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What happened to all the Top Flite Kits at Tower Hobbies?

Old 04-26-2020, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie View Post
And that's a major part of the problem. Corporate America looks at how to make the biggest profit while spending the least amount of money to do so.
What really drives me crazy is what I run into at work. Grown men have been hired to build aircraft and, sadly, they can't think for themselves. I've lost track of all the times I've been asked "So, what are you looking for?" or "So, what do you want me to do next?", considering I tell them to READ THE INSTRUCTION MANUAL and YOUR WORK MUST MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SPECification manuals. It's really sad that I wouldn't trust a majority of them to help me build a plastic model airplane that requires paint and glue as most can't understand the pictures in the instructions or how the paint color locations are indicated. Do we really want people with that kind of mental abilities flying an R/C ANYTHING? You wouldn't dare talk about setting end stops, adjusting servo speeds or expo as those are concepts that are beyond the average person now days. It really worries me that society has gotten so stupid and I can only blame it on "smart phones" and technology as those coming out of school, regardless of it being high school or college, don't know how to think for themselves any more


As to the first part of this post you are 100% correct. When I was doing all the purchasing for a hobby shop both GP and Horizon were operated by people who knew the hobby. At some point that changed and both places started being run like huge corporations. There just isn't enough profit margins for that to happen. GP found out the hard way, unfortunately it appears that Horizon didn't learn the lesson.

Im at a loss as to what the second part of your post has to do with this thread. That being said, I have seen the same thing that you describe. Problem is though that it starts with upper management and works it's way down. HR is hiring guys without them meeting minimum requirements for the job. Then they are not getting the proper amount of training. Then the one thing that I have experienced a time or two, getting stuck with a supervisor that cares more about showing everyone who's the boss then he does about the success of his department. A good supervisor gives his guys the tools required for them to be successful. That could mean some additional training, allowing the employee to take some ownership of his position and allow the department to function as a team. He will also take notice of employees strengths and use them to benifit the team. Point out their successes, allow them to build confidence and they will never let you down.

Old 04-26-2020, 02:48 PM
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The second part, unfortunately, shows why the kits have disappeared. People are getting so dependent on their smart phones and internet that they can't think for themselves and anything they can't find online just can't be done. When you really look at it, the R/C aircraft kits disappearing started about the same time the internet really became part of our lives and smart phones became the must have at all times item a majority of the population depends on for pretty much everything. You want to know something, you go to the internet and that means smart phones for well over 90% of the population. After the "need to know" is over, you forget everything, You want to see an example of this, watch the first episode of season three of the original Star Trek series, "Spock's Brain". It graphically shows where our society is headed if things don't change and people don't start using their brain as more than a short term memory device
Old 04-26-2020, 03:09 PM
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I just got a serious laugh. Horizon didn't buy several of the product lines when they took over Tower and it's parent company. Now, somewhat disgustingly, they are trying to use the coronavirus pandemic to boost sales. I just saw this on YouTube, with the tagline "Are your going Stircrazy" before a video I wanted to watch:

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Old 04-26-2020, 03:51 PM
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Yup, smartphones are the culprit!
I could be busy building toy airplanes instead of getting information and reading stuff posted in here (one not to be confused with the other).
Old 04-26-2020, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie View Post
The second part, unfortunately, shows why the kits have disappeared. People are getting so dependent on their smart phones and internet that they can't think for themselves and anything they can't find online just can't be done. When you really look at it, the R/C aircraft kits disappearing started about the same time the internet really became part of our lives and smart phones became the must have at all times item a majority of the population depends on for pretty much everything. You want to know something, you go to the internet and that means smart phones for well over 90% of the population. After the "need to know" is over, you forget everything, You want to see an example of this, watch the first episode of season three of the original Star Trek series, "Spock's Brain". It graphically shows where our society is headed if things don't change and people don't start using their brain as more than a short term memory device


I guess I can agree to a fair amount of that. I must have seen that episode at least 6 times. I place a large amount of blame on internet sales. Buying something online is just not the same as walking into a hobby shop and fondling an item before buying it. The hobby shops supply a level of enthusiasm that can't be had online. The other thing to consider is that the industry pushed ARFs on us. Think about it, would you like to make 30% on a $100 kit or 30% on a $300 ARF? Add in that on average we have much less recreation time and fathers/husbands are more hands on and more involved with running the house then we were in the '50s and '60s. There are many reasons for the decline in our hobbies popularity, it is past its heyday but it will survive and we will have to adapt to conform to whatever the future brings.
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Originally Posted by airsteve172 View Post
Yup, smartphones are the culprit!
I could be busy building toy airplanes instead of getting information and reading stuff posted in here (one not to be confused with the other).
But better still, you could be doing both. Unfortunately, most don't know how to do that. Most are so busy following Twitter and Facebook that everything else ceases to exist. I have two coworkers that, if it wasn't for people showing up in our work areas, can spend a whole shift on Facebook and "HEAVEN HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!" if I interrupt their checking in with "Facebook Friends"
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Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie View Post
I guess I can agree to a fair amount of that. I must have seen that episode at least 6 times. I place a large amount of blame on internet sales. Buying something online is just not the same as walking into a hobby shop and fondling an item before buying it. The hobby shops supply a level of enthusiasm that can't be had online. The other thing to consider is that the industry pushed ARFs on us. Think about it, would you like to make 30% on a $100 kit or 30% on a $300 ARF? Add in that on average we have much less recreation time and fathers/husbands are more hands on and more involved with running the house then we were in the '50s and '60s. There are many reasons for the decline in our hobbies popularity, it is past its heyday but it will survive and we will have to adapt to conform to whatever the future brings.
WOW!! WE AGREE ON SOMETHING!!!!! Unless I'm wrong, that's the second time that's happened
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You know, I'm not such a bad guy and I don't think you are either. If we both keep an open mind I think we would both be surprised how many things we can agree on.
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Speaking for myself, the only reason I'd be inclined to BUILD a model is because what is offered in the marketplace in the form of ARFs simply doesn't satisfy me aesthetically. I also like scale model cars (not necessarily RC) and happily there are both kits and finished, beautifully made diecast models. If I could find a quality readymade model of a subject that interests me, damned right, I'd buy that instead of building it! At the same time, I will admit that I also enjoy building or at least enjoy the pride of accomplishment.

Airplane models became popular in step with the new technology (at the time) of aviation. The mystique of flight could be captured by the average individual in miniature form. As aviation became more common, models gained an additional mystique as it became possible to fly a model by remote control. At the time, this was absolutely magic to have the control of a flying aircraft at one's fingertips when wirelessly controlling anything was virtually unheard of. As technology developed, what was once magic became as mundane as unlocking a car or opening a garage door.

With the advancement of computers and the internet, is it any wonder that having the world at your fingertips may be more fascinating than flying a model by remote control, let alone going through the trouble of building one?

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