Fiberglassing
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RE: Fiberglassing
I don't. I think thinning resin is a really bad idea. It's a constant argument here at RCU, but the bottom line is that it's not necessary and can cause problems. Why do it?
If you want thin resin, either use finishing resin which is already low viscosity and made for applying fiberglass cloth
or
Put the mixed resing in a pan of warm water for a couple minutes. Warming it also speeds the curing time, so if you have a large area to cover then use very slow-drying epoxy or laminating resin.
Problems with thinning resin:
* Causes it to shrink
* Interferes with chemical cure
* Causes resin to stay rubbery or become brittle
Now everyone can tell me that I'm wrong.
If you want thin resin, either use finishing resin which is already low viscosity and made for applying fiberglass cloth
or
Put the mixed resing in a pan of warm water for a couple minutes. Warming it also speeds the curing time, so if you have a large area to cover then use very slow-drying epoxy or laminating resin.
Problems with thinning resin:
* Causes it to shrink
* Interferes with chemical cure
* Causes resin to stay rubbery or become brittle
Now everyone can tell me that I'm wrong.
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RE: Fiberglassing
That's the great thing about the United States, freedom of speech and opinion.
Although you have valid points, opinions do vary............ I have not experienced any issues when using it to thin epoxy for fuel proofing. With that said, I would NOT thin epoxy for a structural application. I prefer using the Anchor Bond products as they flow much better than the "house" brands or even the Z poxy.
Although you have valid points, opinions do vary............ I have not experienced any issues when using it to thin epoxy for fuel proofing. With that said, I would NOT thin epoxy for a structural application. I prefer using the Anchor Bond products as they flow much better than the "house" brands or even the Z poxy.
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RE: Fiberglassing
Well, a bit off the subject but the most current relevent thread to ask the question,
I am trying a new technique out for fiberglassing, I am building a Combat Models F-16, and the way they do it is to put down the cloth with Zpoxy thined by denatured alcohol at a 60/40 ratio. You use a cheap paint brush and it worked great for the application of the fiberglass (did not have to do any "screening" at all... )
here is where the different part comes: instead of reaplying a very thin layer of epoxy or resin to fill the weave you use Light weight spackle
I bought (by accident) Vinyl spackle which is a lot heavier in the can than the lightweight spackle ( alot heavier)
I am concerned that I have made a mistake that will affect the performance of this plane. But all it is doing is filling the weave and then I will be priming and painting.
Help put my mind at ease.... PLEASE...
OH Yea, you apply it while sanding with 320 and it really comes out cool and smooth and a lot less work than other ways I have done fiberglass.
I have completed all but 20 percent of the fuse with the Vinyl spackle.... should I be truly concerned?
I am trying a new technique out for fiberglassing, I am building a Combat Models F-16, and the way they do it is to put down the cloth with Zpoxy thined by denatured alcohol at a 60/40 ratio. You use a cheap paint brush and it worked great for the application of the fiberglass (did not have to do any "screening" at all... )
here is where the different part comes: instead of reaplying a very thin layer of epoxy or resin to fill the weave you use Light weight spackle
I bought (by accident) Vinyl spackle which is a lot heavier in the can than the lightweight spackle ( alot heavier)
I am concerned that I have made a mistake that will affect the performance of this plane. But all it is doing is filling the weave and then I will be priming and painting.
Help put my mind at ease.... PLEASE...
OH Yea, you apply it while sanding with 320 and it really comes out cool and smooth and a lot less work than other ways I have done fiberglass.
I have completed all but 20 percent of the fuse with the Vinyl spackle.... should I be truly concerned?
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RE: Fiberglassing
You're right about filling the weave. Anything on top of the weave is needless weight. Sand down until you're as close to the cloth as you can get without cutting into it. If you need to do more filling, switch to sandable primer.
Personally, I wouldn't use spackle as a filler, but your plane will be fine.
Personally, I wouldn't use spackle as a filler, but your plane will be fine.
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so you dont think it will add any noticable weight?
I actually think I like it better as a final surface than the lightweight spackle...
I am a bit worried because I had read a thread about the plane where a guy used a second coat of resin and He said he put a lot of paint on and long story short it would not fly...
Thank you for easing my fears...
I actually think I like it better as a final surface than the lightweight spackle...
I am a bit worried because I had read a thread about the plane where a guy used a second coat of resin and He said he put a lot of paint on and long story short it would not fly...
Thank you for easing my fears...
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RE: Fiberglassing
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so you dont think it will add any noticable weight?
I actually think I like it better as a final surface than the lightweight spackle...
I am a bit worried because I had read a thread about the plane where a guy used a second coat of resin and He said he put a lot of paint on and long story short it would not fly...
Thank you for easing my fears...
so you dont think it will add any noticable weight?
I actually think I like it better as a final surface than the lightweight spackle...
I am a bit worried because I had read a thread about the plane where a guy used a second coat of resin and He said he put a lot of paint on and long story short it would not fly...
Thank you for easing my fears...
A second coat of resin is almost always a bad idea. It's better to fill the weave of fiberglass cloth with a light filler - not resin. Resin is good for adhering the cloth and that's all it should be used for.
So yes, your plane will be fine and it will not be over-weight if you use lots of sandpaper and elbow grease.