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Old 06-07-2016, 08:13 PM
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I have a new OS 25 FX engine. I have been trying to break it in but runs hot an eventually quits. The plane never breaks into four cycle operation no matter how much I try to rich'n it up. I took out the HS needle and it is all clean. It loosens and tightens with no problem. I replaced all of the fuel lines inside and outside of the tank and tested the new tubing and tank for leaks and found none. I also replaced all brass tubing and verified that fuel is not foaming. I haven't made any adjustments to the low end as the manual states that it is preset to an optimal setting.

This is for a combat plane and I have this exact same setup (fuel system/engine) on an identical combat plane and it runs fine. What else can I do? Please help.

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Is the muffler fitting blocked or small? It really should run rich enough, with no muffler even, if opened 6 or 7 turns. You can check by blowing through the supply line in the needle valve while opening the needle and closing it. Otherwise, I would guess an airleak in the carb base. I had one motor that was too tight on the crank to case that heated up and never richened up or idled. You could put your finger over the tailpipe to increase the pressure to temporarily richen it and maybe blow out a piece of dirt or whatever. It may have snuck in somewhere and missed the cleaning.
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The muffler fitting is standard size. I have this same setup on two other combat planes and they have no problems. I did verify that the muffler fitting isn't blocked.

However I did make another observation. In the segment of tubing that runs between the HS needle valve and the carb there is a steady stream of bubbles. I took apart the entire HS needle assembly, cleaned it with rubbing alcohol and put some removable thread locker on it. I will fire it up here shortly.

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Is the muffler fitting blocked or small? It really should run rich enough, with no muffler even, if opened 6 or 7 turns. You can check by blowing through the supply line in the needle valve while opening the needle and closing it. Otherwise, I would guess an airleak in the carb base. I had one motor that was too tight on the crank to case that heated up and never richened up or idled. You could put your finger over the tailpipe to increase the pressure to temporarily richen it and maybe blow out a piece of dirt or whatever. It may have snuck in somewhere and missed the cleaning.
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There's your problem, it's running way too lean if you see bubbles. I'd replace the fuel line between the needle and carb as well as the o-ring in the needle.
Old 06-10-2016, 08:45 AM
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Check prop balance, but I would take the carb of the new engine and put it on the old and old airframe and see if the problem follows.
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Toss the OS remote needle and buy a remote needle from Dub Jett. I have many OS FX series engines and have had trouble with the remote needle on many of them. I am to the point now that I do not even bother. Dub gets like 25 or 30 bucks for the most trouble free needle assembly there is, and it weighs less than the leaky OS setup.
Old 06-11-2016, 03:28 PM
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It is probably just the nv "o" ring, no big deal to replace. I assume you're using something between a 8x6 to 9x6 prop. Also the factory settings on the carb mean very little other than just getting it started the first time, they both need to be fine tuned when up and running.
Old 06-21-2016, 11:30 AM
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I tore the engine down. Tried everything I could think of an what was suggested here. Still same problem. Last week I boxed the engine up and sent it back to OS for service. Waiting on their findings.

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