) and had no drips. There isn't enough to cause drips.
The P47 actually has a stock muffler on it. I took the time to build a tunnel into the fuselage/wing for it. I don't go to that effort now.
I'm just about to re-muffle my Spitfire to route the exhaust out the bottom. It's got an inverted engine with side exhaust. At the time that seemed the only mounting that'd keep the engine from showing, and the muffler out the side was preferable to the engine head and pitts pipes. There is now an "inverted wrap around" available. So I got a new cowling and am about to retrofit. I know that the exhaust location with that muffler, directly out the bottom, will be both clean and not very noticable.
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ORIGINAL: flythesky
I did consider a pipe, and a musse can would have been a cheaper alternative, but I've never used either in the past. I finally raised the fuel tank since the side mounting was to get the needle valve in a better relationship with the tank in the first place.
I'm going to keep mosse can construction in mind as a future project because I can see the situation coming up again on another plane I want to build.
ORIGINAL: bps
I used what the locals call a muse muffler to extend the exhaust on my side mounted Saito .82 mounted in a scratch built profile Mustang with retracts. Getting the exhaust behind the opening is the answer.
I used what the locals call a muse muffler to extend the exhaust on my side mounted Saito .82 mounted in a scratch built profile Mustang with retracts. Getting the exhaust behind the opening is the answer.
I'm going to keep mosse can construction in mind as a future project because I can see the situation coming up again on another plane I want to build.
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RE: Exhaust into retracts
da Rock
I didn't mention that my plane is a twin so the exhaust is in line with the retracts. I will keep in mind that a Pitts style muffler will cut down on the exhaust on the plane. Thanks.
ChuckW
I could build a box around the retract assembly when assembling the wing but it is a little after the fact now. I thought it was a little too much trouble to do after building the wing. Thanks.
I didn't mention that my plane is a twin so the exhaust is in line with the retracts. I will keep in mind that a Pitts style muffler will cut down on the exhaust on the plane. Thanks.
ChuckW
I could build a box around the retract assembly when assembling the wing but it is a little after the fact now. I thought it was a little too much trouble to do after building the wing. Thanks.
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da Rock
I didn't mention that my plane is a twin so the exhaust is in line with the retracts. I will keep in mind that a Pitts style muffler will cut down on the exhaust on the plane. Thanks.
ChuckW
I could build a box around the retract assembly when assembling the wing but it is a little after the fact now. I thought it was a little too much trouble to do after building the wing. Thanks.
da Rock
I didn't mention that my plane is a twin so the exhaust is in line with the retracts. I will keep in mind that a Pitts style muffler will cut down on the exhaust on the plane. Thanks.
ChuckW
I could build a box around the retract assembly when assembling the wing but it is a little after the fact now. I thought it was a little too much trouble to do after building the wing. Thanks.
Cut the bend off of them and just use the straight section. Or use a bit of the bend to give the outlet a streamlined look. You'd be using them "backwards" then of course.
Here is a red one used on a red airplane. It's put on "forewards".