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Old 02-07-2013, 11:00 AM
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Can anyone tell me who makes or made this Bi Plane? I am trying to find out where the C.G. is located.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:14 PM
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Its not Aeroworks...could it be a recovered Great Planes?
Old 02-08-2013, 03:32 AM
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Not an aeroworks plane. It has a fiberglass fuse.
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CG is not manufacturer specific, it is airframe specific.

This should work for all Biplanes.

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Old 02-10-2013, 09:51 AM
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Default RE: Unknown Bipe

I know its certainly not a very accurate way to balance a plane and alot of people will probably get mad at it but i usualy always balance a bipe at 1/3 of the top wing chord with the plane upright and it always flies great. Its just a suggestion that works for me. Take it as you will and good luck. Looks like a nice plane.
Old 02-11-2013, 09:37 AM
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This may help you find the CG of each wing, then use the difference between the top and bottom wing. This will give you a starting point for the first flight. Then you can adjust from their for the second flight.

http://www.geistware.com/rcmodeling/cg_calc.htm#cg


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Old 02-11-2013, 03:27 PM
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That sweep is going to give you a more aft CG than what that diagram would calculate.
Old 02-11-2013, 06:21 PM
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Can't be sure from the pictures but it looks like the top wing is swept and the bottom wing straight. LesUyeda's drawing is correct for straight wings and a bit on the conservative side (not a bad thing) at 23% MAC. For two swept wings or one swept and one straight, do the measuring and the balancing at the wing mid-point. So use the stagger and chords at wing mid-point (half way from center to wing tip) for this calculation and then balance at the wing mid point.

Oh, are the wings close to the same span? For wing mid-point, probably split the difference between the top and bottom wingspans. At 23% or even 25% MAC you'll get a conservative (safe!) answer, then trim for flight preferences.

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Old 02-12-2013, 07:33 AM
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"LesUyeda's drawing is correct for straight wings "

MAC is MAC. it is just determined differently between swept and straight wings.

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Old 02-14-2013, 02:41 PM
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It is correct for an airplane that needs its CG at 23% of the MAC, and that is all. Where did the 23% come from? From the wing area, the stab area, the tail arm and the MAC. It will likely be very safe for your plane because most planes can be safely balanced further back than that, but it depends on those four factors. The only trouble with doing it that way is that you may go to some trouble to get the CG that far forward and then find out in flight testing that it is unnecessary. That's why I like to do the calculations. Jim

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