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Old 01-06-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default Pattern, Sport, Or both?

Was the Ultra Sport ever in a true classification of pattern (based on the Kaos), or was it just a sport plane from the get-go?
Old 01-06-2007, 09:59 PM
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

According to designer Jim Feldman the Ultra Sport was considered
an "advanced sport plane".

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Old 01-07-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

If the Ultra Sport had come out in the early 70's it would have definitely been considered a Pattern Plane. But by the time it hit the market, pattern planes had evolved into a whole new aspect.
Old 01-07-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

by the time it hit the market, pattern planes had evolved into a whole new aspect.

MinnFlyer- could you elaborate a little for me? What has made pattern so different?
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

Pattern now has the turnaround. The planes have gotten bigger slower and more powerful not to mention quieter. And man do they fly nice now.

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Old 01-08-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

Yes, back in the late 60's and early 70's a "Pattern Plane" was whatever you had in your hangar that was stable and aerobatic. 40 to 60 size planes like the "Taurus" and "Orion" made regular apperances.

An Ultra Sport would have held it's own EASILY among that type of plane. In fact, the first time I flew my Ultra Sport, the first thing that popped into my head was, "Damn, I wish I had this thing back when I flew Pattern!".

But, like Dennis said, Pattern planes evolved into planes that were SPECIFICALLY designed to fly the pattern. They got bigger, slower, more stable, more powerful, etc, etc.
Old 01-08-2007, 08:22 PM
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

I'm thinking it would be nice to have a "classic" pattern event.
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

They have them. www.seniorpattern.com
Old 01-08-2007, 11:23 PM
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

I'm thinking we may have to bring it to Minnesota??!!??///[sm=50_50.gif]
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

It seems to be most prevalent in the southeast US, but no reason why it can't gain popularity other places. If you don't compete, nothing is as fun to fly as those old pattern ships or even what were called advanced sport flyers.
Old 01-09-2007, 02:10 AM
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

There is a forum for classic pattern here. Go, see what they have.
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Default RE: Pattern, Sport, Or both?

For what it's worth this year i flew a Ultra Sport Plus with a Magnum 70 four stroke. And placed second with it including winning two rounds. And that was flying in the Advanced Division. There should be no problem whatsoever flying a Ultra sport in the Sportsman class or the intermediate class. I would bet it would win in the sportsman class and depending on the fliers in intermediate it would win in that division also. The speed of the airplane starts to hurt it after intermediate. although 2007 has a new schedule for all classes this year. And the Ultra Sport would probably work out ok in advanced.
I do know they have pattern contests in Wisconsin. Along with St. charles and Hoffman Estates illinois. Maybe even some closer to you maybe.
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